Sad story in nearby Va as football coach fired over bear crawls...

[uvacavs1]

Wow, sad news but not that surprised in today's society. Saw this on 5A board and looked into it a tad.

A long time, dedicated and passionate assistant Stafford football coach who was disciplining players who skipped practice by making them do routine bear crawls. It was hot and they have a relatively new turf field (little experience) some player's hands got blisters so they were allowed to stop when the coach found out.

A player's mom who works for the school (guess what, her son doesn't start on the JV team) made a fuss and they fired the poor man and ruined his reputation. Unreal.

1) What a cowardly act, investigate, defend your employees, make a stand for what is right.

2) Some parents need to get a grip - toughen up, and realize sometimes little Johnny just ain't no good at this sport and Parks and Rec days are over (teach him to deal with adversity). This crap happens to almost every coach in every sport. I've seen parents threaten to sue because Johnny doesn't start and they think he is the best player on the team (when in reality he is one of the worst out there and barely made the squad ha).

3) Why didn't the Head Coach stand up for his assistant? He told him to run the bear crawls in the heat. Maybe he did. If so, why is he still there? Be a man, stand up for your staff, and walk the heck out if the right thing is not done.

4) I thought bear crawls were normal exercises that developed your core for stability, strength, and power.

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[G MASTER BLASTER W]

This is the same type of crybaby BS that H.S Ingo fired from GW kids was punished for doing something he shouldn't have done and when mommy found out about it she complained and they fired a good coach and put a bad image in a lot of peoples head. This crap has to stop when I played which was just a few years ago we took our punishment like men and moved on but what do people expect when everyone gets a trophy now for just showing up.

 

[Chilwar25]

Unfortunately we are all living in a time were you really thought you had friends, but when the chips are down, your so called friends are no were to be found. If the head coach did not stand up for his asst. coaches, I certainly would not want to be an asst. on that staff. The principal to seems like an a hole for letting this situation get to that point of dismissing the coach. He has no stones! Football is not a mommy's boy sport, expect in Stafford!

 

[G MASTER BLASTER W]

Very well said its like I said with our situation at GW we lost a really good coach and now we have an idiot who has no clue to handle the talent level we have. I mean the man ran a QB draw 18 out of the last 20 plays in the first half he will be the down fall of the MAROONS in the playoffs I think I hope not but he has not shown anything but.

 

[GDUBALUM09]

Theres not very many things that were as rough as Coach B fun days at GW. Sled, chutes, hills, stadiums, laps, bear crawls. These kids have it easier than we did and our parents just let us have it. Some people need to let go of the umbilical cord and let them grow and prepare them for what they could face in a college setting. I have went to several camps put on by colleges and they put you through what they do on a daily basis minus the weight program. I believe that is one of the reasons some of the smaller schools are catching up on some of the elite programs around here because some of the parents have a hand in the say so on what they do so their child does not get "hurt". Reference the Ingo story.

 

[G MASTER BLASTER W]

Yep our parents just set back and if we acted like bad a kids we paid for it Coach B didn't hold back on us and it made us so much better. Our line was in crazy shape and no team I don't care who it was could make us tired. We would have teams ready to quit by the end of the 1st half these kids now most not all hate to work for success. They play for a team with tons and tons of tradition like GW and expect what kids from other seasons did to roll over for them. And that's not the case they have to work to make there own place. I mean look at nw last season they came in at 6-0 we destroyed them last Friday they came in at 5-1 with that only loss being a close game against bland. And we absolutely embarrassed them if those kids from nw would work as hard as the kids from GW does in and out of the season and hit the weights like we do then they might give us a game. Anyway the point is these kids think it all should be given to them and that's why the schools who have the talent will stay far ahead of the pack.

 

[CallMeCoach19]

this is different than Ingo, if we have all of the facts. Skipping practice and cheering for another team are not the same offense. Ingo was an ignorant bully (or for those who hate that word he was simply a prick). Hughes was screwed in the deal, but Ingo got what he had coming to him. I was there that day. I saw only one kid, an alumni, stand up and he was told to go on home. That's a bully! As for the current coach, I won't weigh in on that. Looks like the talent is being handled though from the record.

 

[pawfan]

Update

http://www.fredericksburg.com/sport...cle_827679b6-71ba-11e5-9306-77e189c7f7ab.html

 

[Hampton Roads 6]

Who actually fired the Coach. Was it the Head Coach, Principal or School Board Office ?

 

[G MASTER BLASTER W]

I will say the talent is what is winning those games you ask almost any GW fan and they will tell you we don't want him as our coach he blew the talent we had last season. He doesn't know what to do with this group why do you run a QB draw 18 out of the last 20 plays in the 1st half when you have the backs we have and risk hurting Deacon? And I personally know the kid and the family that all of this happened to with Ingo and all I will say is when I played and GDUB09 will say the same and so will 2010 we had it a lot worse than this kid got we would get hit in the face with footballs for saying the other teams name out of place or for taking our helmets off to get water. We had kids who would be made to go home for wearing fc or RR stuff and they didn't even play football. I remember one girl was suspended for a week and wasn't allowed to go to the fc game and she had just transferred to GW from fc that week. It happened all of the time when I was there running stadiums and hills with chains on would've been welcomed we had to deal with a lot worse on a daily basis. Like doing indian runs for hours at a time for letting the other team score football is the life blood of GW always has been and always will be a coach like harner will get eaten alive by the fans.

 

[EssexSoccer]

Wow, sad news but not that surprised in today's society. Saw this on 5A board and looked into it a tad.

A long time, dedicated and passionate assistant Stafford football coach who was disciplining players who skipped practice by making them do routine bear crawls. It was hot and they have a relatively new turf field (little experience) some player's hands got blisters so they were allowed to stop when the coach found out.

A player's mom who works for the school (guess what, her son doesn't start on the JV team) made a fuss and they fired the poor man and ruined his reputation. Unreal.

1) What a cowardly act, investigate, defend your employees, make a stand for what is right.

2) Some parents need to get a grip - toughen up, and realize sometimes little Johnny just ain't no good at this sport and Parks and Rec days are over (teach him to deal with adversity). This crap happens to almost every coach in every sport. I've seen parents threaten to sue because Johnny doesn't start and they think he is the best player on the team (when in reality he is one of the worst out there and barely made the squad ha).

3) Why didn't the Head Coach stand up for his assistant? He told him to run the bear crawls in the heat. Maybe he did. If so, why is he still there? Be a man, stand up for your staff, and walk the heck out if the right thing is not done.

4) I thought bear crawls were normal exercises that developed your core for stability, strength, and power.

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I completely agree with you, Well said!

 

[roons-ever1980_rivals]

I will say the talent is what is winning those games you ask almost any GW fan and they will tell you we don't want him as our coach he blew the talent we had last season. He doesn't know what to do with this group why do you run a QB draw 18 out of the last 20 plays in the 1st half when you have the backs we have and risk hurting Deacon? And I personally know the kid and the family that all of this happened to with Ingo and all I will say is when I played and GDUB09 will say the same and so will 2010 we had it a lot worse than this kid got we would get hit in the face with footballs for saying the other teams name out of place or for taking our helmets off to get water. We had kids who would be made to go home for wearing fc or RR stuff and they didn't even play football. I remember one girl was suspended for a week and wasn't allowed to go to the fc game and she had just transferred to GW from fc that week. It happened all of the time when I was there running stadiums and hills with chains on would've been welcomed we had to deal with a lot worse on a daily basis. Like doing indian runs for hours at a time for letting the other team score football is the life blood of GW always has been and always will be a coach like harner will get eaten alive by the fans.

As for running the QB draw as you say 18 time's the first half. It rained the hole game. The offense that GW runs is a lot of miss direction plays. That means that a lot of people can touch the ball. So just maybe the QB draw was the best play at the time. As far as the coach at GW I myself think he's doing a good job the kids are playing for him not you and think God not for Ingo he got what he deserve. You are right about one thing football is king at GW. I played at GW and love the school. Let the kids play the game and the fans stay in the stands where the belong and let the coaches coach the kids.

 

[G MASTER BLASTER W]

I do agree that the kids are playing for him that was never my thing it is when we play a team who can match our talent its going to come down to which coach can outcoach the other. And I really don't think he can and yes our O is a lot of misdirection but even if we cant hit those plays we have more than enough speed to get the backs out also Hardin and Wells will run over people. But like you said I'm not the coach I'm only here to voice my opinion and watch the kids play the game we all love. And yes Football is King at GW lol

 

[mmqp]

So may I ask, what did Ingo do exactly? I've heard a lot about him on the boards here..some support, some do not. But I've never heard what cost him his job at GW. Also, did he used to be the coach at William Campbell a long time ago?

 

[G MASTER BLASTER W]

He made a kid I wont say who walk around the football field area wearing chains across his chest while carrying 50-pound weights in each hand. The kid showed up to a school event wearing fc stuff he sat on the fc side and was cheering for fc which is a big no no at GW always has been. It was a huge deal when I played like I said above we had a girl transfer from fc the week of the fc game she had on fc stuff and was told she was suspended for a week and was banned from the game. And yes H.S did coach WC before coming to GW.

 

[G MASTER BLASTER W]

But see one bit a lot of people don't seem to know he was not the only coach in on this the whole staff knew what was going on and 1 coach even came up with the idea.

 

[mmqp]

He made a kid I wont say who walk around the football field area wearing chains across his chest while carrying 50-pound weights in each hand. The kid showed up to a school event wearing fc stuff he sat on the fc side and was cheering for fc which is a big no no at GW always has been. It was a huge deal when I played like I said above we had a girl transfer from fc the week of the fc game she had on fc stuff and was told she was suspended for a week and was banned from the game. And yes H.S did coach WC before coming to GW.

Geez, kid sounded like a cancer to me. Should have been booted off the team. But that probably would have landed the coach in trouble as well. As pathetic as it sounds, it was a lose-lose situation for the coach.

Is H.S. Ingo coaching anywhere now?

 

[G MASTER BLASTER W]

Nope still goes to most of the GW games and supports the team. And the kids excuse was he came from fc so wanted to support them but its like I said we don't take to well to that you came to GW for a reason for a better chance to win so pick its either play football and support all GW sports or go back to fc.

 

[mmqp]

Nope still goes to most of the GW games and supports the team. And the kids excuse was he came from fc so wanted to support them but its like I said we don't take to well to that you came to GW for a reason for a better chance to win so pick its either play football and support all GW sports or go back to fc.

Yep, not a good enough excuse for me. Sounds like the kid was a little smart-a** who wanted some attention and ended up getting what he deserved. Let me guess, Mommy cried and the school, fearing a lawsuit, had to part ways with him. Pathetic.

 

[G MASTER BLASTER W]

That's exactly what happened like I said I know the family personally she got mad because he was made and example of and punished for what he did. Like I said I played 05,06,07,08 and stuff like that and FAR worse happened on a daily basis I remember a kid my sophomore year broke his arm badly he was moved off to the side still laying on the ground until we finished with our sled workout witch was a good 30mins later. He was also told to quit crying cause he was being to loud and we couldn't hear the coach. We had to do what was called puke runs where we ran until the whole 45-50 man team puked or until practice was over. So I mean this kid didn't have it nearly as bad as it could've been and would've been we would've turned on that kid like a pack of dogs he would've quit or been made to quit.

 

[Hampton Roads 6]

That individual has no business coaching .

 

[hokie0015]

I consider myself old school but some of these things are a bit ridiculous.

Suspended from school for wearing an opposing teams shirt? That's pathetic. I wouldn't support it but school is school- an education that these kids will value. Suspending a kid and declining them that is beyond stupid

Making a kid wait 30 minutes with a broke arm? That statement in and of itself is the absolute worst indictment of this mans character yet.

The actual offense, that got him fired I don't have much of a problem with. But some of these other things make it sound like he was a whole lot worse. If this is true he indeed has no business coaching.

 

[CallMeCoach19]

The argument that, "I should be allowed to be a jerk, because some other guy wass a jerk too" is a bit flawed. And suspending a kid for an opposing teams shirt sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen and Wythe County Schools are smarter than that.

 

[G MASTER BLASTER W]

I'm not saying anyone has the right to be a jerk but most of the parents around here let the coaches do what they need to do in order to weed out the kids that can or will hurt the team. And as far as the girl with the fc stuff she was suspended a week for being a disruption to the other students and the football players. She came in that Tuesday I think it was and had on a fc shirt black and gold face paint of the # of one of there players and a gold ribbon one side of her hair and a black one on the other. She was told to take it all off and out of her hair she got mad and asked why cant I wear this if the other girls can wear GW stuff and she was told she was at GW not fc that's why.She started to argue with the person who told her to take it off and was told she was suspended for a week. At GW football comes first always has always will.

 

[G MASTER BLASTER W]

And yes I do agree now that is a lawsuit but then it would've been laughed off as a mad student trying to cause problems.

 

[G MASTER BLASTER W]

I consider myself old school but some of these things are a bit ridiculous.

Suspended from school for wearing an opposing teams shirt? That's pathetic. I wouldn't support it but school is school- an education that these kids will value. Suspending a kid and declining them that is beyond stupid

Making a kid wait 30 minutes with a broke arm? That statement in and of itself is the absolute worst indictment of this mans character yet.

The actual offense, that got him fired I don't have much of a problem with. But some of these other things make it sound like he was a whole lot worse. If this is true he indeed has no business coaching.

None of the things I'm talking about happened during H.S Ingo's time I played before he came I'm saying what he did was nothing compared to things that my group dealt with or had to do. And yes it was bad for the kid with the broken arm to have to wait that's how it was they taught us that injuries are going to happen that we needed to be men enough to play through them. Not saying it was right but that's what practice was for us on a daily basis.