Same Fans Calling for Stoops Job Said Towles Was NFL QB

[UKWinsAgainYep]

Just remember when you read many of these posters saying Stoops should be fired now, blah blah.

They are the same fans before the season started that said Towles would probably leave UK "early" and go to the NFL.

Now, look at where Towles is.....You know most of these posters are absolutely clueless about football.

90% of them bashed me and a few others when I said Towles is not a NFL QB because he doesn't have what it takes between his ears. They all said he was a "NFL prototype" and would be going to the NFL.

You were DEAD WRONG just like you're DEAD WRONG about Stoops.

I recommend being quiet and learning more about football before you start spouting off that Stoops should be fired. A bunch of clueless whiners IMO.

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

Sheeit I never said towles was a quality qb but I just started posting here can't speak for anyone else. But the people to ever say they think towles is a quality qb let alone NFL qb are some silly willys I can tell ya that much. And as far as stoops goes I think he's in over his head but he's got one more year to prove it then he gets the axe. And I think recruits might realize that too but hopefully we have enough for the next staff to do something with. Mark stoops has proven to be a pretty low quality head coach. Putting it nicely. Besides recruiting he's really really bad. Like the worst. It's inexcusable. He never does anything right in a game. His in game coaching is as bad or worse than jokers just with way better players. The decision to hire in entire inexperienced staff. No one knows what they're doing!

 

[dathomp]

Just remember when you read many of these posters saying Stoops should be fired now, blah blah.

They are the same fans before the season started that said Towles would probably leave UK "early" and go to the NFL.

Now, look at where Towles is.....You know most of these posters are absolutely clueless about football.

90% of them bashed me and a few others when I said Towles is not a NFL QB because he doesn't have what it takes between his ears. They all said he was a "NFL prototype" and would be going to the NFL.

You were DEAD WRONG just like you're DEAD WRONG about Stoops.

I recommend being quiet and learning more about football before you start spouting off that Stoops should be fired. A bunch of clueless whiners IMO.

Finally!! Someone with a logical post! Thank you! Agree totally

 

[supernova0221]

Yep

 

[Brock28]

I don't think Stoops should be fired, but I do think Towles is an NFL QB.

 

[Free_Salato_Blue]

So was Ryan Leaf and Akili Smith. If Towles can't make reads at this level how will he improve against NFL defenses?

There was plenty of threads about Towles being better than Woodson and the next best QB in UK history since Couch.
Anyone that dare to criticize his play was called a troll from Louisville and should be banned.
Or the quote that people just hate PT and "Would rather lose with Barker than win with Towles"

I know one thing the QB controversy and now terrible losing skid has divided a fan base.

 

[Rawrrr]

Yeah and the fans saying give Stoops 15-22 more years to turn it around are the same fans who wanted to give Curry several more years and Joker a lifetime contract. Same. Exact. People. BTW this is exactly correct IMO "Towles is not a NFL QB because he doesn't have what it takes between his ears."

 

[Cats_2010]

OP you have no idea if anyone is wrong about stoops or not. He has not shown one positive thing from the sidelines to indicate he is even in the mediocre coaching ranks at the present. In fact he sucks and I have the game film to prove it. What do you have to prove how great he is? I am not ready to fire him, but I am to the point it is time for him show me something. If his circus act returns next year with no signs of improvement then UK will most certainly have to cut their losses and move on. If they don't they will risk losing the fan base again and that can't happen.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Nope, not me.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Most, if not all, of the "fans" calling for Stoops head are nothing more than air raid fans that rolled back around when Neal Brown was hired. Theyre not pissed because we're losing. Theyre pissed because we're not scoring points, which means its not fun to watch. Theyre easy to spot because theyre all clamoring for Leach.

Its no coincidence theyre all coming out of the woodwork now that Stoops is struggling and Leach isnt losing to D2 schools this year.

If your support of this program depends on how fun it is or many points they score on offense, and not wins - please start cheering for another team. Your negativity is part of the problem.

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

Most, if not all, of the "fans" calling for Stoops head are nothing more than air raid fans that rolled back around when Neal Brown was hired. Theyre not pissed because we're losing. Theyre pissed because we're not scoring points, which means its not fun to watch. Theyre easy to spot because theyre all clamoring for Leach.

Its no coincidence theyre all coming out of the woodwork now that Stoops is struggling and Leach isnt losing to D2 schools this year.

If your support of this program depends on how fun it is or many points they score on offense, and not wins - please start cheering for another team. Your negativity is part of the problem.

Stoops coaching is by far most of the problem. Whether you want to believe it or not that's your choice. But I think stoops coaching woes and his ineptness is waaayyyyyy more of the problem than the fans clamoring for leach. Because people lost faith in stoops makes them not 'fans'? That confuses me because what has stoops proven again? And btw I'm not clamoring for leach. And I still believe stoops is about as bad of an in game coach the game possibly has to offer. He's really bad. Just because we don't think he's good. Doesn't make us not fans. It makes us realist. Most of us are just calling it how we see it. Some people might really have an agenda out for him. But most of us are just calling it how we see it.

 

[CatsFanGG24]

I don't think Stoops should be fired, but I do think Towles is an NFL QB.

[laughing]

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

Just remember when you read many of these posters saying Stoops should be fired now, blah blah.

They are the same fans before the season started that said Towles would probably leave UK "early" and go to the NFL.

Now, look at where Towles is.....You know most of these posters are absolutely clueless about football.

90% of them bashed me and a few others when I said Towles is not a NFL QB because he doesn't have what it takes between his ears. They all said he was a "NFL prototype" and would be going to the NFL.

You were DEAD WRONG just like you're DEAD WRONG about Stoops.

I recommend being quiet and learning more about football before you start spouting off that Stoops should be fired. A bunch of clueless whiners IMO.

Stoops is the clueless whiner with new and improved excuses every week. You can't even try to prove that he's a good coach because there's no evidence to support such claims.

 

[NoDef]

Most, if not all, of the "fans" calling for Stoops head are nothing more than air raid fans that rolled back around when Neal Brown was hired. Theyre not pissed because we're losing. Theyre pissed because we're not scoring points, which means its not fun to watch. Theyre easy to spot because theyre all clamoring for Leach.

Its no coincidence theyre all coming out of the woodwork now that Stoops is struggling and Leach isnt losing to D2 schools this year.

If your support of this program depends on how fun it is or many points they score on offense, and not wins - please start cheering for another team. Your negativity is part of the problem.

I honestly dont give a crap how we win as long as we do. It's comical to think that anyone on here would be complaining about a 9 win team regardless of how it happens. I personally don't think we will ever be able to line up and run it off tackle all day in the SEC, but if that wins I'm okay with it.

I do think Leach is one of the best in the game regardless of how he gets it done. I would also love to have someone like Harbaugh up here too. These guys win everywhere and if we ever have a chance to get a coach that does that I think we could win here. The jury is still out on Stoops.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Just remember when you read many of these posters saying Stoops should be fired now, blah blah.

They are the same fans before the season started that said Towles would probably leave UK "early" and go to the NFL.

Now, look at where Towles is.....You know most of these posters are absolutely clueless about football.

90% of them bashed me and a few others when I said Towles is not a NFL QB because he doesn't have what it takes between his ears. They all said he was a "NFL prototype" and would be going to the NFL.

You were DEAD WRONG just like you're DEAD WRONG about Stoops.

I recommend being quiet and learning more about football before you start spouting off that Stoops should be fired. A bunch of clueless whiners IMO.

Towles has bigtime NFL qb skills, he is a big strong guy, plenty mobile enough, big arm. I thought he would improve during the off season, and the first couple of drives in the opener it sure looked like he had. But he is inconsistent and he isn't reading defenses like he should as a 2nd year starter. But to be fair to him, he hasn't had any consistency in his coaching either, 2 years starting, 2 different OCs, 2 different offenses to learn each with their unique reads. Don't know if he will ever get a shot at the NFL as a qb, but if someone takes the chance and can get his footwork worked out and teach him to read defenses he could be a good NFL qb, physically he has it all.

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

I honestly dont give a crap how we win as long as we do. It's comical to think that anyone on here would be complaining about a 9 win team regardless of how it happens. I personally don't think we will ever be able to line up and run it off tackle all day in the SEC, but if that wins I'm okay with it.

I do think Leach is one of the best in the game regardless of how he gets it done. I would also love to have someone like Harbaugh up here too. These guys win everywhere and if we ever have a chance to get a coach that does that I think we could win here. The jury is still out on Stoops.

The jury is closed on stoops because he thinks we'll be able to run it up the middle with no misdirection or anything in the SEC. It simply does not work he refuses to adjust to his personnel by running a style that best fits his players he tries to force them to run a style that they're simply not fit for. We're not gonna line up, snap the ball, and run it up the middle all over these SEC teams. Yet that's his philosophy every game for some reason. He refuses to adjust. Kinda like tubby in bball he tried to make rondo a half court guard when he was best in transition. Tubby refused to adjust to the style that best fit his personal and it did him in. It was his way or the highway (granted tubby was a million times better bball coach than stoops is an fb coach, tubby was at least successful. I don't think stoops has a snowballs chance in hell to be successful with the in game coaching I've witnessed this season. And the fact he's content with not having an ST coach is truly pathetic to say the least)

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

Towles has bigtime NFL qb skills, he is a big strong guy, plenty mobile enough, big arm. I thought he would improve during the off season, and the first couple of drives in the opener it sure looked like he had. But he is inconsistent and he isn't reading defenses like he should as a 2nd year starter. But to be fair to him, he hasn't had any consistency in his coaching either, 2 years starting, 2 different OCs, 2 different offenses to learn each with their unique reads. Don't know if he will ever get a shot at the NFL as a qb, but if someone takes the chance and can get his footwork worked out and teach him to read defenses he could be a good NFL qb, physically he has it all.

Accuracy, mentality, and decision making. Never seen a qb stare down one option and if option number one isn't open then the play is a bust so much in my entire life. He locks in in one receiver every single play no matter what and doesn't dare look at any other options. its truely an astonishing site to see. 3 things I've seen enough of with him to know he will become a professional in something other than sports. He will never get a shot with an NFL squad not a chance there are certain traits that you need out of the qb position that qbs either have or they don't have, in order to be successful. And he just doesn't have those traits that make a successful qb.

 

[RackOps]

Yeah and the fans saying give Stoops 15-22 more years to turn it around are the same fans who wanted to give Curry several more years and Joker a lifetime contract. Same. Exact. People.

Who is calling for 15 more years of Stoops?

Most of those who don't want him fired now are saying they are on board for one more season....there are a few people who are saying two more years, but most of them are in that boat because of Stoops's ridiculous buyout.

 

[Rawrrr]

Who is calling for 15 more years of Stoops?

Most of those who don't want him fired now are saying they are on board for one more season....there are a few people who are saying two more years, but most of them are in that boat because of Stoops's ridiculous buyout.

Well I was being facetious. But yes he did manage to get a ridiculous buyout clause that's going to save his bacon for a few more years.

 

[BBBLazing]

OP, are they truly the same fans? What are the names of the people that both said Towles is NFL quality and Stoops should be fired? Or are you just saying that fans are fickle?

 

[Kats23]

The buyout keeps him here at least thru next year. I don't think Stoops is the guy and I thought Towles would never be an NFL QB.

 

[TBCat]

Just remember when you read many of these posters saying Stoops should be fired now, blah blah.

They are the same fans before the season started that said Towles would probably leave UK "early" and go to the NFL.

Now, look at where Towles is.....You know most of these posters are absolutely clueless about football.

90% of them bashed me and a few others when I said Towles is not a NFL QB because he doesn't have what it takes between his ears. They all said he was a "NFL prototype" and would be going to the NFL.

You were DEAD WRONG just like you're DEAD WRONG about Stoops.

I recommend being quiet and learning more about football before you start spouting off that Stoops should be fired. A bunch of clueless whiners IMO.

How do you know they are the same fans? Do you have a list of quotes?

And nothing that has happened so far proves anyone wrong. Towles has a rare physical skill set. He absolutely can still be an NFL QB. Not that it would relate to Stoops firing in any way.

 

[Glenn Fohr]

Towles still could end up on a roster. Look at the league and look at guys who have a mediocre or hardly a career at as a whole. But, like a guy said in an earlier post said, good coaching may straighten him out. Who knows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[NavyCat88]

Is Towles "uncoachable" or "uncoached?" Either way it gets back CMS who prepared him and sent him out as the starter every game this season.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Who is calling for 15 more years of Stoops?

Most of those who don't want him fired now are saying they are on board for one more season....there are a few people who are saying two more years, but most of them are in that boat because of Stoops's ridiculous buyout.

He won't be fired after next season either. UK owes him eighteen million dollars. Just say it...eighteen million dollars. EIGHTEEN million dollars. Eighteen MILLION dollars. Eighteen million DOLLARS. EIGHTEEN MILLION DOLLARS!

 

[mtn cat1]

Sheeit I never said towles was a quality qb but I just started posting here can't speak for anyone else. But the people to ever say they think towles is a quality qb let alone NFL qb are some silly willys I can tell ya that much. And as far as stoops goes I think he's in over his head but he's got one more year to prove it then he gets the axe. And I think recruits might realize that too but hopefully we have enough for the next staff to do something with. Mark stoops has proven to be a pretty low quality head coach. Putting it nicely. Besides recruiting he's really really bad. Like the worst. It's inexcusable. He never does anything right in a game. His in game coaching is as bad or worse than jokers just with way better players. The decision to hire in entire inexperienced staff. No one knows what they're doing!

I have a lot of empathy for Patrick. I wasn't one that forcast him to be an NFL QB, however I was one of his biggest fans at the beginning of the season, but my faith and trust in him has steadily diminshed over the course of the season. He has many of the physical attributes that you would want for that position! His accuracy, decision making, and getting his throws off in a timely manner have not progressed over his tenure at UK.

I posted in another thread that I thought Pat had many fine qualities and demonstrated his loyalty to the team and FB Program. Unlike some I don't think that Pat will abandon ship and transfer to another university. I believe he has more class than that!!!!

 

[UKErik]

For anyone that thought Patrick Towles would be a professional quarterback, don't worry about it. The San Diego Chargers thought the same thing about Ryan Leaf (hahahahaha). If they can get it wrong, so can you!!!

GBB!!!

 

[theoledog]

He won't be fired after next season either. UK owes him eighteen million dollars. Just say it...eighteen million dollars. EIGHTEEN million dollars. Eighteen MILLION dollars. Eighteen million DOLLARS. EIGHTEEN MILLION DOLLARS!

You are 100% correct...and that is only one of the reasons he won't be fired...
Fans need to keep off the coaches .... Try something different .... Get in a frenzy to fire someone else ... Oh, maybe an AD?
Be a good place to start

 

[shutzhund]

OP you have no idea if anyone is wrong about stoops or not. He has not shown one positive thing from the sidelines to indicate he is even in the mediocre coaching ranks at the present. In fact he sucks and I have the game film to prove it. What do you have to prove how great he is? I am not ready to fire him, but I am to the point it is time for him show me something. If his circus act returns next year with no signs of improvement then UK will most certainly have to cut their losses and move on. If they don't they will risk losing the fan base again and that can't happen.

Should we also ignore his results in recruiting. I'm on the side that it's the players who win games and not whoever is on the sidelines. Football strategy is not physics. You beat the guy across from you and every thing is probably going to be alright.

Does anyone think that when Bama plays UK that strategy is what gets Bama the win or that play calling would get UK the upset? The ones who do are making a simple game way too complex.

 

[Cats_2010]

Should we also ignore his results in recruiting. I'm on the side that it's the players who win games and not whoever is on the sidelines. Football strategy is not physics. You beat the guy across from you and every thing is probably going to be alright.

Does anyone think that when Bama plays UK that strategy is what gets Bama the win or that play calling would get UK the upset? The ones who do are making a simple game way too complex.

A Great coach will win with lesser talented players more times than a bad coach will win with talented players. Ever heard the phrase, the speed of the leader is the speed of the team. Without strong coaching you don't have a strong team. Our talent is way better than our coaching at the present and its not even close and you can see the results we are getting.

 

[zannmann]

I was on the Stoops bandwagon, but know I am leaning the other way. The reason I am falling off the wagon because of all the coaching errors. I know we don't have as much talent as some of the teams we are playing, but that is no reason not to play fundamental football.

 

[BoulderCat_rivals187983]

Nothing brings fans together like winning, and nothing creates dissension more than losing. I certainly never saw Towles in the NFL just because of his physical gifts, but I did think he would play much better this year than he has. He's not the only reason we're losing though, there's plenty of blame to go around for those who want to play the blame game. Still, if he's having problems running a SEC team how they heck is he going to make it in the NFL where the game requires a whole lot more than just the physical skills. And I'm certainly not ready to talk about firing Stoops. It's been a disappointing year for sure. I only predicted 6 wins, but I hoped and really thought we could win more. If this team can rally itself and win it's last two games that would certainly help, especially beating UL which should be possible. So I guess until the clock expires and we're behind I'll keep hoping that's what they do.

 

[UKWinsAgainYep]

Towles has bigtime NFL qb skills, he is a big strong guy, plenty mobile enough, big arm. I thought he would improve during the off season, and the first couple of drives in the opener it sure looked like he had. But he is inconsistent and he isn't reading defenses like he should as a 2nd year starter. But to be fair to him, he hasn't had any consistency in his coaching either, 2 years starting, 2 different OCs, 2 different offenses to learn each with their unique reads. Don't know if he will ever get a shot at the NFL as a qb, but if someone takes the chance and can get his footwork worked out and teach him to read defenses he could be a good NFL qb, physically he has it all.

"he's tall" "he looks good" "he has a strong arm" "runs well" blah blah blah.....

Whatever happened to brains being valued in sports? Does it EVER matter to some of you what is between the ears? I'd rather have a Doug Flutie who is 5'10" who can read defenses, makes smart plays, knows how to win, etc. than a good looking tall, strong armed QB who doesn't have a freakin' clue.
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make your point without the personal attack please/ Deeeefense

 

[RealCat41]

"he's tall" "he looks good" "he has a strong arm" "runs well" blah blah blah.....

Whatever happened to brains being valued in sports? Does it EVER matter to some of you what is between the ears? I'd rather have a Doug Flutie who is 5'10" who can read defenses, makes smart plays, knows how to win, etc. than a good looking tall, strong armed QB who doesn't have a freakin' clue.
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make your point without the personal attack please/ Deeeefense

For some reason you have a major problem with this kid. Why don't you simply meet him after the next game and share your thoughts with him.

 

[OldSmoky]

sorry but towles is no nfl qb by any means....name me 1 nfl qb who had more interceptions than td's in their college career then i'll retrack my statement....other wise. this is the truth and ther is no argument

 

[jc2010]

Most, if not all, of the "fans" calling for Stoops head are nothing more than air raid fans that rolled back around when Neal Brown was hired. Theyre not pissed because we're losing. Theyre pissed because we're not scoring points, which means its not fun to watch. Theyre easy to spot because theyre all clamoring for Leach.

Its no coincidence theyre all coming out of the woodwork now that Stoops is struggling and Leach isnt losing to D2 schools this year.

If your support of this program depends on how fun it is or many points they score on offense, and not wins - please start cheering for another team. Your negativity is part of the problem.

How dare UK fans want the games to be entertaining

 

[jc2010]

You are 100% correct...and that is only one of the reasons he won't be fired...
Fans need to keep off the coaches .... Try something different .... Get in a frenzy to fire someone else ... Oh, maybe an AD?
Be a good place to start

It would be really great to get rid of the AD first, do we really want Barney to hire another FB coach?

 

[Gabewcat]

Mods: Is there any need for another bashing Towles thread. These so called fans make me sick. Patrick Towles will thrive under another coach and system starting with receivers that can catch the ball consistently and a reliable offensive line that has been under coached under Scharlman.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Mods: Is there any need for another bashing Towles thread. These so called fans make me sick. Patrick Towles will thrive under another coach and system starting with receivers that can catch the ball consistently and a reliable offensive line that has been under coached under Scharlman.

LOL. Keep dreaming man.

 

[merrimanm]

Should we also ignore his results in recruiting. I'm on the side that it's the players who win games and not whoever is on the sidelines. Football strategy is not physics. You beat the guy across from you and every thing is probably going to be alright.

Does anyone think that when Bama plays UK that strategy is what gets Bama the win or that play calling would get UK the upset? The ones who do are making a simple game way too complex.

Yeah, coaches get too much credit and too much blame.