Same Fans Calling for Stoops Job Said Towles Was NFL QB

[RealCat41]

Mods: Is there any need for another bashing Towles thread. These so called fans make me sick. Patrick Towles will thrive under another coach and system starting with receivers that can catch the ball consistently and a reliable offensive line that has been under coached under Scharlman.

Gabe your post is admirable, but you gotta remember these are people using fictitious names. For a lot of these folks this the first time in their lives they've been able to share their opinions without the fear of being smacked, mocked, laughed at, or even worse, ignored.

Its akin to playing the Madden game. You're playing the game and ya kinda caught up in it and sometimes you gotta tell yourself, "Damn, I'm really not Adrian Peterson."

It's the same thing on here. Some of these guys I'm sure are fantasizing that they're Dick Gabriel or Larry Glover and they just get a little caught up in themselves. Unfortunately, most aren't snapping out of it.

 

[RealCat41]

sorry but towles is no nfl qb by any means....name me 1 nfl qb who had more interceptions than td's in their college career then i'll retrack my statement....other wise. this is the truth and ther is no argument

You should be studying for your 4th grader grammar quiz tomorrow.

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

Mods: Is there any need for another bashing Towles thread. These so called fans make me sick. Patrick Towles will thrive under another coach and system starting with receivers that can catch the ball consistently and a reliable offensive line that has been under coached under Scharlman.

I really don't understand how some still argue that towles is a good qb. Quite hilarious!

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

Should we also ignore his results in recruiting. I'm on the side that it's the players who win games and not whoever is on the sidelines. Football strategy is not physics. You beat the guy across from you and every thing is probably going to be alright.

Does anyone think that when Bama plays UK that strategy is what gets Bama the win or that play calling would get UK the upset? The ones who do are making a simple game way too complex.

Did he not say for us to expect a much improved product on the field because for ONCE he's comfortable with the talent he has this year? Yup coaching doesn't matter as long as you get the recruits right? This isn't basketball. No sports require more team work than football. You're ignorant to believe otherwise. Yea coaching doesn't matter as long as you recruit well. Signed every southern cal football coach since Petey. And signed will muschamp, guz Malzahn, Charlie strong and every Tennessee coach the last decade. Like your post can't be serious right?

 

[Kooky Kats_anon]

I don't think Stoops should be fired, but I do think Towles is an NFL QB.

This staff stinks. Talent is not improving across the board.

Towles has all the tools but no support.

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

this guy pretty much said Alabama wouldn't need a coach to win the title almost yearly as long as they had the same recruits. Is that a joke or are you being serious? Cuz if so you couldn't sound more ignorant to act like coaching doesn't matter in football.

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

This staff stinks. Talent is not improving across the board.

Towles has all the tools but no support.

He has all the physical tools with zero ability between the ears. The man locks in on one receiver every play. And if that receiver doesn't get open then it's play over next down.

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

Should we also ignore his results in recruiting. I'm on the side that it's the players who win games and not whoever is on the sidelines. Football strategy is not physics. You beat the guy across from you and every thing is probably going to be alright.

Does anyone think that when Bama plays UK that strategy is what gets Bama the win or that play calling would get UK the upset? The ones who do are making a simple game way too complex.

Yup you're right our special teams issues this year is all because of talent. We don't need a special teams coach we just need better recruits! I'm sure that will fix our special teams problem because I mean paying for a special teams coach is just a waste of money right?

 

[Kooky Kats_anon]

He has all the physical tools with zero ability between the ears. The man locks in on one receiver every play. And if that receiver doesn't get open then it's play over next down.

yeah and when the receiver drops said pass, then a mandatory HB dive for no gain every series Towles was 3rd and forever with a **** o-line most of the games...

 

[Kooky Kats_anon]

If it's SO elementary that Towles was the epicenter of all things that offensively failed, let's please report back when Barker and the world-beaters throttle UofL.

You people are idiots.

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

yeah and when the receiver drops said pass, then a mandatory HB dive for no gain every series Towles was 3rd and forever with a **** o-line most of the games...

Um. Would you like to compare towles and barkers stats at the time during the vandy game that they decided to replace barker? Why could barker do it and towles can't if no one can succeed in this offense? Very confusing to me why barker didn't have an issue moving the ball with the same team towles is dealing with. You're right he's a solid qb! Says no logical man ever. He consistently throws bad throws behind the receivers, way over their heads, or way short. Can you really blame the receivers for dropping passes they're probably surprised the ball even got to them everytime it does manage to make it to the receiver. They seriously just look like that they don't expect the pass to get there so they barely try. Can't blame them either because he hardly throws a ball that makes it to the receivers. Yes we have more problems than towles on the team. But to trash the team and not place any blame on towles and to blame everyone but towles for towles poor play is pathetic. He deserves as much or more blame than anyone else on the team. You're right there's other issues. But he's the biggest issue no doubt besides coaching no doubt.

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

If it's SO elementary that Towles was the epicenter of all things that offensively failed, let's please report back when Barker and the world-beaters throttle UofL.

You people are idiots.

You're worse than the people who consistently trash towles. You trash everyone but towles and blame everyone else for towles poor play. When his performance is downright putrid. That's just pathetic man. When we beat Charlotte WITHOUT needing OT to beat them. What are you going to say then?

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

Btw during the vandy game. Towles had way more than enough time to throw. The offensive line actually stepped up that game and no one wants to give them credit when they deserve a lil bit of credit for once. Yet he still had an atrocious game with time to throw.

 

[BBBLazing]

Mods: Is there any need for another bashing Towles thread. These so called fans make me sick. Patrick Towles will thrive under another coach and system starting with receivers that can catch the ball consistently and a reliable offensive line that has been under coached under Scharlman.

Come on tattle tale.

 

[Kooky Kats_anon]

You're worse than the people who consistently trash towles. You trash everyone but towles and blame everyone else for towles poor play. When his performance is downright putrid. That's just pathetic man. When we beat Charlotte WITHOUT needing OT to beat them. What are you going to say then?

Seriously- Charlotte?

I'll eat crow if Barker posts 28+ on UofL.

Equally the rest of you fools do the same when he's winging picks all over the place against a better than average defense.

To single out a QB for losses when the staff had a ST miscue in every goddamn game is absolutely ignorant.

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

Seriously- Charlotte?

I'll eat crow if Barker posts 28+ on UofL.

Equally the rest of you fools do the same when he's winging picks all over the place against a better than average defense.

Yes Charlotte. Towles needed overtime to beat EKU. Charlotte is equally as bad. So when barker doesn't need overtime to beat Charlotte like towles needed against EKfreakingU. That's when you need to eat crow sir. Because towles couldn't even throw on a d2 defense and you're over here singing his praise like he hasn't thrown way more interceptions that touchdowns.

 

[Kooky Kats_anon]

If you WATCHED the EKU game you'd realize that our SEC O-line couldn't block or scheme against ONE defensive end who blew up EVERY pass play.

Once again- ignorant.

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

If you WATCHED the EKU game you'd realize that our SEC O-line couldn't block or scheme against ONE defensive end who blew up EVERY pass play.

Once again- ignorant.

You're making excuses for why towles couldn't throw against a D2 team? And you're calling me ignorant? Are you towles father or something? Well what happens when barker actually does throw the ball well against a team that's basically D2? What's the excuse for towles then?

 

[Kooky Kats_anon]

Barker threw the ugliest pick 6 into triple coverage... That's why he was benched. Do you watch the games?

The bomb he threw to Badet was under thrown but the coverage was so bad, Badet settled under it with time.

Barker's best throw was to Timmons, who ironically dropped his past 5 Towles passes that hits him on the hands.

I have no dog in the fight, but I tell you this...the staff, the receivers, the playcalling and missed blitz pickups destroyed this season... Not Towles.

 

[Kooky Kats_anon]

You're making excuses for why towles couldn't throw against a D2 team? And you're calling me ignorant? Are you towles father or something? Well what happens when barker actually does throw the ball well against a team that's basically D2? What's the excuse for towles then?

If the excuse is getting continually pummeled by an unblocked Defensive End, call me guilty.

 

[Kooky Kats_anon]

And yes, I'm calling you ignorant. Perfect word.

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

Barker threw the ugliest pick 6 into triple coverage... That's why he was benched. Do you watch the games?

The bomb he threw to Badet was under thrown but the coverage was so bad, Badet settled under it with time.

Barker's best throw was to Timmons, who ironically dropped his past 5 Towles passes that hits him on the hands.

I have no dog in the fight, but I tell you this...the staff, the receivers, the playcalling and missed blitz pickups destroyed this season... Not Towles.

I disagree I think towles inability to make a quick decision and the way he only looks at one receiver everyplay and the coaches are the biggest reason the season is tanked. Ok you mention barkers pick six. But towles also threw a pick six on an under thrown fade route in the back corner. Barker was 5-8 60 yards 1 td 1 int. and towles was 5-17 22 yards 0 td and 1 int at the time they decided to replace towles. And barker was taken out 2 series after the pick six. Not directly after. Do you even watch the games? Did you not here the announcers giving stoops hell for replacing barker for towles? Those are unbiased opinions from people who don't care about UK. And they also saw that barker was wayyyy more effective than towles. And they saw the same thing everyone else saw. QUICK decisions, and ability out of barker. They didn't see that out of towles though believe it or not. You mention barkers pick six but you don't mention towles pick six on a throw just as bad as barkers? You're being serious right now aren't you too? Jesus man.

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

If the excuse is getting continually pummeled by an unblocked Defensive End, call me guilty.

Well when barker plays. And when he decides to make quick decisions to avoid those hits. Then what's your argument going to be? Towles wouldn't get hit so much if he didn't hold on to the ball way too long every single play.

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

It's hilarious. When the coaches put towles back in the announcers wouldn't stop talking about it for like 5 minutes straight about how much the decision makes zero sense with how towles was playing in comparison to barker. they sounded pissed that barker wasn't in and they're not even UK fans lol.. He came into the game and fell back into his normal suckish ways as usual throwing the ball into the ground and behind the receivers. The reason the season is tanked. Is because we didn't go with barker sooner. You're the only one who sees a quality qb out of towles. No one else sees what you're seeing. You need new glasses or something that might be why.

 

[buckkiller]

Stoops is sucking it up and Towles isn't doing mych better. It is what it is we suck!

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

Barker threw the ugliest pick 6 into triple coverage... That's why he was benched. Do you watch the games?

The bomb he threw to Badet was under thrown but the coverage was so bad, Badet settled under it with time.

Barker's best throw was to Timmons, who ironically dropped his past 5 Towles passes that hits him on the hands.

I have no dog in the fight, but I tell you this...the staff, the receivers, the playcalling and missed blitz pickups destroyed this season... Not Towles.

You wanna hear something real funny about the play where towles thru a pick six in the back corner into triple coverage? The play call was a run play! Lololol. Yea you're right towles called out of the run from the 2 yard line throws an interception in the endzone and it's the line and receivers fault. Nice argument you have going here. And you try to say I'm ignorant? How funny.

 

[BBBLazing]

Um. Would you like to compare towles and barkers stats at the time during the vandy game that they decided to replace barker? Why could barker do it and towles can't if no one can succeed in this offense? Very confusing to me why barker didn't have an issue moving the ball with the same team towles is dealing with. You're right he's a solid qb! Says no logical man ever. He consistently throws bad throws behind the receivers, way over their heads, or way short. Can you really blame the receivers for dropping passes they're probably surprised the ball even got to them everytime it does manage to make it to the receiver. They seriously just look like that they don't expect the pass to get there so they barely try. Can't blame them either because he hardly throws a ball that makes it to the receivers. Yes we have more problems than towles on the team. But to trash the team and not place any blame on towles and to blame everyone but towles for towles poor play is pathetic. He deserves as much or more blame than anyone else on the team. You're right there's other issues. But he's the biggest issue no doubt besides coaching no doubt.

You know I support Barker, but he is not Manning. Badet had to slow down to catch the long ball he threw Saturday. I'm afraid that everyone that thinks it is as simple as replacing the QB is going to be disappointed.

 

[Levibooty]

I've seen a lot of young electrical apprentices with an impressive pouch of shiny tools who didn't know the difference between a screw and a bolt.

 

[ThatManJBeezyDoe4UK]

You know I support Barker, but he is not Manning. Badet had to slow down to catch the long ball he threw Saturday. I'm afraid that everyone that thinks it is as simple as replacing the QB is going to be disappointed.

You might be forgetting that barker was a highly touted high school all American. I don't think he was on a super bowl commercial for no reason was he? He might not be manning. But who's to say he won't wind up something special? I was never a towles guy.. But I've always been a barker guy. And I have confidence that he will be something special in his time at UK. Maybe not right off the bat. But he certainly has a way higher ceiling than towles, who's at that point where you think he's pretty much maxed out on how good he's ever ever going to get after over 20 starts. And I honestly think barker who is nowhere near as good as he's going to be considering he's a freshman. Is right now already wayyyy better with zero experience, than towles, who has maxed out his potential with tons of experience as a 4th year junior. So if I'm correct about that like I truly believe I am. Which I'm telling yall, watch out we should've made the move long ago I know a little bit more about the situation than a lot of you refuse to believe.. We have a lot to be excited about. But I guess we'll just have to see the next 2 games to know for sure.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

How dare UK fans want the games to be entertaining

How about wanting to win games, rather than just be entertained. I dont care if we win every game 6-3, Ill be ecstatic. But air raid fans would rather have a losing season, while scoring 30 a game.

You know I support Barker, but he is not Manning. Badet had to slow down to catch the long ball he threw Saturday. I'm afraid that everyone that thinks it is as simple as replacing the QB is going to be disappointed.

Ive seen this statement a few times in this thread. You do realize Barkers arm was hit on that throw, right? That although Vandy had a blitzer that came free, Barker made a quick read and quick throw to get rid of the ball for a long gain? Quick decisions are the key to this offense. Towles cant make quick decisions. Barker can.

Now, Barker isnt close to being ready. He showed that by being baited into a pick 6. But as of right now, hes the better option sadly.

 

[jc2010]

How about wanting to win games, rather than just be entertained. I dont care if we win every game 6-3, Ill be ecstatic. But air raid fans would rather have a losing season, while scoring 30 a game.




complete and total 100% unadulterated BS. Nothing is as entertaining as winning, the fans are just tired of seeing their team struggle with inferior teams and losing winnable games because of coaching errors and bone head decisions. If Stoops can't manage a game he needs to get someone on the sideline with him that can.

 

[Kooky Kats_anon]

Yep.

 

[Callinstraight]

I don't think Stoops should be fired, but I do think Towles is an NFL QB.

Me too. And I was a first team all state player in high school and a first team all conference player in college. I'm sure there are some on here with better credentials than that, but I think I'm pretty eligible to say I know the game of football.

The fricking game of football is pretty simple. Games are generally won and lost in the trenches. Our O line play was poor this past season. Unfortunately, unlike UL that had an equally poor O line, we didn't have a QB with the running ability to compensate for the bad pass protection. If ever there was a year for UK to have a run first QB, this past season was it.

In my opinion, the criticism about his ability to go through the progressions and "isn't smart enough between the ears" is misguided. ANY QB that got sacked and pressured as much as Towles will display the exact same symptoms he did. And please I hope I don't read a response that he made bad decisions and bad passes even when he wasn't pressured. THAT response will demonstrate a lack of football knowledge in my opinion, as you don't have to hit the QB every play; you just have to to hit him often enough to have him think he's going to get hit every play to adversely impact a QB's performance in a big way.

If Towles ends up on a team with a strong pass blocking O line, I expect him to light it up next year and end up in the NFL the following year.

 

[zannmann]

So, if Barker comes out and plays awesome next season, after getting all the first team snaps in practice, what will the Towles supporters say then?

 

[Brock28]

Me too. And I was a first team all state player in high school and a first team all conference player in college. I'm sure there are some on here with better credentials than that, but I think I'm pretty eligible to say I know the game of football.

The fricking game of football is pretty simple. Games are generally won and lost in the trenches. Our O line play was poor this past season. Unfortunately, unlike UL that had an equally poor O line, we didn't have a QB with the running ability to compensate for the bad pass protection. If ever there was a year for UK to have a run first QB, this past season was it.

In my opinion, the criticism about his ability to go through the progressions and "isn't smart enough between the ears" is misguided. ANY QB that got sacked and pressured as much as Towles will display the exact same symptoms he did. And please I hope I don't read a response that he made bad decisions and bad passes even when he wasn't pressured. THAT response will demonstrate a lack of football knowledge in my opinion, as you don't have to hit the QB every play; you just have to to hit him often enough to have him think he's going to get hit every play to adversely impact a QB's performance in a big way.

If Towles ends up on a team with a strong pass blocking O line, I expect him to light it up next year and end up in the NFL the following year.

Agree 100%. Towles will be an NFL QB. No doubt in my mind.

 

[fromthe25ydline]

In the case of Kentucky football, it's not the losing that pisses folks off, hell, we're quite used to losing, it's the HOW we lost that is so frigging unacceptable. If the majority of fans were to accept mediocrity on the field, then these threads would be meaningless. Let's hope it never comes to that.

 

[uk_fan_in_tn]

Towles got a raw deal, having 3 different offensive coordinators during his time here. Tough to get comfortable in an offense and play consistently all the time under those circumstances. He has the physical tools to be an NFL quarterback, there's no denying that. He's shown the ability to make all the throws and has good mobility. Depending on where he ends up and how he plays next season, he could still very well make it to the next level. Whether he sticks long term is another question.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...kentucky-qb-patrick-towles-flashes-nfl-upside

 

[kyjohn]

Sheeit I never said towles was a quality qb but I just started posting here can't speak for anyone else. But the people to ever say they think towles is a quality qb let alone NFL qb are some silly willys I can tell ya that much. And as far as stoops goes I think he's in over his head but he's got one more year to prove it then he gets the axe. And I think recruits might realize that too but hopefully we have enough for the next staff to do something with. Mark stoops has proven to be a pretty low quality head coach. Putting it nicely. Besides recruiting he's really really bad. Like the worst. It's inexcusable. He never does anything right in a game. His in game coaching is as bad or worse than jokers just with way better players. The decision to hire in entire inexperienced staff. No one knows what they're doing!

Can you imagine what it would be like for us UK fans if we didn't have such a pis poor coach ,staff,and players?We would have very little to complain about and lose our status as arm chair quartebacks and belonging to the "Fellowship of the miserable."

 

[Glenn Fohr]

Hope the kid ends up somewhere that will provide good coaching. Cutcliffe at Duke would be perfect for him.

 

[Kooky Kats_anon]

So, if Barker comes out and plays awesome next season, after getting all the first team snaps in practice, what will the Towles supporters say then?

No worries... With this staff, he'll suck.