Sean T Frazier
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But meanwhile, UNC Chapel Hill keeps rolling along.
well we don't have the report do we so everything is speculation, we don't know exactly everything that goes down and how things are presented. If Julie screwed up in that's its firable yes she should go. I don't know enough and I don't think anyone on this board knows enough to say automatically because Flood didn't do this that then Julie is also responsible because we don't know how things are going down and what is said in the investigation
Flood needs to go for many reasons. First is the performance on the field but then take in poor recruiting, email fiasco and other possible problems. Are you saying Julie is responsible for ALL his issues, not her hire. She is responsible for oversight and that's what could get her in trouble.
But since everyone wants Flood gone, I would think everyone better hope that Julie gets cleared too because then we have a real mess on our hands with no AD to hire the coach or oversee the other sports and then have to go through a protracted search. That's all Im saying. I think there are those just wishing to get rid of Julie to either clean the slate or because they never liked her in the first place
You can't be afraid to do better in life.
but that's what we do hear at Rutgers, never about circling the wagons, its always about trying to find the cheapest way out of a mess which actually causes a worse problem
Flood just be fired for on field results, no need to go through investigations to try and fire him for cause because you might not like whats dug up. Fire him and pay him the $ like other schools do it but no this school always will have something blow up in its face
You know I've always supported her and hoped she did well. No, I don't hold her responsible for all of Flood's issues, especially recruiting and coaching. That being said, she isn't doing well enough to keep around simply because you don't want to upset the apple cart.
I'm curious what tea leaves you are reading.
I have a friend who is pretty tied in at the Athletic Dept (but not as tied in as he was when Pernetti was here). He hears a lot of negative stuff about Julie and seems to think that Julie and Flood will be fired together.
But I also know that a lot of his sources are people who are still hung up on Pernetti and don't like Julie for a variety of reasons. And since some of the stuff he has heard from these sources in the past has turned out to be false, I think a lot of what he hears is sour grapes and false rumors.
I hear from others that Julie is regarded well by the top university administration and is expected to lead any changes in the football program. So barring some bombshell, I'd be really surprised if she's not AD next September. (And sure, the bombshell could come from the current investigation. But there is nothing to suggest that there will be a bombshell.)
You ever call the IRS and ask them to audit you just to prove you pay enough in taxes? Every hire a PI simply because you know your wife is faithful? Go through your teenage kids crap because you don't think they are smoking weed? Didn't think so.......
You and I are usually on the same page when it comes to RU football. This post however, is so far from reality, I don't know what to say. Other posters above me have mentions how we "dodged a bullet" for not hiring Frazier. I can assure you, JH is doing just fine. Oh, and Frazier didn't hire Rod Carey. That was the previous AD.
Where was this clean house attitude when TP was let go? I was fine keeping him or letting him go but most here and still some now were very adamant about keeping him. Again like I mentioned in another thread inconsistency of reaction by some here just like with FHJ and not letting him go at first or Rice and firing him without cause. No one dinged TP for that but so many were wanting to ding JH if he didn't let Flood go. Have any opinion you like but be consistent and not have a double standard. BTW should add this isn't specifically referring to you but the board in general.
seems like you are pushing an agenda here when you say "she isn't doing well enough to keep around". If she did something fireable then she should go but other than that fundraising is up, the Olympic sports are improving, the coaches like her, the donors seem to like her. She was handed an awful football coach who by the way you vehemently supported. So now we fire ADs because not even 3 years into her tenure the coach she got stuck with is proving to be a fraud...oh and your comment about Greg if hired being able to name his AD is ridiculous
But there is no "why" in this post either. You just say you are aware of his "issues," you recognize he didn't hire their successful football coach, and has nothing to do with that program's success, and you recognize you have no knowledge of his hiring skills. Then you say again that we should have hired him.
Why should we have hired him? Why is he more qualified than Julie?
I heard a while ago rumors, and stated it here, that many in the A.DEPT were actually documenting stuff about her to report and by the way these were not "pernetti" people per se--in addition I heard she was not liked by her peers in the BIG --these were rumors from different sources-some outside of her department who I know blamed pernetti for a lot of mistakes. I certainly know she is liked by barchi.
We agree more and more each day. I think that has been the point of what several have said. But in NJ and at Rutgers, we need to feed the lawyers. A legal opinion and investigation is ordered when none is needed.
I am going to guess that the problems discovered will be quite minor. But many will blow them up into major crimes to fit their agenda to fire whoever they want fired. It's also what we seem to like to do here in NJ. Instead of looking out for our own, we eat our own.
Look at Penn State and what happened there. Their fans banded together and went after everyone, including Freeh, other investigators, elected officials, etc. The are loyal to the program. I cannot in my lifetime Rutgers fans banding together like this, even for something minor. Someone makes a minor mistake, and a faction of people take joy in taking off their head and making a public spectacle.
The faculty are adept at playing us and driving wedges into the fanbase. And the media is better than the faculty.
few different places; some work inside the department, some have great connections, while others are big money boosters. My personal belief is that if Flood takes a buyout all stays quiet and JH returns. If he forces their hand and the report becomes exhibit A than she becomes collateral damage. Obviously, I haven't seen the report but if what I'm told is in it is it's not a good look. To be honest, it's crap that happens everywhere but coupled with arrests and the professor incident it becomes a pattern. I also think the decision would have huge implications on who the next coach is and the type of team we become.
the analogy to the IRS is off base-- yes you do this investigation after it was reported in the press by a RU player that he was addicted to pot and after that whole "hostess" stuff-to cover your *** and have an outside agency confirm all is well--and by the way it is common practice to self report in certain situations to get determination letters from IRS for certain qualifications
At the time, I felt he had the best resume of all our applicants from P5 schools. I was intrigued by the stoney brook guy but that was because he was known as a huge fundraiser. I like that he was from the B1G and although I don't recall specifics I remember him having been given credit for the job he did . Since going to UNI
Since his arrival at NIU, Frazier has been firmly committed to Huskie Athletics' future with a particular focus on improved facilities to remain competitive on a national level. In 2014-15, two major announcements provided a road map. In October, Frazier presented the NIU Athletics Facilities Master Plan, the first facilities master plan for the department since 1991. During his tenure at NIU, he completed the installation of a new football turf field; on-campus indoor tennis practice courts; new and improved men's & women's soccer locker rooms; and unveiled a new basketball court and design. In May, he introduced a new departmental Strategic Plan, which detailed the mission, vision, core values and critical issues for the next three years.
Frazier brought four new head coaches to NIU in 2014-15 to lead the Huskie women's tennis, baseball, women's cross country and women's basketball programs. Frazier also has made football scheduling a top priority, signing home-and-home football agreements with San Diego State, BYU, Utah, Maryland, Tulsa, Vanderbilt, Boston College and South Florida.
In two years leading NIU Athletics, Frazier has worked tirelessly to engage the campus and local communities, expand the Huskies' fan base and connect with alumni across Chicagoland and beyond. He instituted the Huskie Summer Circuit, bringing coaches and staff to four sites throughout the region to meet and interact with fans while promoting NIU and Huskie Athletics.
After introducing the new Coaches Club at Huskie Stadium for 2014 to great reviews, NIU opened the new End Zone Club in 2015. Basketball's courtside seats have sold out for two years in a row and sales in the Convocation Center's premium area, the Nelson Club, continue to grow. Frazier also initiated "The Yard", the official pregame tailgate area for NIU football, which made its debut in 2014.
Fans have responded, as the Huskie Athletic Fund collected more than $1 million in cash gifts for the first time in 2014 and the annual fund grew by 24 percent. NIU also signed a new multimedia and sponsorship partnership with Learfield Sports, while the NIU Convocation Center, which became a part of Intercollegiate Athletics in 2013, attracted popular acts like Brad Paisley, Casting Crowns, Second City, and Monster Trucks to the area.
What are you talking about? The stuff that came out on Hermann (volleyball coaching incident, how she dealt with an assistant coach who was pregnant, the whole wedding gate thing, etc) is far worse than anything that came out on Frazier. Far worse.
Frazier was the best hire then, and if the job were to open again and he were to apply, he would be even better now.
I know it isn't going to happen, but it would be the best thing to happen to our athletics program if it did.
Wisconsin is the model AD that we should be following...and he was a major reason they had so much success. A known fundraiser, someone who learned from Alvarez, one of the bet in the business....and he already has a ton of AD experience.
It's too bad we screwed this up when he was available and really wanted the job. Just another blunder in rutgers sports history.
This makes no sense.
If Flood is fired without cause, then Rutgers pays him the buyout. There is no hand to force. He doesn't get to turn down the buyout and challenge the reason he was fired. The whole point of firing him without cause is that there doesn't need to be a reason to fire him. There is no justification; there is no Exhibit A.
We dodged a bullet, then with all of Hermanns faults and miscues, got hit with a grenade.
I would have taken the bullet.
Not sure I follow.....
conversation goes something like this "look we have more than enough to fire you with cause but we don't want to see you go away with nothing. We are going to offer you x, y, or z and after you accept it we part ways. If you don't accept it we release the report and you not only get no money you get crushed, again, in the media" you have one week to decide.....
I've gone back and forth about this and I'm not a lawyer but I'd imagine there are ways of getting around FOIA, especially regarding legal issues. Again, my sources could all be 100% wrong and there could be no smoke, no fire, and everyone will still be employed November 30th. Someone asked me a question and I gave a response.
Sure, they made a list of those most qualified, and Julie was not on the list.
But she pulled an Ace out of a hole, to get the job. So why did we either bother
with trying to do things right?
The likely reality is the report will be a read that would make Cheech and Chong blush. I still can't believe the bozos we have running this place are going out of their way to bring this on top of everything else we've been through.
If that report does show the cover up of rampant recreational drug use, I can't imagine either survive. Sad thing is, Julie was finding her way and having some success with other programs. Politi seems to have finally calmed down and given up his crusade against her. For the first time since she was hired, it was starting to look like it might all wind up ok, after all.
I agree with this.
A few people seemed to not like Julie from Day One and jumped on all of the media created items to justify their dislike of her (so she made a Sandusky joke in a meeting...big deal...she should be commended for that!). It seems that the vast majority who have met her have liked her and been impressed, she has been willing to bring in good coaches when available (Fridgeon, Pritzlaff for wrestling), fundraising has improved, and she is trying to change the culture in a (very clearly) dysfunctional athletic department.
Absent something coming out that directly implicates her in wrongdoing, it seems like she is one of the few people around here trying to make this place better.
I am neither for or against Julie. It sounds like she is doing an ok job and has a solid background as an administrator. In that regard, she has put together some much needed back-office infrastructure that has been missing here for ages. The jury is still out on her as fund raiser and she really hasn't been tasked with making any significant coaching hires either. She has also made a ton of public gaffes in her short time here which have resulted in her seemingly being withheld from those type of situations now. My issue with her though is really more about the hiring process itself and the way she was shoved down the committees throats by a single person with an agenda. That type of thing really bothers me and detracts significantly from the merits of her candidacy, even if she was qualified. Regardless though, I simply don't get the love fest for her on here by some on this board who seem to worship her. Honestly, some of it borders on creepy.
All sounds good so as I usually do I did a quick lookup to see who was there before Frazier and see if I could find out what he did. He was there from 2008 so he definitely hired Doeren/Carey and might have hired Kill.
His name is Jeff Compher and he's the AD at ECU now.
Rather than copy/paste his whole bios I'll just put up links to NIU and ECU and highlight the points that matter. Sounds like those facilities that were completed were on their way from fundraising already done by Compher.
Also took a look around to see if Frazier's name was mentioned for other openings, saw it for Pitt but Frazier said he wasn't a finalist as candidates expectedly do if they're not in the running. They hired a guy from Utah State. Said his name wasn't in the Syracuse hunt either. Took a look at the Illinois opening, sounds like a logical landing spot being at NIU and a few articles had listed 5 candidates but his name wasn't one of them. He may get a P5 job down the line but so far haven't seen too much about him.
The only thing with Frazier is that he might actually hire one my faves in Aranda, although I'm not sure if he was at Wisconsin when Aranda came on board. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Snippets from Compher's bio.
Over the past year, Compher has helped Northern Illinois secure more than $9 million in donations toward construction of the Kenneth and Ellen Chessick Practice Center, an indoor training facility that will benefit every Huskie team. Construction on the Chessick Center, located adjacent to the Jeffrey and Kimberly Yordon Center in the middle of NIU's athletic footprint, began in the fall of 2012 and is slated for completion in 2013.
Fundraising has been on the rise during Compher's tenure. For the sixth-straight year, the primary direct support organization for NIU Athletics, the Huskie Athletic Support Fund, finished its annual fund drive with record-breaking figures in 2012 as gifts surpassed the million-dollar mark for the sixth-consecutive year.
While he put his own distinct fingerprint on capital projects, facility renovations and fundraising at NIU with the construction of the school's new indoor training center and record-breaking annual gift levels,
http://www.niuhuskies.com/genrel/compher_jeff00.html
http://www.ecupirates.com/genrel/jeff_compher_846640.html