Article SEC levies hefty fine against Mississippi State for field storming after victory over Arizona State - Steve Samra

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The money goes to the opposing school. This makes sense when its a conference game, but is the SEC making us give ASU an extra $500K? Maybe ASU would be nice and just donate it back?

I know this wont happen, but it would be cool if yhe coaches and players chipped in to pay the fine...sort of a "thank you" for the support.

Someone posted that there was a timer for the students to wait on storming the field, but the students shockingly did not let a timer hold them back. If there is a "next time", then maybe we could charge people to LEAVE the field once they have stormed it?
That's a good point. The fine going to the opposing team makes sense. It also makes storming the field an even dumber move from a competitive standpoint.

I don't think the SEC would tolerate paying the fine by letting fans pay to storm the field. That would defeat the whole purpose.
 

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That's a good point. The fine going to the opposing team makes sense. It also makes storming the field an even dumber move from a competitive standpoint.

I don't think the SEC would tolerate paying the fine by letting fans pay to storm the field. That would defeat the whole purpose.
Donations make up 20 to 40% of Athletic Department revenues in the SEC. Donations are covering the fines no matter how you slice it. We dont have to claim that any specific fund raiser is designated to cover the fines.

And I dont think it makes sense to send the money to the opposing schools, especially the ones out of conference. From what I saw on the tape, no ASU personnel were in harms way...a few players were casually strolling toward the South end zone. They dont deserve $500K for lolly gagging.

Im not opposed to the fine, I just dont think a non conference school deserves a $500K "apology".
 
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That's a good point. The fine going to the opposing team makes sense. It also makes storming the field an even dumber move from a competitive standpoint.

I don't think the SEC would tolerate paying the fine by letting fans pay to storm the field. That would defeat the whole purpose
Except the money isn’t going to Arizona State. Y’all need to at least read a little before you assume something. If it were against a conference opponent the money goes to the opposing opponent but against a non conference team it goes into a post grad SEC scholarship fund.


 
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I’m sure most State fans would have been happy to pay an extra $500k to improve our roster next season. Now that money is going to the SEC office.

When you make college sports all about the money… it’s all about the money.
I’m unsure of what point you are trying to make.

Are you contending that 10,000 drunk 18-22 year olds who have not seen a win in Starkville over a ranked opponent since 10/30/2021 (over #20 Kentucky, which barely counts) should have all had a quick Zoom call to discuss merits and demerits before deciding to do this?

If not….knowing that mob mentality is going to prevail….would you be willing to acknowledge that if the fine is $500k for storming the field, then that is going to inevitably be a cost of doing business for any program that doesn’t totally suck, and even some that do? One way or another, that is the minimum cost. The hope of course being that it becomes less and less necessary over time as the program continues to improve.

Facts are that if you don’t want fans storming the field, there are only a few other alternatives. One is to dump probably way more than $500k on an extra 100 or so armed rent-a-cops for pretty much every P4 game (5 per year), for multiple years, just in the off chance that a historic upset might occur. Another is to just keep sucking, never win any more big games, which would lose well over $500k in ticket sales and donations. There is no scenario where that $500k isn’t getting paid in some form.
 

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Except the money isn’t going to Arizona State. Y’all need to at least read a little before you assume something. If it were against a conference opponent the money goes to the opposing opponent but against a non conference team it goes into a post grad SEC scholarship fund.



I was referring to the SEC rule, not Arizona State.
 

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It makes me sad that some of you Debbie Downer, penny pincher, Larry Templeton types are Mississippi State fans. We just had a huge win, national exposure and some good feelings around our football program for the first time in years and some of y’all are mad and think we can’t afford a $500K fine? This message board is close to jumping the shark for me when some of y’all b!tch after what happened Saturday. It was a great night for the university and totally worth a $500K fine.
 

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We needed the win, not to storm the field. It would have been nice to have the win plus the $500k we’re about to send to the SEC.

Besides it being stupid to burn half a mil for no reason, the rule is in place because storming the field is a dangerous situation. Players and coaches shouldn’t have to deal with fans on the playing surface, full stop.
Stfu loser
 

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I’m unsure of what point you are trying to make.

Are you contending that 10,000 drunk 18-22 year olds who have not seen a win in Starkville over a ranked opponent since 10/30/2021 (over #20 Kentucky, which barely counts) should have all had a quick Zoom call to discuss merits and demerits before deciding to do this?

If not….knowing that mob mentality is going to prevail….would you be willing to acknowledge that if the fine is $500k for storming the field, then that is going to inevitably be a cost of doing business for any program that doesn’t totally suck, and even some that do? One way or another, that is the minimum cost. The hope of course being that it becomes less and less necessary over time as the program continues to improve.

Facts are that if you don’t want fans storming the field, there are only a few other alternatives. One is to dump probably way more than $500k on an extra 100 or so armed rent-a-cops for pretty much every P4 game (5 per year), for multiple years, just in the off chance that a historic upset might occur. Another is to just keep sucking, never win any more big games, which would lose well over $500k in ticket sales and donations. There is no scenario where that $500k isn’t getting paid in some form.
I was replying to someone saying that our donors would provide the funds to cover the fine. While true, that is money that is not being donated for another purpose. So there is a cost. Our donor base doesn’t have unlimited money.

I’m just speaking against the voodoo accounting that claims that this is somehow not costing us $500k.
 

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With student id’s etc I’m sure the technology is there to know who went on the field. Just slip an extra incidental fee into that tuition bill.
It wasn't just students out there, and the first ones on the field came from the west side.
 

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I was there with my kids and it was fantastic. A night none of us will forget. I don't give a single $h!t about their fine. Hand them a check and tell them there is another one coming when we whip Ole Miss' azz on black Friday. They can stick both of them where the sun don't shine. That is the best $500K the school will ever spend. We have been the talk of college football for 3 days now.
 

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Some of those students haven’t experienced anything like that. I mean we haven’t had a big win in few years so some were literally in Jr High. We’ve been needing a win like this for way too long Let em enjoy it they’ll remember it forever
 
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Rule change in the last couple of years in response to what UT did after they bet Bama. THT is the amount now.
Well it is beyond stupid. Universities, cannot be expected to stop a stampede. Seriously.
We didn't tear down our posts, we did not cause an issue for ASU, Hell if anything we just went out there and stood by our players and enjoyed one of the best endings to a football game you will ever see. 500k is a joke.

I will say this, if Universities could stop the mob from getting to the field, then yes 500k would be fine. But they cannot keep it from happening. When the mob makes a decision, you could have had every police officer in the city on that field and there is nothing they could do about it.
 
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You guys need to keep up with the changes, it was in June. If they had waited till teams cleared field then no fine. This not a check we just write we cant afford it right now. Best option is to collect money at the gate for the next 3 games.
Well considering my box went up like 20k this year.... they already have the money.
Don't increase prices when you go 2-10, after an 0-8 year prior, after a coach dies.
 
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We needed the win, not to storm the field. It would have been nice to have the win plus the $500k we’re about to send to the SEC.

Besides it being stupid to burn half a mil for no reason, the rule is in place because storming the field is a dangerous situation. Players and coaches shouldn’t have to deal with fans on the playing surface, full stop.
Just don't send it. What are they going to do?
 
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We needed the win, not to storm the field. It would have been nice to have the win plus the $500k we’re about to send to the SEC.

Besides it being stupid to burn half a mil for no reason, the rule is in place because storming the field is a dangerous situation. Players and coaches shouldn’t have to deal with fans on the playing surface, full stop.
Agreed. Players and coaches shouldn't have to deal with that. But.... it happens. I shouldn't have to watch their coach being a jackass... yet here we are.
 
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I was replying to someone saying that our donors would provide the funds to cover the fine. While true, that is money that is not being donated for another purpose. So there is a cost. Our donor base doesn’t have unlimited money.

I’m just speaking against the voodoo accounting that claims that this is somehow not costing us $500k.
Its certainly costing us $500k. No disputing that. But you also kinda started the thread with a presumably tongue-in-cheek comment about us being able to buy players with that money instead. And it’s worth noting for clarity that what you presented there is not reality.

That $500k is something that has to be in the kitty at all times, even more so when you experience extended periods of suck. Its like owning a house in an area with hail and hurricane force winds every year. Eventually, you’ll have to file a claim for a new roof when a certain event happens. You get the good fortune of getting a mostly free roof. But you still have to pay the deductible.

Alternatively, you could just keep buying a new, nicer house every 1-2 years and never have to worry about the new roof, but then you’re making a tenfold investment elsewhere. That’s the equivalent of being a “have” program and constantly pumping millions into facilities and NIL. In our case, we pay the “extended suck” tax here, and hope we don’t have to be in the circumstances where we need it again for a very long time. That would mean we built up a higher expectation for success.
 
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Our new classifications were actually implemented this past week just in case this happened. Everyone please see below for how much you need to donate to help cover the fine.

Redshirt: $0
Freshman: $50
Sophomore: $100
Junior: $200
Senior: $400
All-Conference : $1,000
All-American: $5,000
Heisman: $10,000
Hall of Famer: $100,000
I don't even know what I am ranked.
 

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The money goes to the opposing school. This makes sense when its a conference game, but is the SEC making us give ASU an extra $500K? Maybe ASU would be nice and just donate it back?

I know this wont happen, but it would be cool if yhe coaches and players chipped in to pay the fine...sort of a "thank you" for the support.

Someone posted that there was a timer for the students to wait on storming the field, but the students shockingly did not let a timer hold them back. If there is a "next time", then maybe we could charge people to LEAVE the field once they have stormed it?
Are you stupid?
 

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Just don't send it. What are they going to do?
Believe it or not, the SEC office sends us a lot more money than we send them. They absolutely have the leverage to collect a $500k fine.

That's like telling a professional athlete not to pay a fine. The league just deducts it from their salary.
 
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$500k

Here's what that could have been spent on:
That win was worth more than 500k to the University, and the city. I know they have to levy fines and I'm ok with that. It's a safety and security issue, especially for the other team. But sometimes it needs to happen no matter what the cost. Saturday was one of those days.

I'll give $20 to the cause and I hope all you nerds do too.

I love you all,

GOJ
 

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Are you stupid?
Im being facetious, although it would be cool of the players and coaches paid it...they can afford it a lot more than most of us.

But, I just read that since ASU is a non conference school, the money goes to the SEC's post graduate scholarship fund. That sounds a bit like the Policeman's Ball, if you ask me.
 

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Here is what I don't get. How is a fine not paid by the stormers supposed to stop this when there is physically no way to stop it when enough decide to storm without potentially creating an even more dangerous situation.
 

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Here is what I don't get. How is a fine not paid by the stormers supposed to stop this when there is physically no way to stop it when enough decide to storm without potentially creating an even more dangerous situation.
The point of the fine is for schools to come up with ways to deter the storming. More security, more notification to the crowd that they must wait...if necessary start arresting and/or fining however many offenders you can.

The students might wait for that timer to tick down if they know the first few offenders will get arrested.
 

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Our new classifications were actually implemented this past week just in case this happened. Everyone please see below for how much you need to donate to help cover the fine.

Redshirt: $0
Freshman: $50
Sophomore: $100
Junior: $200
Senior: $400
All-Conference : $1,000
All-American: $5,000
Heisman: $10,000
Hall of Famer: $100,000
Which… strictly speaking… in order of rarity, the Hall of Famer should come before the Heisman.

There are about 1,300 College Football Hall of Famers. There are only like 90 Heisman winners.

Get it together, On3.
 

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We needed the win, not to storm the field. It would have been nice to have the win plus the $500k we’re about to send to the SEC.

Besides it being stupid to burn half a mil for no reason, the rule is in place because storming the field is a dangerous situation. Players and coaches shouldn’t have to deal with fans on the playing surface, full stop.
Shut the f*ck up, disrespectfully.
 

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For out of conference games the money goes to the SEC
I was there with my kids and it was fantastic. A night none of us will forget. I don't give a single $h!t about their fine. Hand them a check and tell them there is another one coming when we whip Ole Miss' azz on black Friday. They can stick both of them where the sun don't shine. That is the best $500K the school will ever spend. We have been the talk of college football for 3 days now.
It’s this. Some folks just don’t get it. Between the win and the fine we’ve had more publicity than we’ve had in years. We need to take every opportunity we can to get our name out there.
 
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I don't even know what I am ranked.
You’re a Senior. It’s under your username on your posts. I’m an All-American trying to inch ever closer to Heisman status.

Alas, my far left ideology makes my off-season reaction score progression really suffer. That, and sometimes, I’m an insufferable prick.***
 
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Stfu loser

Hey… hey… hey… come in real close so you can hear me clearly. This is really important.

17 you.

Shut the f*ck up, disrespectfully.

One side of the argument seems to be triggered and emotional...

I just don't think storming the field is worth $500k. I'd rather spend that money on something else. You are free to disagree, but I don't understand getting your feelings so hurt over a difference of opinion.

Have a great day!
 

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One side of the argument seems to be triggered and emotional...

I just don't think storming the field is worth $500k. I'd rather spend that money on something else. You are free to disagree, but I don't understand getting your feelings so hurt over a difference of opinion.

Have a great day!
Because your opinion is stupid. We had the biggest recruiting weekend in over a decade, all of which the recruits went out on the field for the storming and many now are either about to commit or have us as their leader. All of them raved about the atmosphere and the field storming. We have been seen as the lame a** school that no one wants to go to for a long time because of attitudes like yours. The minute we do something cool that recruits like we have someone complaining about it.
 

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I'm glad we "stormed" the field and I knew we would get fined but I had no idea they had bumped the fine up that far.....I thought the going rate was still around $250K. Whatever...it was worth it. If someone hears of a designated place to send money to help pay this fine I hope they will post it.
 
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I know I'm late to the party but $500k is less than 1% of the $52.5 million dollar payout we received from the SEC from 2024.

We can afford it. And if we can't, there's a certain AD who needs a foot buried in his ***.
 

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I know I'm late to the party but $500k is less than 1% of the $52.5 million dollar payout we received from the SEC from 2024.

We can afford it. And if we can't, there's a certain AD who needs a foot buried in his ***.
Our AD operated at a deficit in both 2023 and 2024, so $500K is not insignificant. But you gotta spend money to make money, right?

Selmon could always go the Templeton route and sell one of our SEC home games...