SEC Revenue set to jump..

[57stratdawg]

basically double, which would probably put us at about $34MM per year by 2014-2015.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ies (Sports - College Football - Top Stories)

 

[engie]

basically double, which would probably put us at about $34MM per year by 2014-2015.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2013/01/16/sec-conference-money-increases/1836389/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20UsatodaycomCollegeFootball-TopStories%20%28Sports%20-%20College%20Football%20-%20Top%20Stories%29

I read the article earlier today... One thing that jumped out at me is how lowly they estimated the SEC network. That is total and complete ninsaninty($1.5mil/school/yr). It'll be worth nearly that IN MS ALONE(~$12 mil/yr in MS) -- and we are the smallest market. I'm guessing that's the launch year number ONLY, which is assuming the launch to happen slowly apparently, because overall, that network is going to be worth a killing once it's fully implemented.

I'm seeing $50mil/yr/school by 2016 -- up to $75-100 mil/school by 2020(assuming an NC and VA team are added) and the SEC network follows the same $$ expansion model as the B1G network.

 

[DAWG61]

Numbers like that and no way UNC turns down an invite.

 

[engie]

That's what I've been saying all along. It's going to be financially almost impossible for them to tell us no. Many here have consistently argued with me on that point...

This year, 30-40% more people watched SEC football than any other. That means once the dust settles on all these tv negotiations, our product is worth 30-40% more money than any other(JUST football). Basketball is worth EQUAL to everyone else(our viewership was approx equal before adding Mizzou/aTm, so maybe we are worth slightly more).

That's not even figuring the additional excitement about baseball programming on the SEC network, etc... We will LITERALLY have double the viewership compared to the B1G network in the spring. What's that worth monetarily? More than a little, that's for sure...

I see true value ending up somewhere around the B1G worth $50-60 mil/school and the SEC worth $75-85 mil/school. The Big12/Pac12 somewhere aroudn $40-50 mil/school...

 

[FlabLoser]

We still can't afford decent audio in the stadium.**

 

[tenureplan]

Or better hotdogs

or nicer smelling cups

 

[patdog]

If the SEC does expand again, it will be only for a school like UNC. My guess is the second school would be VA Tech, but I've heard rumors that UNC would want to bring Virginia with them instead. I could see the SEC possibly going for that.

 

[57stratdawg]

If the SEC does expand again, it will be only for a school like UNC. My guess is the second school would be VA Tech, but I've heard rumors that UNC would want to bring Virginia with them instead. I could see the SEC possibly going for that.

It'll be a new market team, but won't be UNC. NC State is much more likely.

 

[BigDog72.sixpack]

Couldn't agree more with Flabloser

We still can't afford decent audio in the stadium.**

I've been meaning to start a thread about this alone. We've got Peavey Electronics as a premier booster and we can't consult with them about getting some more speakers around our stadium? You would think Peavey would donate them just to get a piece of the stadium action with their name plastered all over it somewhere. I've thought about sending an email to Scott, but if you happened to go to the Bama game in Tusc., you would see what I'm talking about. They had speakers about every 15 yards that looked to be about 4'x 2' x 2' weather proof speakers and when you watched something on their "mini" screens, it stayed in sync. We really should jump all over this. It would definitely improve Professor Physics!

 

[RocketDawg]

I've said all along that Virginia would be an excellent addition, as well as UNC. They don't play great football, but they would add a lot academically. And UNC plays pretty decent basketball.

 

[engie]

It'll be a new market team, but won't be UNC. NC State is much more likely.

Why?

 

[patdog]

I just don't see the SEC going into the state of North Carolina to take the school that's a distant #3 in that state. If the SEC goes in, it will be to take the school that dominates the state. And UNC will eventually come if the SEC really wants them.

 

[RocketDawg]

Seems to me like when we first put the large video board in operation, the sound was great. Since then it's deteriorated. Maybe some speakers are blown.

But when we put the other screen in, and if we have speakers all over the place, I can see huge issues with out of synch sound unless you can only hear the one nearest to you as it apparently is at Alabama. One big speaker north and one south would cause big problems I would think unless you're right in the middle of the field.

 

[57stratdawg]

Why?

They're too proud to join the SEC. Basketball and academics, we don't do or support either.

 

[engie]

They're too proud to join the SEC. Basketball and academics, we don't do or support either.

But they will let little brother join and become athletically dominant over them? And richer(at least in terms of athletics revenue)? That arrogance cuts both ways...

It's a catch-22 for them. The SEC is alot better academically than it once was. Will be particularly so when Georgia and Alabama gets into the AAU as is being rumored -- to join Vandy, aTm, Florida, and Mizzou. Those 2 get in and almost half the conference has good academic prestige.

 

[patdog]

You'd be surprised. They've put a LOT of money into football the last few years and they want to become a football and basketball school. Also, as engie points out, they would never let NC State go to the SEC without first trying to get an invitation for themselves (at which point, there wouldn't be any interest in NC State from the SEC).

 

[BiscuitEater]

So, what school ...

I've said all along that Virginia would be an excellent addition, as well as UNC. They don't play great football, but they would add a lot academically. And UNC plays pretty decent basketball.

do you invite from Virginia? UVA kept VA Tech out of the ACC for as long as they could because they knew exactly what would happen. Since joining in the ACC in '04, Tech has won 9 in a row over UVA.

UVA has higher academic requirements but Tech has bigger enrollment, better facilities and better team.

 

[esplanade91]

I just don't see the SEC going into the state of North Carolina to take the school that's a distant #3 in that state. If the SEC goes in, it will be to take the school that dominates the state. And UNC will eventually come if the SEC really wants them.

Yet we have no problem going into Texas and grabbing the third (arguably worse) best program over the last ~10 years (Texas, TCU, maybe Houston, and I would add that Baylor because of RGIII is about equal).

USC wasn't a top choice in South Carolina either.

You can't look at "right now". USC was garbage when we added them. A&M was mediocre, but they put SEC next to their name and instantly get every recruit they want. They started slow but bounced back with stronger competition.

NCSU would be an AWESOME addition, if not for the cult following that most SEC schools are notable for. They have 2 1st round QB's in 10 years, and they have one of the top CB's in this year's draft (2-4 rounds). Their basketball facilities would be #2 to Rupp. They fit in with what we do in baseball, maybe not in prestige, but in ideology. Mizzou baseball? No. North Carolina is a great baseball state though.

They're not tailor made for the SEC in year one like Texas A&M was, but they bring a LOT to the table and they don't have huge heads like UNC bigwigs.

 

[engie]

I think Virginia is an entirely different dynamic than North Carolina. UVA has already experienced their rival becoming dominant over them athletically -- so that's not an inherent "fear" in their decision. I think UVA is B1G-bound along with Duke...

 

[patdog]

You're confusing good teams with good schools. A&M has always been the #2 school in Texas and it isn't even close. There's a HUGE difference between taking A&M and taking NC State. The South Carolina analogy is a bad one too. That was 20 years ago. Back then, the revenue boost wasn't going to come from who we added. There just wasn't enough TV money for anyone to bring in that was going to make much, if any, difference in the SEC's regular season TV contract. The revenue boost from that expansion was adding the championship game.

The chart below of average attendance should give you a pretty good idea of where the schools stand as far as fanbase.

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School	2011	2010	2009
Texas	100,524	100,654	101,175
Texas A&M	87,183	82,477	76,800
Oklahoma	85,161	84,738	84,778
Missouri	62,095	61,540	64,120
Oklahoma State	57,229	50,812	53,719
Texas Tech	55,347	57,108	50,249
Iowa State	53,647	45,395	46,242
Kansas State	49,030	49,816	46,763
Kansas	42,283	44,851	50,581
Baylor	41,368	40,043	36,306

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[esplanade91]

How are they bad comparisons? NCSU is in the capitol city, like USC. NCSU's basketball arena holds 19,000 and does a good job of filling it out. So what haven't I nailed down? It's a metro area and not necessarily a college town (like USC) and brings a ton of fans to basketball games (like A&M football).

Not saying I don't want UNC more or less, just trying to say that NCSU wouldn't be settling. It would be a good addition.

 

[Cow College]

We should be able to payoff the stadium in no time at all. How long until Alabama is paying head coach $10 mil plus

 

[patdog]

You obviously didn't even read my post. USC-NCSU is a bad comparison because we added USC in a different era with a completely different motive for expanding. We could have added Tulane and UAB and still gotten most of the revenue boost we could have gotten from anyone else because the key driver was to get to 12 teams.