Sellers is coming back. No one has thoughts?

Lurker123

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60% completion rate is nothing special. Averaging 22.5 yds per game rushing doesn't scare anyone either.

DCs know how to shut him down now. I don't see Briles totally remaking him as a player, which is what is needed. He is an athlete playing QB, like most HS teams do. Unfortunately, college defenses are full of athletes too.

I wonder if the answer isn't finally having a real OC to remake him, but an OC to just run an offenst that fits his strengths?

The best job a college OC can do, imo, is not necessarily adapt the players to his offense, but to adapt the offense to the player.
 

Cocky Jeff

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The problem with his behavior is that he may have damaged some relationships. Sometimes relationships can be more important than the actual play on the field. Hopefully he hasn't broken trust in a way that has alienated him from his teammates. I actually think he needs to come back to improve his draft stock, and show he can be productive in a good system.
Not. Got away from football. Cleared his head.
 

18IsTheMan

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He could have moved.

Laterally, probably. I doubt he would have found much traction in the portal for top programs, given his level of play this season. He probably could have transferred to Kentucky or something similar.

It's just pro sports now. "His people" are "hammering out a deal" that will keep him in Columbia. I am certain if "his people' could have landed a better deal elsewhere that incentivized him moving on, they would have.
 
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I do not underestimate at all that defenses now know how to defense Sellers. I don't see a new OC changing that. He is not a drop back passer. He is a roll out runner playing QB.
 
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Laterally, probably. I doubt he would have found much traction in the portal for top programs, given his level of play this season. He probably could have transferred to Kentucky or something similar.

It's just pro sports now. "His people" are "hammering out a deal" that will keep him in Columbia. I am certain if "his people' could have landed a better deal elsewhere that incentivized him moving on, they would have.
No way to know one way or the other about his options unless something credible comes out. They worked him hard enough to dissuade him. He was certainly in need of convincing.
 
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No way to know one way or the other about his options unless something credible comes out. They worked him hard enough to dissuade him. He was certainly in need of convincing.
It really doesn't take a lot of reading the tea leaves here. He was weighing 2 factors: who we hired as OC and what his portal prospects were.
 
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KingWard

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It really doesn't take a lot of reading the tea leaves here. He was weighing 2 factors: who we hired as OC and what his portal prospects were.
It's usually easier to stay than to leave in any context unless where you are is untenable.
 
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Laterally, probably. I doubt he would have found much traction in the portal for top programs, given his level of play this season. He probably could have transferred to Kentucky or something similar.

It's just pro sports now. "His people" are "hammering out a deal" that will keep him in Columbia. I am certain if "his people' could have landed a better deal elsewhere that incentivized him moving on, they would have.
I doubt a single P4 team would have wanted him as a QB. He simply isn't a P4 QB. He could get a QB job at a G5 program and probably look pretty good there.

He is staying because South Carolina is willing to pay him more than he can get anywhere else. Or, maybe, he really wants to be here.
 

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I doubt a single P4 team would have wanted him as a QB. He simply isn't a P4 QB. He could get a QB job at a G5 program and probably look pretty good there.

He is staying because South Carolina is willing to pay him more than he can get anywhere else. Or, maybe, he really wants to be here.

I would think a mid-to-lower tier P4 team in need of a QB for next year might have rolled the dice on the off chance they get the Sellers from the latter half of last season. Zero chance any top 25 type team would have taken that chance based on how he played this year.
 

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Shurburtt made a good point this morning. There's a difference between a qb who doesn't play well and one who cannot play well. Sellers doesn't play well at times but he also has the ability to play well.
 

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I doubt a single P4 team would have wanted him as a QB. He simply isn't a P4 QB. He could get a QB job at a G5 program and probably look pretty good there.

He is staying because South Carolina is willing to pay him more than he can get anywhere else. Or, maybe, he really wants to be here.
Day drinking?
 

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No way to know one way or the other about his options unless something credible comes out. They worked him hard enough to dissuade him. He was certainly in need of convincing.
So now we have a qb that needed 'convincing' to get him to come back. Nice. Kind of like Spurrier.

My opinion is that he was 'convinced' by the absence of any pots of gold at the end of rainbows that didnt hit in Columbia SC.
 

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I would think a mid-to-lower tier P4 team in need of a QB for next year might have rolled the dice on the off chance they get the Sellers from the latter half of last season. Zero chance any top 25 type team would have taken that chance based on how he played this year.
I should have said top 25. I could see a Rutgers or Maryland type team rolling the dice on him. I doubt they would offer him as much money as SC would though.
 

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So now we have a qb that needed 'convincing' to get him to come back. Nice. Kind of like Spurrier.

My opinion is that he was 'convinced' by the absence of any pots of gold at the end of rainbows that didnt hit in Columbia SC.
Well, I think the time to question the desirability or reason of his return must soon give way to an anticipation of viewing the result.
 

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I was in Florence this weekend. I was told he was waiting on the OC hire before making a decision. What did you hear? He was coming back regardless of who was hired as OC? I don't think so.
It was 95%. It would have had to be a terrible hire.
 

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Laterally, probably. I doubt he would have found much traction in the portal for top programs, given his level of play this season. He probably could have transferred to Kentucky or something similar.

It's just pro sports now. "His people" are "hammering out a deal" that will keep him in Columbia. I am certain if "his people' could have landed a better deal elsewhere that incentivized him moving on, they would have.
Wrong.
 

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I doubt a single P4 team would have wanted him as a QB. He simply isn't a P4 QB. He could get a QB job at a G5 program and probably look pretty good there.

He is staying because South Carolina is willing to pay him more than he can get anywhere else. Or, maybe, he really wants to be here.
Your last sentence.
 

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So now we have a qb that needed 'convincing' to get him to come back. Nice. Kind of like Spurrier.

My opinion is that he was 'convinced' by the absence of any pots of gold at the end of rainbows that didnt hit in Columbia SC.
Yep.

I believe last offseason he came back b/c this is where he wanted to be (with appropriate financial encouragement, of course). This year I believe it's because he didn't have any compelling options.
 

Cocky Jeff

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So now we have a qb that needed 'convincing' to get him to come back. Nice. Kind of like Spurrier.

My opinion is that he was 'convinced' by the absence of any pots of gold at the end of rainbows that didnt hit in Columbia SC.
So incorrect.
 

Cocky Jeff

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Yep.

I believe last offseason he came back b/c this is where he wanted to be (with appropriate financial encouragement, of course). This year I believe it's because he didn't have any compelling options.
Incorrect.
 

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Regardless of his motives or other options, he's now in the hands of the first competent OC we've had in quite some time. Here's hoping Briles can scheme to his specific strengths to generate an effective offense.
 
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He's given us the good and the bad which makes him comfortable and accepted here at Carolina and staying to work with a new OC is the easy choice in hopes of rekindling the good.
 

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I think it's great for both sides as long as he buys in totally to the offense. Can't do a "last Clowney year" type thing. He can elevate his status locally and financially with the potential career year he might have.
 

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I think it's great for both sides as long as he buys in totally to the offense. Can't do a "last Clowney year" type thing. He can elevate his status locally and financially with the potential career year he might have.
Imagine how much money Clowney could have made with NIL.
 

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I think it's great for both sides as long as he buys in totally to the offense. Can't do a "last Clowney year" type thing. He can elevate his status locally and financially with the potential career year he might have.
He's not good enough to pull a Clowney. Belichick said he'd have taken Clowney out of high school if he could have (maybe some hyperbole there, but he was beyond generationally talented). After his sophomore season, he was the hands down #1 pick in the NFL draft barring some kind of cataclysmic injury in his last season. He didn't have to prove anything to anyone his last year. Sellers, on the other hand, has A LOT to prove this year. His play this last season created a lot of question marks. He can't just come in and coast.