Senate Arms Committee to investigate Hegseth’s illegal order

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That’s it folks. We either have a congress that does its job or we are being ruled by a wannabe despot and his army of sychophants. People have been executed for these kind of crimes against humanity. We are currently the terroists. Will congress correct this?
I don't know if you say it, but one of the democrat representatives in today's hearing with the Admiral, said that there was no order from Hegseth to "kill them all". So there was one part of the narrative debunked. But it's still unclear to me if the terrorists were attempting to continue the mission and the second strike was warranted as Sen Cotton said or that the boat was so damaged that the mission was doomed and there was no reason for a second strike as a Dem representative said.
 

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I don't know if you say it, but one of the democrat representatives in today's hearing with the Admiral, said that there was no order from Hegseth to "kill them all". So there was one part of the narrative debunked. But it's still unclear to me if the terrorists were attempting to continue the mission and the second strike was warranted as Sen Cotton said or that the boat was so damaged that the mission was doomed and there was no reason for a second strike as a Dem representative said.
I’m not a naive person
 

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Let me ask you this: If our borders are now so star spangled awesome and secure, then how are the drugs still getting in?

Through regular freight shipments in a Conex on a ship

Or a plane flight

I live where we have a local joke involving bales dropping out airplanes

Drug manna from heaven we say
 

dpic73

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Adding the rest of the post here for those that don't want to click the link.


Admiral Holsey made it clear to Hegseth that he would not follow an unlawful order after dedicating forty years to the #USNavy.

In reaction to the admiral's position, Hegseth threatened to remove Holsey from his command. The discussion escalated and was abruptly concluded.

Shortly after, within fifteen minutes, Pete Hegseth received a resignation letter from Admiral Alvin Holsey.

Recently, members of #Congress have approached Admiral Holsey, asking him to provide testimony regarding the circumstances of his resignation.

Admiral Holsey possesses evidence. He has agreed to testify.

Admiral Holsey Naval Aviator's Badge:
Navy Distinguished Service Medal
Defense Superior Service Medal
Legion of Meritwith four award stars
Defense Meritorious Service Medal
Meritorious Service Medal with award star
Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal with three award stars
Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal
Joint Meritorious Unit Award
Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation
Navy E Ribbon, 1st award
National Defense Service Medal with bronze service star
Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal
Inherent Resolve Campaign Medal
Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal
Global War on Terrorism Service Medal
Armed Forces Service Medal
Navy Sea Service Deployment Ribbon with three bronze service stars
Navy Pistol Marksmanship Ribbon
Command at Sea insignia
Office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Identification Badge
 

yoshi121374

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Adding the rest of the post here for those that don't want to click the link.


Admiral Holsey made it clear to Hegseth that he would not follow an unlawful order after dedicating forty years to the #USNavy.

In reaction to the admiral's position, Hegseth threatened to remove Holsey from his command. The discussion escalated and was abruptly concluded.

Shortly after, within fifteen minutes, Pete Hegseth received a resignation letter from Admiral Alvin Holsey.

Recently, members of #Congress have approached Admiral Holsey, asking him to provide testimony regarding the circumstances of his resignation.

Admiral Holsey possesses evidence. He has agreed to testify.

Admiral Holsey Naval Aviator's Badge:
Navy Distinguished Service Medal
Defense Superior Service Medal
Legion of Meritwith four award stars
Defense Meritorious Service Medal
Meritorious Service Medal with award star
Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal with three award stars
Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal
Joint Meritorious Unit Award
Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation
Navy E Ribbon, 1st award
National Defense Service Medal with bronze service star
Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal
Inherent Resolve Campaign Medal
Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal
Global War on Terrorism Service Medal
Armed Forces Service Medal
Navy Sea Service Deployment Ribbon with three bronze service stars
Navy Pistol Marksmanship Ribbon
Command at Sea insignia
Office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Identification Badge

But Hegseth talks tough and has White Supremacist Tattoos so clearly he knows more.

This also might be why the 6 Dems felt the need to reiterate to soldiers that they have an oath to the Constitution and not any elected official.
 
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dpic73

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But Hegseth talks tough and has White Supremacist Tattoos so clearly he knows more.

This also might be why the 6 Dems felt the need to reiterate to soldiers that they have an oath to the Constitution and not any elected official.
It's absolutely why they did it and look how timely it turned out to be. The more that comes out, the more it looks like these fall under the category of illegal orders. Can you imagine being a career military officer and instead of taking orders from a 4 star general, you're suddenly faced with taking orders to murder people in boats from a cringy FoxNews weekend host accused of rape? They're in a hell of a predicament now and it doesn't appear it's going to get any better unless he's removed.

 

TigerGrowls

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But Hegseth talks tough and has White Supremacist Tattoos so clearly he knows more.

This also might be why the 6 Dems felt the need to reiterate to soldiers that they have an oath to the Constitution and not any elected official.
What kind of white supremacist tatts does Hegseth have yoshi??? Please explain in detail.
 

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What kind of white supremacist tatts does Hegseth have yoshi??? Please explain in detail.
He was dishonorably discharged for having a Deus Vault tat and a Cross with 4 other crosses around it. Both are White supremacist dog whistles.

Deus Vault: The phrase is Latin for "God wills it" and was the battle cry of the First Crusade in the 11th century. While historically a Christian slogan, it has been co-opted in recent years by white supremacists and neo-Nazi groups to invoke a "clash of civilizations" narrative against Muslims and non-white immigrants. It was prominently displayed on banners at the violent 2017 "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville.

Cross: This is a large cross surrounded by four smaller crosses. Hegseth has frequently defended this tattoo as a purely religious symbol representing the spread of the Gospel to the four corners of the earth. Like "Deus Vult," the symbol has legitimate historical roots in Christianity but has also been appropriated by far-right groups as a symbol of Christian nationalism and a desire for a white, Christian ethnostate.

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He was dishonorably discharged for having a Deus Vault tat and a Cross with 4 other crosses around it. Both are White supremacist dog whistles.

Deus Vault: The phrase is Latin for "God wills it" and was the battle cry of the First Crusade in the 11th century. While historically a Christian slogan, it has been co-opted in recent years by white supremacists and neo-Nazi groups to invoke a "clash of civilizations" narrative against Muslims and non-white immigrants. It was prominently displayed on banners at the violent 2017 "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville.

Cross: This is a large cross surrounded by four smaller crosses. Hegseth has frequently defended this tattoo as a purely religious symbol representing the spread of the Gospel to the four corners of the earth. Like "Deus Vult," the symbol has legitimate historical roots in Christianity but has also been appropriated by far-right groups as a symbol of Christian nationalism and a desire for a white, Christian ethnostate.

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The tatt is opinion only. The dishonorable discharge claim is fake news.

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No, Pete Hegseth was not dishonorably discharged; he served honorably, earning medals like the Bronze Star, but he did leave the
Individual Ready Reserve after being flagged as a potential "insider threat" due to a tattoo, and faced scrutiny for past alleged actions (affairs, disobeying orders) that could have led to discharge under military law, which he denied, according to reports from late 2024/early 2025.
 

yoshi121374

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The tatt is opinion only. The dishonorable discharge claim is fake news.

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No, Pete Hegseth was not dishonorably discharged; he served honorably, earning medals like the Bronze Star, but he did leave the
Individual Ready Reserve after being flagged as a potential "insider threat" due to a tattoo, and faced scrutiny for past alleged actions (affairs, disobeying orders) that could have led to discharge under military law, which he denied, according to reports from late 2024/early 2025.

So he resigned because they were going to force him out? That's the position you are trying to take which you think is somehow different?

I notice you didn't refute the white supremacist tats
 
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The tatt is opinion only. The dishonorable discharge claim is fake news.

AI Overview

No, Pete Hegseth was not dishonorably discharged; he served honorably, earning medals like the Bronze Star, but he did leave the
Individual Ready Reserve after being flagged as a potential "insider threat" due to a tattoo, and faced scrutiny for past alleged actions (affairs, disobeying orders) that could have led to discharge under military law, which he denied, according to reports from late 2024/early 2025.
You're correct, he resigned after he was removed from the mission for being a potential insider threat.

You're wrong that the tats are opinion; they're known white supremacist symbols and far more blatant than say.... Tattoos on a potential gang members knuckles
 
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TigerGrowls

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You're correct, he resigned after he was removed from the mission for being a potential insider threat.

You're wrong that the tats are opinion; they're known white supremacist symbols and far more blatant than say.... Tattoos on a potential gang members knuckles
Disagree.
 

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Disagree.

Disagree. He was attacked due to being with Trump. He took one for Trump.
I understand this is what you believe, but it's opinion and not fact on both regards.

While he's denied what the tats represent, you're quite inconsistent in your assessment of their meaning, because he's MAGA.

You claimed the ms13 tats were gang related and the tats on the Democrat politician from a few weeks ago were nazi symbolism. You didn't defend either of those in the same way you're defending hegseth.

You know I gots love for ya, but It's inconsistent and hypocritical