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HappyBlue

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not be allowed at least one mistake and one chance to fix that mistake? Pope made a mistake on picking the right players this year. Give him the chance to fix that in his 3rd year, if he can't fix it, then he needs to go. I just can't believe that a coach in his 1st year playing in the toughest league in the history of basketball and was able to put together a whole new team on short notice and had a team that if not for injuries could have won it all, just forgot how to coach.

And anybody that thinks last years team if healthy could not have won it all is delusional.
 

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not be allowed at least one mistake and one chance to fix that mistake? Pope made a mistake on picking the right players this year. Give him the chance to fix that in his 3rd year, if he can't fix it, then he needs to go. I just can't believe that a coach in his 1st year playing in the toughest league in the history of basketball and was able to put together a whole new team on short notice and had a team that if not for injuries could have won it all, just forgot how to coach.

And anybody that thinks last years team if healthy could not have won it all is delusional.
Posts like this give me hope for the fanbase. A little anyway
 

Monday Nitro

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not be allowed at least one mistake and one chance to fix that mistake? Pope made a mistake on picking the right players this year. Give him the chance to fix that in his 3rd year, if he can't fix it, then he needs to go. I just can't believe that a coach in his 1st year playing in the toughest league in the history of basketball and was able to put together a whole new team on short notice and had a team that if not for injuries could have won it all, just forgot how to coach.

And anybody that thinks last years team if healthy could not have won it all is delusional.
Not in this “I want to be entertained and I want it now” world we live in.
 

KyKevin

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Can he handle the pressure of a fanbase and boosters who want him gone? What has he done that has shown you he has the ability to thrive under the microscope of a fanbase that expects better?


Did you read his post? He did explain why Pope deserves a third year.
I would bet money, no coach, none, could come to Kentucky and turn it all around in the time Pope has had, NO COACH period.
And if they did, I will gladly pay my bet.
 

HappyBlue

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Can he handle the pressure of a fanbase and boosters who want him gone? What has he done that has shown you he has the ability to thrive under the microscope of a fanbase that expects better?
That is the whole point of my post, give the man at least one chance to show us he is the guy. I saw a lot of people on here that said we should have went after Todd Golden. His 1st year at Florida he went 16-17(NIT), 2nd year he went 24-12(round of 64), 3rd year title. And this year he is 9-5. How many fans would have been calling for his head after year 1? Or maybe after year 2?
 

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Did you read his post? He did explain why Pope deserves a third year.
I would bet money, no coach, none, could come to Kentucky and turn it all around in the time Pope has had, NO COACH period.
And if they did, I will gladly pay my bet.
Let’s just ignore all the other coaches who are in their 2nd year and currently in the top 10 or 20.

Look at football with much larger rosters, Curt Cignetti was hired in the same year as Pope and guess who is the favorite to win the CFP?
 

HappyBlue

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Let’s just ignore all the other coaches who are in their 2nd year and currently in the top 10 or 20.

Look at football with much larger rosters, Curt Cignetti was hired in the same year as Pope and guess who is the favorite to win the CFP?
Ooh, that is fun game, let me play.

Let's just ignore all the coaches that it took at least 3 years to get things going. Look at Dan Hurley, hell look at Nate Oats, his 3rd year he went 19-14. Yes some teams won the lottery and got a coach that won right away, UK won the lottery when they hired Calipari. The problem is some UK fans think we can win the lottery every time we play and want us to keep playing the lottery until we are broke.
 

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Ooh, that is fun game, let me play.

Let's just ignore all the coaches that it took at least 3 years to get things going. Look at Dan Hurley, hell look at Nate Oats, his 3rd year he went 19-14. Yes some teams won the lottery and got a coach that won right away, UK won the lottery when they hired Calipari. The problem is some UK fans think we can win the lottery every time we play and want us to keep playing the lottery until we are broke.
Why ignore that those coaches were hired at their respective programs before NIL and the transfer portal were even a thing?
 

JimboBBN

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In the era of the NIL and portal, you need to be winning in year two. Pope isn’t just losing, he’s getting humiliated.

The days of waiting for coaches and players to develop is long gone. I know that’s hard for a lot to accept but it is reality. Kentucky gives you more resources for basketball than any other school in the country. Zero excuses for this poor basketball team. It’s all on Pope and if it costs him, he can look in the mirror.
 

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not be allowed at least one mistake and one chance to fix that mistake? Pope made a mistake on picking the right players this year. Give him the chance to fix that in his 3rd year, if he can't fix it, then he needs to go. I just can't believe that a coach in his 1st year playing in the toughest league in the history of basketball and was able to put together a whole new team on short notice and had a team that if not for injuries could have won it all, just forgot how to coach.

And anybody that thinks last years team if healthy could not have won it all is delusional.
Clemson, Ohio St, Bama, Vandy…all losses with the full roster. Two of them big time head scratchers. Countless other blowouts with starters out. Sure, they COULD have won it all, but it was pretty unlikely they’d even reach a final 4. Clemson and tOSU gave the rest of CBB a scout in how to beat Pope and his soft AF style.

As far as building from nothing, most teams do that very thing every single season. Coaching change or not. It’s a different time. That’s just an excuse.

Btw, building a completely terrible roster, then coaching it horribly, all to the tune of one of (if not THE) biggest payrolls in the sport is a tad more than “one mistake”. This whole season has been a multitude of mistakes. Outside of playing nice guy with some autographs after beating a patsy, Pope hasn’t really done one damned thing correct this season. So it’s quite a bit more than “one mistake”.
 

UKBB4Ever

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Did you read his post? He did explain why Pope deserves a third year.
I would bet money, no coach, none, could come to Kentucky and turn it all around in the time Pope has had, NO COACH period.
And if they did, I will gladly pay my bet.
So just not competing and embarrassing the brand doesn’t matter?

Pope wasn’t boo’ed out of Bridgestone because of the loss.

He wasn’t boo’ed in Rupp because we were losing to IU.

I read somewhere that Pope is 17-17 against P5 teams.

No player is getting better. Some have regressed.

Even if we get lucky and win some games the foundation is broken.

The team has no identity. Unless soft is one?

The team has no offensive identity. The team has no defensive identity.

The team is never prepared to play. If there is a scouting report it’s ignored. That’s both seasons.

The Pope experiment is over.

But we have no idea when it will end. I’m quite sure Mitch won’t fire him.
 

Kyfan27

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He'll get a third year and probably should. Sometimes coaches will simply miss in the portal and your team just isn't that good. That is something most rational fans can live with. However the problem I have and most people have are the basics. You don't have to be talented to play hard. Pope has been down by 20 eight times since he's been here. Why? He looks lost and obviously recruiting is a problem so we can't even look forward to next season. Maybe he knows there's nothing he can do to fix this team and is demoralized, but again you can still show some fire and make your team play hard.
 

UKWildcats1987

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Last years team got down big to Duke and Gonzaga before pulling miracle wins out their ***. And so on. I think its a large possibility we would have gotten down big n sweet 16 regardless of health and not been able to pull it out. Certainly healthy would have improved odds but don't think we would have been top 5 favorites heading into ncaa regardless.

I agree he should get a 3rd year but he clearly can't prepare a team to be ready at tipoff and has no answers for losses post game. He seems n over his head immensely.
 

Eagles_Ball_69

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Did you read his post? He did explain why Pope deserves a third year.
I would bet money, no coach, none, could come to Kentucky and turn it all around in the time Pope has had, NO COACH period.
And if they did, I will gladly pay my bet.
Dusty May seems to have it figured out at Michigan. In yr two. And he took over a far worse situation at Michigan. Then again, I guess you somehow think it’s easier to do at Michigan? Mark Byington seems to be doing just fine at effing Vandy. Cal at Arky. Miss at USC. I mean, hell, they all seem to be in a helluva lot better spot than Popes clueless a$$.
 

Eagles_Ball_69

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That is the whole point of my post, give the man at least one chance to show us he is the guy. I saw a lot of people on here that said we should have went after Todd Golden. His 1st year at Florida he went 16-17(NIT), 2nd year he went 24-12(round of 64), 3rd year title. And this year he is 9-5. How many fans would have been calling for his head after year 1? Or maybe after year 2?
Golden seems to have a trajectory. That kind of matters.
 

HappyBlue

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Because it doesn’t fit a pumpers agenda
Wanting to give a guy at least one chance is a pumper? I would rather be that than like some of you other fans:
Give It To Me Want GIF
 

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Wanting to give a guy at least one chance is a pumper? I would rather be that than like some of you other fans:
Give It To Me Want GIF
What exactly are we looking forward to in year 3? Where are the “superstars” we were promised from Pope? We currently have 0 high school recruits. Stokes is looking like another loss for us.

Do we want the current guys on the team to come back? Most of them don’t even act like they want to be here. They sure as heck don’t care. So Pope kicks off all the players on the team, which he won’t do, and now we’re starting all over again in the portal, hoping that somehow Pope can match his 24-12, 6th place SEC finish and a blowout loss to Tennessee in the Sweet 16 from his 1st year in his 3rd year? Is that all we got to look forward to?

Everyone is miserable. Pope is miserable, fans are miserable and I’m sure boosters and Pope’s family are miserable. The only reason Pope comes back is to collect a paycheck. It sure as heck isn’t to win anything.
 

HappyBlue

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Ok say we fire Pope and the next coach doesn't win enough his first or 2nd year and we fire that coach and then the next coach doesn't win enough in year 1 or 2 and we fire that coach. Is that all we got to look forward to?
72415 GIF
 

UKBB4Ever

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Ok say we fire Pope and the next coach doesn't win enough his first or 2nd year and we fire that coach and then the next coach doesn't win enough in year 1 or 2 and we fire that coach. Is that all we got to look forward to?
72415 GIF
Yes

No reason to compound a mistake if you make one.

It’s better end the mistake and cry once than to do nothing and cry everyday.
 
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I'm still a supporter but yesterday was an unforgiveable head scratcher. We might not be loaded but we have plenty of talent to compete with probably any team out there. So, it's not a lack of talent that we watched yesterday. It was the clear lack of preparation and lack of taking any corrective measures that we all saw were needed, desperately. Simple things that most all of us could see, he allowed over and over on defense. The lack of offence was to be expected to some degree but the lack of movement away from the ball and the ineptitude of pretty much everyone on the floor was obvious. Too obvious! It starts with ball movement on offence and ends with inside the opposing team chasing, leaving guys open, inside or out. Better ball movement and shots will fall better as well as getting the ball to the post without having guys draped on our interior players. Our bigs should've controlled this game but the O just never did anything to force their D into mistakes. We put zero pressure on their defense.

But defense is what killed us and it was simple stuff that is correctable, but still has not been addressed yet...and we're fully healthy now. JQ should have never left the paint. Somebody else has to rotate to make sure that doesn't happen, period...for now. Drop coverage and going under screens is unforgiveable against a 3pt shooting team at this point, especially when we have played decent defense a couple of times recently. I hoped those issues were fixed but we reverted back to zero discipline on defense and poor coaching. Why did Pope not call t/o and put players in that wanted to be there? He intentionally had our rim protector playing away from the basket all game long. JQ hasn't had the reps yet to put him in that position as well as the pressure that put on everyone else trying to switch out everything when he was drawn out of the paint. Pretty much the same thing against Bellarmine. I don't get this team at all. Yes, I put all of it on the coach for not making adjustments and for not having them ready by now. This is Jr High level stuff imo.
 
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Ukwazoo3

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He'll get a third year. Unless he emotionally collapses or some giant scandal pops off. After that, his daddy Mitch will be gone. So he better pick it up.
 

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1 player mistake is one mistake. 7 is 7 mistakes. The bigger problem is there’s no ball movement, no shooting and inconsistent effort.
 

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not be allowed at least one mistake and one chance to fix that mistake? Pope made a mistake on picking the right players this year. Give him the chance to fix that in his 3rd year, if he can't fix it, then he needs to go. I just can't believe that a coach in his 1st year playing in the toughest league in the history of basketball and was able to put together a whole new team on short notice and had a team that if not for injuries could have won it all, just forgot how to coach.

And anybody that thinks last years team if healthy could not have won it all is delusional.
I suspect Pope will get a third year even if we finish last in the SEC (perish that thought). That said when the last time you've seen accurate comments like this from Issel? And similar statements from other UK notables?:(
 

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He will get a third year and I’m okay with that. His first year team was a pleasant surprise. But I’m worried since he hasn’t signed a freshman yet and I see most of this team transferring.
 
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Ok, so during the coaching search UK needs to let candidates know that if they don't make a FF by year 2 they will be fired?
No. And I didn’t say that all.

But you could tell them that they actually have to coach here to keep the job.

But any coach you would have to tell that to should not be hired.

I guess you would tell them they could just mail it in because we don’t want to be seen as someone that would fire a coach?
 
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I’m not giving up on this year. Just got the whole healthy. Need to get a core 5 and stick with it. Let them bond. Too much subbing now. Lowe OO JQ Mo and Williams. Sub off that group.
Play some zones particularly against good guards to stop dribble penetration and the high pick.
Press more at the start of both halves to get moving.
We still have time to get on a roll. I’ve seen it before.
 

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The intention with which Pope built the roster seems to be on point. He may have failed to get the right players or fit of players, but history suggests that the most important component of building a program capable of being in the hunt for a title year-in-and-year-out is having a foundation of returning players. Whether stars, key role players, or solid bench depth, returning players – especially if they are leaders and provide your best player - are key. Pope and most other CBB coaches and commentators understand the data. Actually being able to pull it off by getting the right players and mix is, of course, much harder.

But it does look like Pope was trying to put this roster construction model in place with 2 Seniors, 4 Juniors, 4 Sophomores, and 4 Freshmen (it would have been 5 freshmen if Lewis hadn’t bailed). Just like freshmen, the best from transfers often comes in the 2nd year (perhaps owing to familiarity and comfortability with the coach, system, points of emphasis, their role, and even the place); and UK’s roster is set up for a mass of returning players next season.

I think UK could probably lose a few of those players and pick up a couple of top players and be a contender next season. However, that still doesn’t answer the question of whether Pope is the guy that can make it all work. He has to get those top players - and I’m not talking about OAD freshmen, although I think an OAD freshman being a key component is ok if he is your 2nd or 3rd best player.
 
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not be allowed at least one mistake and one chance to fix that mistake? Pope made a mistake on picking the right players this year. Give him the chance to fix that in his 3rd year, if he can't fix it, then he needs to go. I just can't believe that a coach in his 1st year playing in the toughest league in the history of basketball and was able to put together a whole new team on short notice and had a team that if not for injuries could have won it all, just forgot how to coach.

And anybody that thinks last years team if healthy could not have won it all is delusional.
I appreciate the post. It seems you may be a more optimistic-leaning person and are looking for ways it can still work. Yes, I believe every coach can misevaluate and bring in the wrong players for their system. I absolutely believe Pope exceeded expectations in Year 1, but we didn’t have a good enough defense to be a true title contender. Year 2 has been a hard go it and I’m willing to ignore the issues on offense, because we already know he can coach offense. However, even with a top-tier lineup of defenders, we currently sit at 30th in defensive efficiency. I unapologetically WANT it to work with Pope, badly. I don’t care about recruiting rankings — I care about answering the question: Can Pope coach defense? It’s trending toward looking like by year 2, he will have coached zero defenses good enough to be title contender. No matter much I like the coach, the job is to win. To win me over again, and trust me I’d love him to, he absolutely has to finish the year with a top 20 defense. If he doesn’t do that, why lie to myself? We will never win a title if he can’t coach defense.
 

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What exactly are we looking forward to in year 3? Where are the “superstars” we were promised from Pope? We currently have 0 high school recruits. Stokes is looking like another loss for us.

Do we want the current guys on the team to come back? Most of them don’t even act like they want to be here. They sure as heck don’t care. So Pope kicks off all the players on the team, which he won’t do, and now we’re starting all over again in the portal, hoping that somehow Pope can match his 24-12, 6th place SEC finish and a blowout loss to Tennessee in the Sweet 16 from his 1st year in his 3rd year? Is that all we got to look forward to?

Everyone is miserable. Pope is miserable, fans are miserable and I’m sure boosters and Pope’s family are miserable. The only reason Pope comes back is to collect a paycheck. It sure as heck isn’t to win anything.
He’s getting a paycheck if he’s let go.
 

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In the era of the NIL and portal, you need to be winning in year two. Pope isn’t just losing, he’s getting humiliated.

The days of waiting for coaches and players to develop is long gone. I know that’s hard for a lot to accept but it is reality. Kentucky gives you more resources for basketball than any other school in the country. Zero excuses for this poor basketball team. It’s all on Pope and if it costs him, he can look in the mirror.
More resources? Not anymore. That's the problem.
 
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I understand the frustration with the fanbase.
I understand that Pope deserves a third year. I clearly expect he will get it, unless he resigns because the pressure is bothering him and his family.
What I do not understand is how, based on his prior head coaching experience and record, it is reasonable to expect that he can turn things around.
It just seems to me that he has never experienced, at any level, the kind of success that Kentucky fans want and essentially demand.
It's that lack of success that is most worrisome and concerning, as regards his potential for getting the program where everyone wants it to be.
Having said all of that, he has been hired and deserves the chance, it seems to me.
I feel sorry for Pope. This is beginning to look like a script for a movie that doesn't end well.
Just trying to be honest and fair to all concerned ...
 
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I understand the frustration with the fanbase.
I understand that Pope deserves a third year. I clearly expect he will get it, unless he resigns because the pressure is bothering him and his family.
What I do not understand is how, based on his prior head coaching experience and record, it is reasonable to expect that he can turn things around.
It just seems to me that he has never experienced, at any level, the kind of success that Kentucky fans want and essentially demand.
It's that lack of success that is most worrisome and concerning, as regards his potential for getting the program where everyone wants it to be.
Having said all of that, he has been hired and deserves the chance, it seems to me.
I feel sorry for Pope. This is beginning to look like a script for a movie that doesn't end well.
Just trying to be honest and fair to all concerned ...
I feel the same way. It kills me just a bit inside knowing how much he loves the school and yet he’s struggling so much.
 

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Ooh, that is fun game, let me play.

Let's just ignore all the coaches that it took at least 3 years to get things going. Look at Dan Hurley, hell look at Nate Oats, his 3rd year he went 19-14. Yes some teams won the lottery and got a coach that won right away, UK won the lottery when they hired Calipari. The problem is some UK fans think we can win the lottery every time we play and want us to keep playing the lottery until we are broke.
Mark Pope won a $22 million lottery and hasn't shown anything for it on the floor, and doesn't look like he will get any big time recruits.