I don't care at all. But when someone double downs on a idiotic statement maybe you should talk to them. Football fans that don't understand the Red shirt rule shouldn't call out people that give actual facts!
Simon deserves some reps
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From Wiki.
“The term redshirt freshman indicates an academic sophomore who is in their first season of athletic participation. A redshirt freshman is distinguished from a true freshman: a student who is in their first year both academically and athletically. A redshirt freshman may have practiced during the prior season. The term redshirt sophomore is also commonly used to indicate an academic junior who is in the second season of athletic participation. After the second athletic year, the term redshirt is rarely used; the terms fourth-year junior and fifth-year senior are used instead. A student who has been in college for more than four years, or is a graduate student, may referred to as a super senior.”
Wimsatt is in his academic junior year. Two more years of eligibility after this year. Would it actually surprise you if RU screwed up the roster designation? Um, care to double down again?
“The term redshirt freshman indicates an academic sophomore who is in their first season of athletic participation. A redshirt freshman is distinguished from a true freshman: a student who is in their first year both academically and athletically. A redshirt freshman may have practiced during the prior season. The term redshirt sophomore is also commonly used to indicate an academic junior who is in the second season of athletic participation. After the second athletic year, the term redshirt is rarely used; the terms fourth-year junior and fifth-year senior are used instead. A student who has been in college for more than four years, or is a graduate student, may referred to as a super senior.”
Wimsatt is in his academic junior year. Two more years of eligibility after this year. Would it actually surprise you if RU screwed up the roster designation? Um, care to double down again?
No, you are a moronic reactionary. He is a redshirt soph with 2 years of eligibility. He will be a redshirt Jr in 2024 and and a redshirt Sr in 2025. Truly Pathetic.
Nice try old man. Too funny .
I’ll say obe last time - this argument you guys are having is silly. Seems you both agree he has two years after this - so why the argument / name calling? Weird .
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Jesus. A sophomore who did not Red shirt is a sophomore. A guy who is in his 3rd year and red shirted at any point is a Red shirt Junior meaning he has 2 years eligiblity after his 3rd year.
Try? Try what? I'm guessing you thought he was a red shirt sophomore and feel embarrassed by your own stupidity
Your authoritative source is?
Heck I admit when I’m wrong. I’m also married so I’ll admit to it even when I’m not.
I had no opinion. I have said a number of times that I think the whole argument is silly.
I hope you find some happiness cause you are sadly angry
Authoritative source?? Try common sense for football fans. Try Rutgers Football Roster. Try @RUTBAY1 Wiki definition. Read what you posted. Give me any source that says GW is not a red shirt Junior. There is none!
I'm not angry. Sad you defend stupid people as you in your mind thought they were correct
Once again whitebus not defending anyone. I never took a position on the soph vs jr thing. Couldn’t care less. But I’ve seen your posts - all your do is argue and name call. It’s kind of sad. I understand you’re an older guy. You come across quite clearly as a super angry old man. I hope you find happiness in the time you have left
Lol I'm guessing the coaches watch practice...we all sawm Simon throw multiple ints and bad balls last year. Maybe he improved tremendously, you think the coaches don't want to win? Why would they not play Simon if he was better than wimsatt?
Redshirt sophomore and Third year sophomore are one and the same. 2 years of eligibility left.
Redshirt junior has one year left after the season.
Redshirt junior has one year left after the season.
Coaches never make mistakes?
10 for 25
Interceptions have absolutely killed us.
At what point is worst completion rate in college football not a problem?
10 for 25
Interceptions have absolutely killed us.
At what point is worst completion rate in college football not a problem?
Do we Not count his running ability and ability to run the read option?
Running ability is fine but running the read option?? Has not done that at all.
Can’t ignore the awful turnovers and wide open misses. Greg Schiano teams win by making less errors. 12-1 when we win the turnover battle.
All three losses bad interceptions.
10 for 25
Completion rate %
I think we all agree on that. I'd love to have Michael penix jr or JJ mcarthy at qb. So your solution is to remove Gavin and insert sumon. If you noticed the delay in all of the handoffs, you'd have to scratch the option Simon is not a threat to take it 80 yds to the house. Monangai would have to run into more honest defensive pursuit..hard to lean on the run game when they know what's coming. So you're going to be running your offense through the passing game. Like I said maybe Evan Simon has improved, but think about the weapons Rutgers QBs have at their disposal. Do they have 6 wins this year as a passaling team with Simon and these receivers? Also notice how all the players gravitate towards Gavin, even Evan Simon, you think the team would respond well to him being benched when they are playing the best they've ever played while they've been at Rutgers? I need to stop coming to this board after games omg
Vs Indy I thought he made strides in his running game.. well, I mean his scrambling game. He seemed to finally get teh idea that when you decide to get out of a situation do it like the place suddenly caught fire.. move those feet quickly... no more of these casual long strides.. quick short steps under control where you can adjust quickly.
But today he seemed to have lost some of that. Still did well with legs... but he loses yards because he leans/dives too early. he dives forward to avoid hits but he takes hits anyway.. so keep the legs chopping at first contact.. don't anticipate contact and dive.. anticipate making them miss and when you get hit roll with it.. keep the legs chopping. That star RB in the backfield does it every damn time. Learn from him. If he is a running QB.. let him work with teh running backs awhile.. I cannot imagine the RB coach being okay with how he finishes runs. He has lost at least half a dozen first downs like that over the last 3 games or so.
I like GW.. I think he can get there. You can't teach that arm.. but hopefully you can teach the footwork needed to be consistent.
We are a bowl team with GW... but if he improves as he should.. we could have won today and then we'd be talking scenarios where we could play in the Big Ten Championship game. I think he can get there... BUT...
GW's running made little difference in this game. His passing made a negative difference.. at least in the first half. We'd have been better off with a more accurate pocket passer who doesn't run.. like the guy on the other side, McCord, who is a Rutgers legacy who wanted to come to Rutgers.. at least at one point. We chased off pocket passers with the last OC... but had we taken a good one years ago we might have won today.
Or saw Simon come in one series in Wisconsin and throw a TD?
Turnovers are usually the key to the game and three in the three losses have all been crucial.
Maybe a more accurate passing game equally opens up the running lanes for Kyle.
Hard to overlook the turnovers and the lowest completion rate. Those aren’t fair topics for discussion? Maybe you really shouldn’t come on the board after a tough loss. OMG
We saw Simon play last year and the receivers at Rutgers are not elite. A walk on is the no. 1 receiver...Simon threw a TD after Gavin lead a drive down to the Red zone...Simon through multiple bad passes and interceptions when he had full games as a starter last year. Coaches saw him again this year named Gavin as a starter, team has had its best season in a decade and are now bowl eligible...you stick with Gavin and develop him so you have a QB with big 10 experience next year. But I understand you need something to discuss so my bad have at it..lol but yeah
To be clear, I’m not saying Simon should be the starter. I’m saying he should be involved in the game and given a chance. 10/25 no matter who you’re playing is unacceptable. And stats like that are not an anomaly for GW, it’s par for the course for him against good competition despite having an NFL running back and solid o line. Unacceptable
Gavin had equally bad games last year. Have you seen any improvement in accuracy? Defense and Kyle and Special teams have been stellar.
Turnovers… bad interceptions have killed us in all three losses.
Missing wide open Wrs hurt us.
10 for 25 hurt us.
Experience for the sake of experience is silly.
Could have had an all time upset win today.
Certainly fair discussion and not I shouldn’t come on a board and read omg!
Read Politi’s fine commentary on the game.
SMH
What we've gotten from Wimsatt this year isn't enough for the program to take the next step. In general, RU will be looking to get more out of the QB spot. But I don't think yanking Wimsatt is smart at all. Not need to make a switch for another mediocre QB without the gamebreaking running ability.
That's his thing. He's belligerent and throws the stupid insult around a lot. I have him on ignore. It's unfortunate, because on occasion, he makes some very insightful and great posts. Don't take his insults personally. You are an awesome poster.
Simon would give us nothing on the ground and would end up taking a bunch of sacks. His arm ain’t that much better than Gavin’s to offset all that.
Redshirt soph. He only played in 3 games in 2021.
Another one ugh! So you are saying that, not only I'm wrong but so are Rutgers, ESPN and this very site Rivals are all wrong too??
He is a red shirt Junior. Which means he is academically a Junior and he red shirted a year so he has 2 years of eligibility left after this season. That's how it works. You are simple and wrong.
Wimsatt is actually winning me over. He’s getting better imo. He does miss early a lot. I think he’s a little amped up early in games even though Greg says he’s even keeled I think early the adrenaline is pumping a little too much. He makes some sensational throws and some very good ones. He’s got a really good arm. His running is getting better too. He’s stronger. I think he will continue to get stronger and continue to get better. A lot of his incompletions are because nobody is open. He’s probably being coached not to force and to throw it away. It’s pretty obvious. Unfortunately he hasn’t thrown it away a couple times he should have (or gone to second read) and it cost us badly. Hopefully he learns from it. I think he will because he’s definitely learning which means he listens.
Simon? Not sure what anyone has seen from him to think he's an upgrade over GW.
GW can be less than desired as a passer but still our best option each week.
If anyone needs to get snaps now it's Shepard.
Not to replace GW but to get him experience just for good roster management for next year.
GW can be less than desired as a passer but still our best option each week.
If anyone needs to get snaps now it's Shepard.
Not to replace GW but to get him experience just for good roster management for next year.