So Bruiser, does losing by 30 at home count as "lost focus"?
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"AK will take over the state of Mississippi" posts that were floating around 12 months ago. I'd file them right next to my "Spurlock will be better than Eli" collection.
Hey Andy, gettin' any?
Hey Andy, gettin' any?
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who predicted AK would pass Stans' program this year.
In case you've been on another planet..... our three best players are out for the year with knee injuries. If you took the best three off of any team in America, very few would be very good at all.
For example.... if Varnardo, Raven Johnson and your point guard all were out for the season.... how good would the Bulldogs be this year?
If you can't understand that, I can't help you.
With Gaskins, Warren and Polynice, I think OM would have won twelve SEC games this year and won the West. Take one of those away and OM would have still been solid. Take all three away and I think we'll go about 3-13 in the SEC.
The entire team returns next year, and the three best players will rejoin their team mates.
Good luck to the Dogs this year! You guys are really playing well!
In case you've been on another planet..... our three best players are out for the year with knee injuries. If you took the best three off of any team in America, very few would be very good at all.
For example.... if Varnardo, Raven Johnson and your point guard all were out for the season.... how good would the Bulldogs be this year?
If you can't understand that, I can't help you.
With Gaskins, Warren and Polynice, I think OM would have won twelve SEC games this year and won the West. Take one of those away and OM would have still been solid. Take all three away and I think we'll go about 3-13 in the SEC.
The entire team returns next year, and the three best players will rejoin their team mates.
Good luck to the Dogs this year! You guys are really playing well!
How about an OM player saying this is today's CL
Let's see....it's not a distraction, except for when it distracts us. Man, you would have to be crazy to think all the crap going on with AK wasn't a distraction. Can't wait to hear your defense of AK-Gate now Bruiser.
And if you can't understand that your bball program has a bigger issues than three knee injuries, then I can't help you. Keep the blinders on OM....keep 'em on.
you predicted that Ole Miss's program would pass a coach that has won 4 West titles, been to 5 NCAA tourneys, won an SEC tournament championship, and an SEC overall title?
What are they serving at A.J.'s nowadays?
I guess your football program also passed Auburn's and Tennessee's this year.
What are they serving at A.J.'s nowadays?
I guess your football program also passed Auburn's and Tennessee's this year.
I think you spent one too many days out in the sun down in Destin, there, Bob.
Here's what you don't get: Ole Miss being ****** in basketball is actually a return to normalcy.
Here's what you don't get: Ole Miss being ****** in basketball is actually a return to normalcy.
He's got better credentials. And I am in firm agreement with you regarding our hoops program being nowhere near as good as y'alls in terms of talent, support, expectations, but that doesn't make his claim baseless.
of course Bianco had passed Polk. He put together 7-8 seasons that had Ole Miss consistently on a different level than State.
Kennedy has not even taken Ole Miss to 1 NCAA tournament. Stans took us last year, yet in one year AK was going to pass our program?
His claim is completely baseless.
Edited to add: Not only is it baseless, its one of the most ridiculous things I've seen someone post in a while.
Kennedy has not even taken Ole Miss to 1 NCAA tournament. Stans took us last year, yet in one year AK was going to pass our program?
His claim is completely baseless.
Edited to add: Not only is it baseless, its one of the most ridiculous things I've seen someone post in a while.
that got so mad about State fans' excitement over Cohen b/c he hasn't coached a game yet? Yet you are defending a guy for doing way more than getting excited about Kennedy despite the fact that he has coached games and hasn't sniffed the bubble?
Once Kennedy stops losing to Auburn in Oxford, maybe he can get started on going after Stansbury's accomplishments.
Once Kennedy stops losing to Auburn in Oxford, maybe he can get started on going after Stansbury's accomplishments.
DestinBob said:
You had those same players last year - plus Curtis in the middle. And you finished 5 games behind MSU in the standings - in a 16 game season. Kennedy was a nutcase when you hired him and he's more of one now. Tried to tell you people he was a terrible hire. I've never seen an entire fan base that knows less about a major sport.
You are a loser. That same analogy could have been thrown out by us during Football losing Brown,Johnson,Chaney ,Elliot and Green. But no way in Hell our Fanbase would listen and damn sure Ole Miss did not want to hear that excuse for our problems. EAT ****
Rebheaded Stranger said:
And he's UAB's problem now. At least we got another Omaha parting gift out of him in the last years.
Our basketball season is over. As I've said before, the rest of our season this year is just a set of glorified scrimmages to try to get our freshmen ready for next year.
I actually went to the game yesterday, and I can say that the team just didn't look like they wanted to play. Not sure what it was, but they just were not all there. When you're playing as many young guys as we are though, you're going to have days like that, and you're going to have days where they surprise you and look good.
Again though, it's not about wins and losses this year. It's about developing players for next year. Any wins we get are gravy.
As far as Kennedy is concerned, like I said, I'm glad that any distractions are happening this year and not next when we actually have a shot to do something.
I still think we should be in the NCAA tourney next year, and we will be one of the favorites in the West. That all depends on us getting and staying relatively healthy of course. As many on Nafoom were pointing out, the silver lining with our injuries is that guys like Graham, Terrico White, Holloway, etc. are having to learn how to be more than just role players, and that should benefit us next year when we hopefully have everyone back healthy.
I actually went to the game yesterday, and I can say that the team just didn't look like they wanted to play. Not sure what it was, but they just were not all there. When you're playing as many young guys as we are though, you're going to have days like that, and you're going to have days where they surprise you and look good.
Again though, it's not about wins and losses this year. It's about developing players for next year. Any wins we get are gravy.
As far as Kennedy is concerned, like I said, I'm glad that any distractions are happening this year and not next when we actually have a shot to do something.
I still think we should be in the NCAA tourney next year, and we will be one of the favorites in the West. That all depends on us getting and staying relatively healthy of course. As many on Nafoom were pointing out, the silver lining with our injuries is that guys like Graham, Terrico White, Holloway, etc. are having to learn how to be more than just role players, and that should benefit us next year when we hopefully have everyone back healthy.
RebelBruiser said:
A lot of it is the inconsistency youth brings. Another big part of it is they are playing for a lame duck coach. How this clown is coaching that team right now is one of the biggest head scratchers I've ever seen in college sports.
Ol Blue said:
Have you spoken with Pete Boone? Reason I ask is I have a family member that speaks with him fairly regularly, and he's said nothing to indicate that Kennedy won't be back next year. I'm just curious where you're getting the lame duck idea.
Also, let me add that the best thing going for our basketball team right now was our past football season and the hype about our upcoming football season. Most Ole Miss fans just aren't all that upset or concerned with what happens this basketball season. They all, like me, understand it's going to be inconsistent and mostly bad. And having football to talk about well into January and all off-season helps take the focus away from it.
RebelBruiser said:
I haven't spoken with anybody, but common sense tells me that once this thing shakes out, they would be stupid to bring him back. Of course they are stupid for letting him coach right now, so I wouldn't put anything past him. Hell, they were stupid for hiring him in the first place. I actually hope they keep him because I think he sucks, but I don't see how they do.
You don't know? Really? I mean could it be.. just maybe...just maaaaaaayyyyyybe.. that Kennedy's actions in Cincinnati and the charges, arrest, lawsuits, countersuits, amendments to lawsuits, and negative attention at every turn could somehow.. in some way.. be related to the performance of the staff and team as a whole? I mean i'm really going out on a limb here.RebelBruiser said:
we lost our best player as an early draft entry, and a major contributor to a transfer, so blah blah blah blah......
The IF game is fun but it doesn't really mean ****, does it?
The IF game is fun but it doesn't really mean ****, does it?
not to get in a pissing match but Boone might not be your family's best source for "next year" at Ole Miss.... I know some pretty big Ole Miss people that would tell you Boone's likelihood to be back is less than AK. Or maybe they just hope so...who knows.
Personally, I don't think they will do anything to AK unless he loses his trial and the appeal so that is 2 years away probably.
Personally, I don't think they will do anything to AK unless he loses his trial and the appeal so that is 2 years away probably.
why don't you just come out and say that you're a football school anyway and don't care? Then when you make your "run" next year, you can go back to caring about basketball.
Typical. I don't know if anyone saw the Ole Miss website write up, but it was something to the effect of LSU defeats Rebels, Cotton Bowl Champs honored. No kidding. I'm paraphrasing for the Rebels who are about to nitpick this to death.
Also, I'd be kind of worried about all of these basketball players with knee injuries. It seems like basketball players are kind of like horses- once they mess their leg up, you might as well shoot them. I don't know why that is, but all of you Ole Miss people expecting Warren and Polynice to be just like they were before might be in for a rude surprise. You can't tell me that tearing an ACL isn't going to affect their leaping ability. Plus the fact that they are running on hard wood floors- in a building with a leaky roof no less, which adds risk- which won't give like grass or field turf. But don't worry- you can dust off Anthony Boone's knee braces and Warren and Polynice can flop and play hurt just like Boone did ad nauseum while your best free throw shooter takes his shots and then they can "miraculously" return to the game after the free throws. And even if the officials do catch on, they won't say anything because who's going to call out a guy with knee braces going from his waist to his shoe?
Typical. I don't know if anyone saw the Ole Miss website write up, but it was something to the effect of LSU defeats Rebels, Cotton Bowl Champs honored. No kidding. I'm paraphrasing for the Rebels who are about to nitpick this to death.
Also, I'd be kind of worried about all of these basketball players with knee injuries. It seems like basketball players are kind of like horses- once they mess their leg up, you might as well shoot them. I don't know why that is, but all of you Ole Miss people expecting Warren and Polynice to be just like they were before might be in for a rude surprise. You can't tell me that tearing an ACL isn't going to affect their leaping ability. Plus the fact that they are running on hard wood floors- in a building with a leaky roof no less, which adds risk- which won't give like grass or field turf. But don't worry- you can dust off Anthony Boone's knee braces and Warren and Polynice can flop and play hurt just like Boone did ad nauseum while your best free throw shooter takes his shots and then they can "miraculously" return to the game after the free throws. And even if the officials do catch on, they won't say anything because who's going to call out a guy with knee braces going from his waist to his shoe?
WalkTheDawg said:
That theory would be fine, but why wouldn't it have effected the team in making a strong second half effort against Florida and making a strong effort against Arkansas? Even if it is effecting the team now, it really doesn't matter to me, because we won't be in the post-season with or without distractions. The end result is the same.
Seriously, this basketball season, as far as wins and losses, is over for me and most Ole Miss fans. I'll watch to see how we're developing our young guys and look for progress from them, but the season is over.
And really, it doesn't matter to me what you guys think about the Kennedy situation. He's still our coach. Our AD is supporting him, and he'll still be our coach next year as long as this whole thing plays out like they expect it to.
Even so, if you think he really sucks, why would that be any different than our normal basketball situation? We don't put a lot into our basketball program, and we get out what we put in. For me personally, football and baseball, in that order, come before basketball. That's just in general terms of what I like to watch and what I liked to play growing up, and the same applies to our programs. If we're struggling in basketball or we have problems in our basketball program, it doesn't bother me as much as it does with football, or even baseball.
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And a recruit that would be a major contributor to the last min to TN. what if Monta Ellis didn't opt for the NBA and stayed around? Where would we the past couple years if Bender and Outlaw came for a few? what if the Delk twins hung around... No one can say they are better off now.
So MSU is currently leading the west after loosing three contributors to transfer, a major playmaker to the pros, and a highly touted player that left at the last min that would have played signigicant minutes.... now what was their arguement again?
You said Kennedy can't pass Stansbury b/c of the sum of his accomplishments at State. Now you're arguing timeline and trends. You know what you mean, but you do a piss poor job of saying it. That's my point.
in this thread yet is that we are young ourselves. Our only upperclassmen that contribute are Varnado and Barry Stewart. And they're juniors. Our PG is a TRUE Fr. and Dee is going to get better. Ravern and Phil have stepped up as So., and they're just going to get better. Then we have Osby and Bailey on the bench. Heck, even Benock contributes as a role player. Then we Augustus who is an X factor at this point and he could be a good player for us next year just as much as he could be somewhere else if he can get his head out of his ***.
The only guys we might lose that I just mentioned are Varnado- and I think that there's a good chance that he will be back, and maybe Augustus. Then we lose, what? Brian Johnson?
I'd take our guys over your guys any day. That includes tommorrow to.
The only guys we might lose that I just mentioned are Varnado- and I think that there's a good chance that he will be back, and maybe Augustus. Then we lose, what? Brian Johnson?
I'd take our guys over your guys any day. That includes tommorrow to.
if you haven't noticed. That doesn't mean we don't want to win at everything. It just means that our fans care a whole lot more about doing well in football than they do other sports. And especially with this year, the injuries have all but ended our basketball season. Our top 3 options at PG all went down in the same year. If they were at other positions, we'd have a chance to compete, but we don't have a true PG, and we generally are playing at least 2, usually 3 true freshmen at all times on the floor. We're not going to win many games. We understand that, and when you understand that there is basically little that can be done, it doesn't bother you all that much.
My experience with Ole Miss fans is this- they only care about a certain sport if they are clearly better than State at that sport. See basketball circa whenever Ole Miss went to the Sweet 16 and Ole Miss baseball circa 2003-2008.
If State is better, "Oh well, we don't care, we're a football school anyway. HEY! We won the Egg Bowl! Hotty Toddy!"
You don't see State fans saying "Hey, we won the Governor's Cup!" because we're a "baseball school" or when we do have the Egg Bowl Trophy call ourselves a football school.
You're a typical Ole Miss fan, and that's why we love you, and why you're not worth 20 bucks to get rid of.
If State is better, "Oh well, we don't care, we're a football school anyway. HEY! We won the Egg Bowl! Hotty Toddy!"
You don't see State fans saying "Hey, we won the Governor's Cup!" because we're a "baseball school" or when we do have the Egg Bowl Trophy call ourselves a football school.
You're a typical Ole Miss fan, and that's why we love you, and why you're not worth 20 bucks to get rid of.
So when basketball sucks you are a football school? You know the fans seemed to have really loved the basketball team a ton these last few years as AK was getting ready to fly by Stansbury as top coach in the state of Mississippi. I just don't get this "we are a football school"mentality Ole Miss has. First of all your football team really hasnt been relevant since the 60's on a consistent basis, and is the fan base to simple minded to follow all of your sports? That saying is about as fair weathered as it gets. I want State good at everything every yearRebelBruiser said:
okay with MSU packing your own house when UM-MSU plays in oxford then we are fine with it too. It was priceless to see the looks on your players a couple years ago when they were getting shouted at on the free throw line and getting the one "left, right, left, SIT DOWN!" when they fouled out.
and like I said, but you seemed to have ignored, we still want to win at other sports, it just doesn't bother me, or most of our fans as much when we struggle at basketball or baseball as it does when we struggle at football. And especially with this basketball season, we understand we're going to struggle without a PG, so we've basically written off the idea of having a successful year. I want us to be successful at everything, tennis, soccer, rifle, anything, but that doesn't mean I care as much about those as I do about football.
Maybe your definition of football school is different from mine, but to me every school in the SEC except Vandy and Kentucky are football schools. The fans care the most about football, want to win the most at football, etc. A good example are the many threads on here about football assistant coaches, football recruiting, Mullen, etc.
You don't have those type of lenghty discussions about basketball and baseball during their off-seasons. Sure you want to win at those sports, but as a fanbase, you care the most about football. Hence, MSU is a football school.
Being a football school has nothing to do with which sport of yours has the most success. It has to do with which sport your fans want to have succeed the most. Florida won back to back basketball national titles, but they were still a big time football school, and basketball was very much secondary to the majority of their fans. Your baseball program definitely has had the most success of all of your major programs, but your fans still care more about football than baseball as a whole. LSU's baseball program has had a load of success, at times even more than their football program, but they were always a football school, because that's what their fans wanted to win the most.
Maybe your definition of football school is different from mine, but to me every school in the SEC except Vandy and Kentucky are football schools. The fans care the most about football, want to win the most at football, etc. A good example are the many threads on here about football assistant coaches, football recruiting, Mullen, etc.
You don't have those type of lenghty discussions about basketball and baseball during their off-seasons. Sure you want to win at those sports, but as a fanbase, you care the most about football. Hence, MSU is a football school.
Being a football school has nothing to do with which sport of yours has the most success. It has to do with which sport your fans want to have succeed the most. Florida won back to back basketball national titles, but they were still a big time football school, and basketball was very much secondary to the majority of their fans. Your baseball program definitely has had the most success of all of your major programs, but your fans still care more about football than baseball as a whole. LSU's baseball program has had a load of success, at times even more than their football program, but they were always a football school, because that's what their fans wanted to win the most.
I agree, but I can assure you that if we were in a bowl game thius year, and turned around and sucked it up in basketball I would not be on here saying I don't care as long as we are good in football. That is just stupid. When football season is over it is time to move on to basketball. Of course unless you are Ole Miss and the basketball team isn't doing good.RebelBruiser said:
That was one hell of a nice sheep post todd. Good form.
I guess seeing as how on the first page of this board there are posts claiming that Ole Miss is buying players, that the Clarion Ledger is biased, and making fun of Nutt for celebrating a cotton bowl victory, your post is par for the course.
I guess seeing as how on the first page of this board there are posts claiming that Ole Miss is buying players, that the Clarion Ledger is biased, and making fun of Nutt for celebrating a cotton bowl victory, your post is par for the course.
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We certainly did pass AU and Tennessee this year. Not just a one year fluke.... look at all of the preseason rankings for next year, where we are anywhere from #4 to #6. I don't see either of those two schools anywhere close to that.
Next year we will have our three best basketball players back.... Andy will be totally vindicated in libelous and false claims of the cab driver..... and we WILL be the top basketball program in this state..... just like we are in ALL of the major sports.
Next year we will have our three best basketball players back.... Andy will be totally vindicated in libelous and false claims of the cab driver..... and we WILL be the top basketball program in this state..... just like we are in ALL of the major sports.
I am gueesing this is either Mississippi Kite from the spirit? or maybe Vampirereb? Damn you are an idiotDestinBob said:
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In basketball you only have five starters. In football there are 22. You act like you didn't know the difference, so I thought I should point it out. So when you lose your three best players in basketball.... that is 60% of your starters.merkin2 said:
It would be like losing 13 starters for the season in football.
You really don't even have an argument.... that's why you can only say things like "Eat ****".
Very classy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So now Ole Miss is as young as were are? Then how is it the great AK can't keep up with "The Recruiter"DestinBob said:
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