So does anybody believe Karen Sypher....

[DowntownDawg]

....I am not saying that I do, but I don't think it's fair to just write the whole thing off. According to her, Pitino arranged for a restaurant owner to leave the keys with them and he raped her there in the restaurant while one of his assistants was drunk on the floor. Then, he set her up with Tim Sypher (another asst.) to marry her. Then, he raped her again at her husband's condo while the husband was upstairs. For the duration of their marriage, the husband kept trying to get her to drop it. Pitino also paid for her to get an abortion.

Pitino does not dispute the first sexual encounter, and I find his claim that $3k was given to her to buy health insurance laughable. The rest of it seems far fetched to me from her standpoint, but what I don't understand is why this hasn't been a bigger issue.

It's undisputed that Rick Pitino had a sexual encounter with a woman (not his wife) in a restaurant after it closed and that woman had an abortion and Pitino gave her money for medical reasons. I mean, is that not pretty serious, even if all the rest is BS? Would there not a be a shitstorm over Stansbury? Doesn't this make AK look like the Pope? I don't get it. It's like the media likes Pitino and all sort of feel bad for him, so it's not really blowing up.

 

[GloryDawg]

....I am not saying that I do, but I don't think it's fair to just write the whole thing off. According to her, Pitino arranged for a restaurant owner to leave the keys with them and he raped her there in the restaurant while one of his assistants was drunk on the floor. Then, he set her up with Tim Sypher (another asst.) to marry her. Then, he raped her again at her husband's condo while the husband was upstairs. For the duration of their marriage, the husband kept trying to get her to drop it. Pitino also paid for her to get an abortion.

Pitino does not dispute the first sexual encounter, and I find his claim that $3k was given to her to buy health insurance laughable. The rest of it seems far fetched to me from her standpoint, but what I don't understand is why this hasn't been a bigger issue.

It's undisputed that Rick Pitino had a sexual encounter with a woman (not his wife) in a restaurant after it closed and that woman had an abortion and Pitino gave her money for medical reasons. I mean, is that not pretty serious, even if all the rest is BS? Would there not a be a shitstorm over Stansbury? Doesn't this make AK look like the Pope? I don't get it. It's like the media likes Pitino and all sort of feel bad for him, so it's not really blowing up.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Too believe you would have to believe it was rape and from what I read it is a he said she said situation. Not disagreeing with you, I have no opinion at this point.</p>

 

[Rabid]

I don't think she was raped by him at anytime.

 

[I am Al Czervik]

if you MUST have an affair, do it with someone who has as much to lose at you do if you're caught. And do it at least two counties away.

 

[DowntownDawg]

...but is the fact that there was one, maybe two sexual encounters with a woman who was not his wife, who he later gave money to around the time of her abortion, and who later married one of his assistants not just totally bizarre and sickening? Pitino would admit to all of the above. Pitino is considered one of the greatest college basketball coaches of all time. This is a huge story, and I don't understand why it's not bigger and he seems to be getting a pass, even if everything else is pure BS.

 

[Bdog9090]

and I find his claim that $3k was given to her to buy health insurance laughable.

I think it's laughable to think that an abortion actually costs 3 grand.

 

[MrHooch]

I don't believe him either...the truth is most likely somewhere in the middle. The most plausible story is that the first time in the restaurant was consensual (can't spell "consensual" without SENSUAL woo!)...she probably became obsessed with his money, his fame, or both and began stalking him. She hooks up/marries the assistant coach to stay close to him, goes crazy like a slamhound on him again at their house (because I don't know of any woman who wouldn't scream bloody murder if they were REALLY being raped while their husband was within earshot upstairs), and then finally has her psychotic breakdown when he rebuffs her after she claims to be carrying his child...

That's just an educated guess based on the goodly number of psycho-bitches I've had the displeasure of knowing in my life...

 

[AssEndDawg]

mainly her own reactions up until the point she cried rape I don't believe her at all. I watch Law and Order: Special Victims Unit so I consider myself a expert in this area. If she were really raped she with react one of three ways: 1) Anger, this would be immediately going to the cops and having that bastard arrested. 2) Shame, think it was her fault, spend half a day in the shower trying to wash him off, move to Seattle, change her name, and hide. 3) Denial, pretend it didn't happen but lash out in inappropriate ways against other men, especially daddy.

What I have never seen happen is that the person acts completely normal, continues to hang around the guy who raped her, marries a good friend/subordinate of the rapist, and generally act like everything is ok until she needs money and then blackmails the rapist only to cry rape once the guy turns her in to the feds. Now, I suppose this could have happened on a episode I missed but I'm thinking it didn't.

In all seriousness, her story is so full of holes it's nearly impossible to believe her. The only parts that don't sound like complete ******** are the parts she refuses to answer because she can't come up with anything even close to plausible. It looks like Pitino is a scumbag but I'm not seeing him as a rapist at this point. There is no doubt the 3 grand was abortion/hush money. The insurance line is just silly.

 

[jakldawg]

economy, Ted Kennedy, healthcare reform, my poor family, 9/11, hey look Billy Clyde's drunk, what else can I say ALL APOLOGIES, help me Pat Forde you're my only hope...

<font size="2">(what I'm saying is nobody believes her, but you shouldn't throw yourself a total pity party of a press conference just to be on the safe side. Then you'll look nuts, too.)</font>

 

[Stansfield]

named after his father.

 

[DowntownDawg]

....just curious, where are the holes in her story? My impression is that its he-said, she-said. Obviously, two things stand out: 1) She took him home after the first rape. 2) She waited 6 years to report. Her explanation is that for she was initially in shock and he insisted that she give him a ride, and that she didn't report it because she was being persuaded by her husband not to, and she wanted to be tough and live with it. Those leave a lot to be desired, but I can't write them off totally. Of course, the authorities apparently don't believe her enough to file charges against him, which says something.

 

[AssEndDawg]

The biggest one being that on the night it happened there was someone who stayed behind because he thought Pitino was going to need a ride. He was outside the restaurant and heard everything. She originally claimed that she was screaming for help and fought him but because he asked the owner to leave no one heard her. When she was confronted with the fact that someone was there and had reported that he only heard the sound of two people having consensual sex she changed her story.

There was something else about her claiming he raped her again in her own home with her husband there but it turns out that the day she said that happened Pitino was out of the state and has like 400 witnesses (even her husband didn't back her up on this one). There are others I just can't recall them all. During the questioning the officer even commented that the evidence makes it seem like she is lying to cover her *** for the extortion and her comment was, "it does sorta look that way."

Hell, if he's guilty I'm the first to vote for stringing him up, this just really looks like someone yelling rape to save their ***.

 

[DowntownDawg]

..

..The biggest one being that on the night it happened there was someone who stayed behind because he thought Pitino was going to need a ride. He was outside the restaurant and heard everything. She originally claimed that she was screaming for help and fought him but because he asked the owner to leave no one heard her. When she was confronted with the fact that someone was there and had reported that he only heard the sound of two people having consensual sex she changed her story.

The only thing I have read is that there was an asst. coach passed out drunk in the restaurant "Vinny." She claims she didn't know she was there. I haven't found a good objective summary.

 

[lannsd]

....just curious, where are the holes in her story? My impression is that its he-said, she-said. Obviously, two things stand out: 1) She took him home after the first rape. 2) She waited 6 years to report. Her explanation is that for she was initially in shock and he insisted that she give him a ride, and that she didn't report it because she was being persuaded by her husband not to, and she wanted to be tough and live with it. Those leave a lot to be desired, but I can't write them off totally.

You are still ignorant of further facts. After 6 years she still didn't report, what did she do? She tried to squeeze millions of dollars out of Pitino instead. She was so hurt by Pitino's grievous action that she didn't care about him going to jail, all she cared about was getting a few million out of him. Yep I imagine that is how the typical rape victim behaves, waits years and even then still doesn't report the crime. Can you write that off? Okay, when did she finally cry rape? Only after Pitino charged her with extortion, not a second before. Timing is funny no? Still writing it off? Okay. She also claims when Pitino raped her he threated to put her and her family in concrete and drown them. Her response to a man that threatened to murder her and her family? Try and extort him for millions of dollars. Yep thats logical, if a man threatened to kill me and my family I'm sure that is what I would do, try and get him to pay me millions of dollars. Not you know go to the police or anything. And it goes on and on and on. Anyone who believes Sypher beyond they had sex and Pitino gave her money for an abortion is a complete moron.

Edit to add: Add to that the inconsistencies and how her story seems to change every day and like I said, anyone who believes her is an idiot as far as I'm concerned. Its pretty apparent Sypher is out of her *%@+@%% mind.

Edit to add a second time: Hernfirst lawyer, after reviewing the facts, basically told her she had no case, to shut up and hopefully he could keep her out of prison. She proceeded to do interviews with news stations. That lawyer no longer represents her. Apparently the FBI at some point gave her a polygraph. She failed. The local Louisville tv station gave her a polygraph, she didn't fail but she did't pass either. On and on and on. . .

 

[AssEndDawg]

I'm not hunting back through Digg looking for a link. But if you do follow Digg, I do religiously, you tend to build a pretty broad, if somewhat shaky, base of knowledge on many subjects. This is what I remember of what I read, I honestly don't care enough about her or Pitino to defend my position and I could easily be turned.

 

[gptdawg]

Petrino, Pitino, Paterno- who raped who?

 

[patdog]

Pitino 17-her in a restaurant several years ago, and she's been shaking him down for money ever since. First, she claimed she was pregnant and needed $3,000 for an abortion and he gave it to her. Then several years later, she tried to shake him down for a lot more money and he said 17 that, I'm going to the police. I hate Rick Pitino as much as anybody, but that's what happened. No 17ing way did he ever rape her.

 

[Eureka Dog]

turn off your "bad situation" radar.

Your reputation should always be protected. It takes years to build a reputation and about 10 seconds to lose it. If you are married, just allowing yourself to be seen alone in a car, or entering the home of, or out in public in the company of a woman other than a close family member ... well, all it takes is one onlooker thinking the worst about what is going on and your reputation is suddenly in trouble.

Pitino was stupid for dining with the woman. He was even more idiotic for even considering the thought of staying in that restaurant after hours.
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