Completely agree with what Selmon is doing here, and with you about Cohen 17ing it up in the beginning. It was blatantly obvious we were under-building. For as much as we got right about rebuilding the stadium, we really half-a$$ed it in some ways that would have been relatively easy to just do right to begin with.
So, if we’re going all in in baseball- and I’m great with that …
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Yeah, but let's look at it this way. There IS clearly room to add two more chairback sections on the 1st base side LL, and one more section on the 3rd base side LL. There IS clearly room to add upperdeck sections down both sides. And it's clear that they considered this while building the stadium.
So even though we "didn't build it big enough", they clearly had the vision to allow for additional seating to be added in the future. They will just need to find another section for GA folks and I think that happens behind the rigs in right field. Hell, you could even redo the rig orientation on that second level to allow more room for bleacher seating behind them.
Is that supposed to be a good thing? If big companies bought up all the lounge spots it'd be bland and boring and probably empty until SEC season every year.
First off I don’t think we need expansion for sake of bigger and bigger attendance records. I’m not even sure we’d get them. But I do think it should happen, and view it as an investment into the next generation of MSU baseball fans / support. And it will increase revenue as well.
I was in town for the weekend of the South Carolina series with my kids. Knowing that they are too young to be super interested in the game, but might like the spectacle of it, and wouldn’t sit still but would maybe like to roam around the stadium….I scoped out possibly just getting GA tickets. That’s how I got hooked at a young age when my Dad used to take me. But holy shít. Literally was going to be nearly $100 just to get the 4 of us in the stadium, and that’s before parking, concessions, souvenirs, etc. And we wouldn’t even have seats. So I made an easy call to not go, knowing we’d be lucky to get an hour out of it before legs started hurting, it got too hot, etc.
It’s just crazy because when I was growing up - in this same century so no that long ago - I had a season GA pass that was $50. Total….for the whole season. Wasn’t a lounge regular either. Mostly sat in bleachers, would move to grandstand in the 4th / 5th when they let you, and popped into the lounges here and there. Probably wouldn’t give 2 shíts at all about MSU baseball today if I got detached quickly from the live product in my formative years, due to getting priced out. But that’s what we’re doing now to lots of folks. In general we just need more seating, and some actual seating needs to be allocated for students and GA, don’t care where it is in the stadium or how nice it is….just make room for 800-1,000 people to put their asś on something that they don’t have to carry into the stadium with them. That’s it. And make those 800-1,000 seats affordable (along with any additional SRO tickets), which you can do if you’re expanding down the lines with more premium / chairback seating, and increasing cost of existing grandstand / skyboxes / lounge spots.
So 17ing apropos for a guy well known for saying SPEND MORE for football and doesn’t want anything more spent for baseball which is by far the most productive program the university has.
If you don’t want to spend, you don’t have to— but if you like baseball and want to attend games, you have to spend more.
That’s what you want people to do for football after all…
If we take out the Berms which sounds like we are going to do (when ?) build another Loft in Left Field and maybe add another level of box/rig’s since there is a waiting list for those then we’d at least be good for another 10 years, maybe 15 before having to add on again somehow.
I value loyalty and sacrifice, and not to mention seniors. You exude corporate America.So 17ing apropos for a guy well known for saying SPEND MORE for football and doesn’t want anything more spent for baseball which is by far the most productive program the university has.
If you don’t want to spend, you don’t have to— but if you like baseball and want to attend games, you have to spend more.
That’s what you want people to do for football after all…
We need expansion because there are a lot of Bulldog fans that would love the opportunity to go to games but can’t because there’s nowhere for them to sit.
I’m glad you admitted you were wrong
You truly do value seniors such as me — a state retiree
Carry on & ixnay the fecal matter you call talking points…
You’re not that old. Happy belated birthday btw.
How do I know what? Not sure what that means but ok.
But back to my point. You want tickets prices to stay low for selfish reasons. Well I want Selmon to make the best decisions for msu and not me.
Generally, many seats were available via secondary markets and some were actually reasonably priced. Anyone wanting to attend any mid week games could easily get chairback seating. If nothing else, buy a GA ticket and then go sit in a chairback. They did not strictly enforce access to those areas.
One thing I’d like to see is an incentive program for season ticket holders to sell any tickets they aren’t using. Maybe give them BC points or discounts on next season’s tickets for every ticket used.
Hopefully if they do expand they let people on the waiting list have first bid before corporations that aren't going to attend but a few sec games if we're winning. Otherwise it'll be like basketball as someone has stated.
Put them behind the lounge elevated around right field. And down right field line there is room left field if you expand grand stand and put bleachers in second level in one of the sections
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Get more fan support for families that want to come to weekend games and have a place to sit would go a long way
This is the way. I drew this out in a sketch at home and there was plenty of room to put bleacher behind right and down left. Could do it right and they wouldn't look like crap. Could be elevate to not screw up sro walking areas. Bluebell has some maroon bleachers built into their grand stand.
My experience was much the same. We didn't have season tickets but dad would take us and go sit in the bleachers and would do this in high school and then as a student at state. Now with kid and wife not going to drive 4 hours to stand because we aren't getting there and fight for a berm. But I want my son to see a bunch of games like I did. Cheaper priced bleachers can make that happen.
State has had the cheapest football tickets in the conference for a reason, we don’t sell out. Hell, I can’t give away tickets at times.
You spend big time dollars on baseball, you have to raise prices or it’s not sustainable.
If you want a big time program, that’s what it is going to take to keep it! $$$$
Nah, I don’t have season tickets or the ability to go to many games at all. We have a really good thing going with our baseball atmosphere. I hope we don’t screw it up.
Again, all I want is the option to buy individual baseball game chairback tickets at a reasonable price. I don’t have the geographic or financial means to be a season ticket holder in either sport. Whenever I do go to a football game in Starkville, it’s a non-conference game.
I don’t know why, but this post just made me think…. Remember when the biggest problem in college sports was scalped tickets. lol, those were the days
More seats would allow them to be cheaper. The reason it is expensive is there are so few chairbacks so they get top dollar.
Supply and demand.
The boomers inherited a rich, dynamic country, and through greed have gradually bankrupted it. Not all boomers are sociopaths.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
I remember it well. My dad always said he could show up to any sporting event in the world five minutes before a game and get great tickets. We did it many times for ncaa basketball tournaments/final fours.
Junction Johns are already in use just outside the LFL down some stairs in the parking lot, you can go and come in and out as you wish. They are seldom used but I love them because of that. They have tried food trucks in that same area, not sure I EVER saw anybody use them at all.
"Raise ticket ,Loft and Lounge spots prices significantly"
-All 12 Lofts never have been totally leased. There are some available for rentals, because they aren't leased. We were told the next 12 would be built once 8 of the 12 were leased out. That hasn't happened yet so no more Lofts till then. Do you think subscribe to the build it and they will come concept? Do you still think raising Loft prices will help with that?
-"Standing Room Only" ticket prices for SEC game went up this year to $22, to STAND or sit on the grass
-At the Meet O'Connor dog and pony show last week the scoreboard had a graphic on it saying ticket prices are going up effective Sept so you can buy now at old prices or pay more after Sept.
" Corporations would jump all over the Lounge spots"
The same thing would happen at The Dude that happens at The Hump that fans BITC-H endlessly on this very forum about, the Lounges would be empty on mid week games and a lot of weekends as well. Nobody in the boxes mean no $22 tickets sold for them, no $10 beers sold to them
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They went up $800 this past season, going up another $800 this season as well
Solution to being sold out is to increase capacity to meet demand. Not increase prices to bring demand down to capacity.
I personally wish there would be a lower priced either reserved or G/A option involved with any expansion plans. To me they had the right idea in Omaha with the outfield seats being cheap G/A, but when Covid came along they capitalized on the opportunity to raise the price significantly and make them more expensive reserved seats.
I'm not commenting on your post, but just wanted to say, I believe they are going to build the next Loft building sooner than you think.
Could be, that's just what I was told a season or two ago. They didn't want to invest in the structure if it wasn't at least 2/3 leased at that time