So what's left in recrootin.....we've got 4 spots left.....

[Railin Jemmye]

Seems Corey Smith is sticking around, and also the rumor is we won't sign more than 25 period. There's always the possible Sandberg defection and it seem Ulric Jones is JUCO for sure, but none of that matters if we're just signing 25 and saving spots for next year. We already asked Austin to greyshirt, so something is going on here. So who do we close with? Surely we have some guys lined up out of these possible candidates:

Josh Dobbs
John O'Korn
Mackensie Alexander
Macenro Alexander
Toby Johnson
Jonathan Ford
Tony Conner
Eric Mayes
Jahmere Irvin Sills
De'Runnya Wilson

Of course, Scout and 247 don't completely agree on actual visitors and dates, so there could be others coming we don't know about. I do wish Dylan Bradley was included there, though.

 

[JacksonDevilDog]

This is how I think we finish:

Irvin-Sills
Alexander twins
Dobbs/O'Korn

Seems Corey Smith is sticking around, and also the rumor is we won't sign more than 25 period. There's always the possible Sandberg defection and it seem Ulric Jones is JUCO for sure, but none of that matters if we're just signing 25 and saving spots for next year. We already asked Austin to greyshirt, so something is going on here. So who do we close with? Surely we have some guys lined up out of these possible candidates:

Josh Dobbs
John O'Korn
Mackensie Alexander
Macenro Alexander
Toby Johnson
Jonathan Ford
Tony Conner
Eric Mayes
Jahmere Irvin Sills
De'Runnya Wilson

Of course, Scout and 247 don't completely agree on actual visitors and dates, so there could be others coming we don't know about. I do wish Dylan Bradley was included there, though.

 

[bonedaddy401]

I'll play....

Mackensie Alexander
Jahmere Irvin Sills
John O'Korn
De'Runnya Wilson

 

[Railin Jemmye]

I can't see Wilson turning Auburn down. And the Alexanders are not as 'in the bag' as many here have been led to believe. I hope you're right on O'Korn, I just want to see some press on us actually recruiting him and him actually considering us before I believe it. Sills is definitely a foregone conclusion, but there is talk that we may not have room for him, which leads me to believe we have other options lined up.

 

[WTGDawg]

I see that Ford is visiting this weekend according to 24/7. If we landed him, do yall believe that could push Shumpert towards playing Safety next year? However, I do think he will end up Vandy. I think we land Irvin-Sills, Alexanders, and hopefully O'Korn or Dobbs. Really hope we are not forced to bring in a Parker Adamson type...

 

[Railin Jemmye]

I see it as more of that the staff sees a chance to get a good player. Who cares about the depth at RB or wherever. If you have a chance to sign a 4 star athlete, you take it. Shumpert or Ford could play either position, and I'm sure the best will play and the other will get moved to where they can contribute.

I'm with you on the QB. I won't believe it until I see it. I've been disappointed in Mullen's QB recruiting, it hasn't been much better than Croom's. They both get credit for Russell, and after that, all Mullen's brought in was a 3* Prescott and a stud who just so happens to be an MLB pick. Now, if Sandberg gets to campus, I retract this statement, because he's a program changer. Croom signed Carroll, Riddell, Lee and Rutland, who all were at least considered solid. Relf, Henig cancelled out Favre and Scheussler.

Good thing about Mullen, is that he's brought in better WR prospects AND actually knows how to run an offense to fit his personnel, which Croom did not.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Jesus tap dancing Christ. Carrol riddel lee and rutland were at least considered solid? Are you 17in high? Which other d1 schools were after these solid prospects. You're such a 17in joke.

 

[Railin Jemmye]

Carroll had offers from NC State and Duke, and then went on to be serviceable at FIU. Riddell was a 4* JUCO who at least looked the part until he pissed Croom off and tore his leg up. Rutland also had a HS injury that cut down on his options. Lee was a 4* JUCO All-American, at least Croom made him walk on. Relf turned out to be good but as a recruit he was a nobody. Henig sucked plain and simple.

Prescott had a late offer from LSU in a class where they signed 3 other QBs. Favre and Scheussler were 2* nobodies. Sandberg is a major MLB risk.

As I said earlier, Russell counts for both of them.

By all means, keep up with the name-calling and emotional outbursts due to your ignorance on the subject.

 

[bonedaddy401]

You can't think you are going to get away with...

calling Carroll, Riddell, Lee and Rutland "solid". All four were terrible, Lee being the least terrible. Wasn't he a walk on to start with?

Justifying Carroll as solid by saying he was serviceable at FIU is an indictment of his ability more than a complement.

Riddell was AWFUL regardless of how many "stars" he had and Rutland wasn't worth his scholly at JSU.

Regardless of how many stars, rankings.. whatever those guys had... the Henig -> Lee run of QBs has to be one of the worst runs in SEC history.

I know I picked just a part of your whole post to comment on but using Carroll, Riddell, Lee and Rutland as proof that Croom recruited better than Mullen is laughable. C'mon man you know it.... and that stands true even though Mullen has only recruited ONE decent QB. (TR excluded)

I agree on one point though... I am disappointed in Mullen's inability to get a highly touted QB to campus. The bar is set pretty high when you have "coached" two Heisman trophy winners at that position.

 

[WTGDawg]

Rutland boasted offers from Ohio State, Auburn, Tennessee, Alabama, Kentucky, Clemson and North Carolina
State prior to his Senior season.

 

[WTGDawg]

Agree, lets just hope Mullen proves us wrong and we can secure Dobbs or O'Korn. Back to back classes without a solid QB would just be unacceptable.

 

[Railin Jemmye]

Actually, yes I am going to get away with it. See my other post in this thread. We are comparing them as recruits, not final products. Coaching has alot to do with it. I probably shouldn't have used Carroll's play at FIU, seeing how that happened after the fact.

If we get O'Korn or better this year, then it won't matter. But if we whiff on a QB (that gets to campus) this year, I mean, there would have been no real improvement from the last regime.

PRODUCTION on campus will have increased tenfold though, Lee/Relf/Russell are all a testament to that. But we do have to get the guys here.

 

[bonedaddy401]

Isn't evaluation part of recruiting?

They were all sub par, the majority very sub par, Quarterbacks. You ever think that's how they ended up at State?

Is anyone saying Saban can't recruit QB's because he has won National Championships with guys who weren't highly recruited? He hasn't landed any 4* Juco all american talent at QB that we know of so Croom must be better than him right?

You keep lauding Croom for being a good QB recruiter.. the rest of us will keep trying to forget that time period even happened......

 

[Railin Jemmye]

Hilarious how point get contrived and twisted on this board.....

You keep lauding Croom for being a good QB recruiter.. the rest of us will keep trying to forget that time period even happened......

I never said any **** like that.

And geez, your evaluation bit is just so far off the mark, it has nothing to do with this argument, and you are using as desperation to back up a lost argument. Of course it's a big part, but it's up to the coach to do something with what he evaluated.

Some of you are just incredibly ignorant. Blows my mind.

 

[Coach 57]

Goat is actually right on this (see Goat we can agree). Rutland, Riddell and Carroll under Mullen and his system and staff would've been pretty good especially Rutland and Carroll. Plus of the two QBs mentioned Dan has got to stay away from guys like Dobbs. He's like Tyler. A pocket passer. And it seems evident that if we maintain our current offensive scheme and staff we need to go after guys like O'korn with that skill set to fit in Dan's "wheel house".

 

[Railin Jemmye]

Guess we should hug it out.

But let me be clear, I'm right because I know what I'm talking about, not because you agree. And on the Tyler/Dobbs deal, I'm not going to say Mullen's offense doesn't run BEST (with ALL things being equal) with a running QB, I think it does. But if you can get a better talented drop back guy or just an average running guy, I think Mullen is going to take the drop back guy. They CAN be successful. Tyson Lee is a good example....our offense was not bad in 2009, we moved the ball consistently on everyone except the elite defenses like Florida and Alabama. Lee made the throws.

 

[tenureplan]

Lee could also run a little bit...Way better than Russell can anyway

 

[CadaverDawg]

Croom's problem was he wasn't able to develop a QB once he got one, and that they had to play under McCorvey's offense.

Mullen may have only gotten Tyler and Dak, but he did wonders for Relf with his style of offense alone. Plus, you can begin to see how well he's developing Dak in limited action.

I think that's another reason I like Dak next year (not starting that discussion again, just making a point)....because Mullen hasn't impressed me much with his development of Tyler. He stands too flat footed, no movement, etc...but he is accurate. That may be more of a poor reflection on Les than Mullen though, I figure Mullen is QB coach though.

 

[BogeyGolfer.sixpack]

All good points and our 2009 team, at the end of the year,

was better than our 2012 team and maybe even better than our 2011 team at the end of the year. Dixon also had a lot to do with our offense moving the ball and Relf getting more PT.

 

[bonedaddy401]

Goat is actually right on this (see Goat we can agree). Rutland, Riddell and Carroll under Mullen and his system and staff would've been pretty good especially Rutland and Carroll. ".

You do realize Carroll left because Mullen told him he didn't think he could play in his system right? Wow.....

 

[Railin Jemmye]

Bull.

 

[bonedaddy401]

Mullen liked Lee and Relf more than him...

http://djbulldogs.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/wesley-carroll-to-transfer/

 

[dogeatdog]

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[Railin Jemmye]

What exactly are you trying to prove. We all know Croom played Lee over Carroll in 2008.

We had three QBs on the roster in 2009: Lee, Relf and Russell. Mullen did NOT tell Carroll to leave. Quite the contrary. Hang this up, you're not going to win.

 

[patdog]

That link in no way supports what you said. In fact, it says that Carroll lost his job to Lee in 2008, while Croom was still the coach.

 

[bonedaddy401]

The point is that Croom wasn't able to get decent QB's to Miss State...

You used Carroll, Riddell, Lee and Rutland as examples of good QB's that he recruited. They all sucked.

 

[ChinaDogSunflower]

What was this thread about again?

 

[bonedaddy401]

Afghanistan exit strategy

or somethin

 

[Singer]

Carroll had offers from NC State and Duke, and then went on to be serviceable at FIU. Riddell was a 4* JUCO who at least looked the part until he pissed Croom off and tore his leg up. Rutland also had a HS injury that cut down on his options. Lee was a 4* JUCO All-American, at least Croom made him walk on. Relf turned out to be good but as a recruit he was a nobody. Henig sucked plain and simple.

Prescott had a late offer from LSU in a class where they signed 3 other QBs. Favre and Scheussler were 2* nobodies. Sandberg is a major MLB risk.

As I said earlier, Russell counts for both of them.

By all means, keep up with the name-calling and emotional outbursts due to your ignorance on the subject.

Prescott also had T.C. U. And Alabama making solid bids among many others and L. S. U was late because they thought he would be a shoe in, being from La. But he honored his commitment and even notified Saban to thank him for consideration but he was passing on his visit. 4 star 3 star 2 star suck it I want winners and PRESCOTT Is a winner, check his stats.