So where does Jackson go from here?

[GhostOfJackie]

Rather, what do people that actually care about Jackson do next? It's clear that electorate in the City of Jackson have no clue what is right for the city and they have demonstrated it many times. I don't want to turn this into a "bash Jackson" thread, but what happens in Jackson is very important to the entire state. The media will drag Jackson through the mud for a few days then they will move on to other stories. Surely there will continue to be people in Jackson who care about the city, but will it ever elect a decent mayor?

 

[RobbieRandolph]

We'll be fine. Hope the new guy can market the city for growth.

If you live in a Metro-area suburb but are "disappointed in Jackson" then I think you're a *****.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Astute, level headed observation

 

[ShrubDog]

I live in a suburb of Jackson and was born in Flowood. I have lived in multiple cities in Mississippi and have lived in Texas, Louisiana, Alabama and Florida. All of which are great states with great capital cities but Mississippi will always be my favorite. And for some reason it seems that Jackson will never progress or elect a decent mayor. The suburbs of Jackson seem like they are slowly progressing. Like most cities and towns in our state we are just behind norm...but Jackson will always be a jungle as long as they elect these types of mayors. It will never change...never.

 

[GhostOfJackie]

If you live in a Metro-area suburb but are "disappointed in Jackson" then I think you're a *****.

So people outside of Jackson can't care about their state capitol? Also, you can't blame people for taking their families away from crime.

 

[RobbieRandolph]

They have every right to move. But don't take the moral high ground and "be dissapointed" in us when they could still live here and directly affect the outcome they are so disappointed in.

ETA: It's Capital. Our Capitol is doing outstanding, from what I'm told.

 

[RobbieRandolph]

I'm of the though that Jackson and her suburbs are in this together.

It's not an us vs them thing. I'm simply hoping that Jackson somehow progresses and grows in the next 4 years.

 

[SkullCandy.sixpack]

I'm a "respect the will of the voters" type, but will admit it bothers me that a person that seems so polarizing was elected. Jackson is clearly is need of serious work on its infrastructure, but its tax base (more affluent citizens and businesses) are leaving for the burbs or elsewhere.

I'm not sure I would characterize a friend of mine who was born and grew up in Jackson, and returned there after law school to work in the city for 11 years, but then moved to Madison as a "*****." He had a nice home in NE Jackson, and saw his property values plummet as the neighborhoods became increasingly victimized by crime. He lost 40% when he sold his home, but felt it was something he needed to do. 2 years later, his entire firm moved out of the city.

I would agree it's bitching to move next to a big city with typical big city problems, and then complain about it, but if you've watched your neighborhood deteriorate to something you don't want your kids growing up in, and leave the city, you've earned the right to complain.

 

[dawgstudent]

I just wonder when the city council says the pledge of allegiance to begin the meeting, will Lumumba now participate?

 

[FlabLoser]

It's not an us vs them thing. I'm simply hoping that Jackson somehow progresses and grows in the next 4 years.

The suburbs have thrived to unprecedented levels while Jackson has sunk to unprecedented levels. How are they in this together?

 

[ShrubDog]

It's not an us vs them thing. I'm simply hoping that Jackson somehow progresses and grows in the next 4 years.

It would be awesome if Jackson could progress. But lets be real....it will not happen.

Chokwe Lumumba: Former Lawyer For Tupac & Assata Shakur Wins Jackson, Miss. Mayoral Primary Race

Lumumba served four years on the Jackson City Council before running for mayor. He spent part of the ’70s and ’80s as vice-president of the Republic of New Afrika, an organization which advocated for “an independent predominantly black government” in the southeastern United States and reparations for slavery.

http://newsone.com/2471870/chokwe-lumumba-jackson-miss-mayor/

 

[Jimbob Cooter]

To me, it's simple. If you like Jackson, stay. If you don't, move out to the suburbs. Let the guy work his magic in Jackson, at least we'll somewhat quarantine the riff-raff. Doesn't seem like any Mayor or City Council can get anything done over there honestly. What has changed? Highly doubt there will be less crime now, but also, how can it really increase?

Mississippi's future is Tupelo (NE MS in general, including the Golden Triangle) and the Coast, period.

 

[DaRealistDawg]

You'll get growth alright

Just not in the areas that lead to a prosperous, safe, and vibrant city. Now you could argue that Jacksonians have been turning a blind eye over the last 20 years and so why would this election really matter. I guess place your bets, but only if you live in Jackson, well, the white part of Jackson.

So to not be a *****, my family and I would have to move to Jackson and only then could I truly be disappointed in the negro Pseudo-intellectual that will now be running Jackson. Perhaps you should take that authenticated disappointment and set up shop on Wood Street and let me know how being a proper ***** feels.

If then logic at its best.

 

[thatsbaseball]

The possibilities for bad pub for the city are going to be limitless. Get ready.

 

[GhostOfJackie]

It's not an us vs them thing. I'm simply hoping that Jackson somehow progresses and grows in the next 4 years.

That's a direct contradiction to what you just said. If the city and suburbs are "all in this together" then somebody from the suburbs has every right to be disappointed in the leadership in Jackson. And taking your family away from crime, but still caring about the capital city in which you were raised, is definitely not a ***** move. Remember, it's not an us vs them thing.

 

[Jdog.sixpack]

Last weekend while enjoying the MSU vs SC Saturday ballgame I had an opportunity to ask a friend of mine, who lives in Jackson and is politically well connected "Is Lumumba as bad as they say he is?" His reply, was "He's worse". Earlier in the same week I heard a high ranking individual with the Greater Jackson Chamber of Commerce pretty much express the same sentiments. For the sake of Jackson and the state I hope they are both wrong.

 

[RobbieRandolph]

I'll expound some and them I'm done.

If Jackson didn't exist, nor would the suburbs. Jackson is the medical and governmental hub of the State. As it goes, so does the fates of many of the suburbs. If 2/3 of our hospitals close down, you think the suburbs would take a population hit? Our top 3 industries are Government, education, and health care and Jackson is the crux of it all.

I believe it's hypocritical for suburbanites who choose not to live in the city, attempt to look down upon Jacksonians about the election. You can disagree, but saying "I'm disappointed" gives off an ere of superiority which is clearly not there. It's fine to disagree with how Jackson is run, hell I'm sure I disagree with many choices the Madison BoS makes, but I don't assume to say that I'm disappointed, like a parent is of a child, because I don't live there and I'm not involved in that process. You get there's a difference right?

Agree to disagree, I guess. Hope for the best for Jackson.

 

[LandArchDawg]

From the little I read, it looks like Jackson is about to get...

their version of what Willie Herenton was to Memphis. Having lived through Herenton here, I feel terribly sorry for y'all because you aren't going anywhere or progressing with that kind of loose cannon "leadership."

 

[RobbieRandolph]

Even money Harvey runs as an independent?

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[ShrubDog]

I like how he calls the Police...PO Lice....pronounced Po~lease

 

[Jimbob Cooter]

That's fine, I just don't want them to go backwards. Like it or not, all Mississippians should care about Jackson in some capacity.

 

[dawgstudent]

Are you able to run as an independent after you are defeated in the primary?

 

[GhostOfJackie]

Agree to disagree, I guess. Hope for the best for Jackson.

^^This^^ Because the rest of the state should care deeply.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

I see Mississippi going the way of Jackson in the next 15-20 years

At the turn of the 20th Century, Mississippi had a majority black population. With the combination of Jim Crow, mechanization of cotton harvesting, and industrialization of the North, blacks fell to about 30% of the population.

With the end of Jim Crow and racial discrimination, the nice climate, and the chance to get away from the hellholes of inner-cities Detroit, Chicago, Waterloo, IA, etc., their children and grandchildren are moving back. Blacks will be a majority in a generation. I'm afraid they'll elect black Theodore Bilbos-Ross Barnett-James K. Vardaman-types, who combine a Leftist Socialist economic policy with a race-baiting.

 

[SkullCandy.sixpack]

I think you're right, but don't leave out the Tennessee border-a lot of Memphians are migrating to the burbs of North Mississippi. The Desoto county area is thriving. I'm on the Coast and would say this place has the most potential of all BUT the problem is you hit the reset button on everything you have every 10-20 years. That fact has me very worried about the Biloxi baseball complex.

 

[fishwater99]

Chowke won't get much done with the City Council that we have in place.
Jackson will just continue to stagnate until Chowke dies from kidney failure. I have heard he doesn't have too long left on this earth.

I will only leave Jackson when I can't afford private schools for my children.
I am currently sending one to pre-school and one to FPDS and I have a nanny, but $18K per year x 2 might be too much when they get older.

The other option is for NE Jackson, Fondren & Belhaven to succeed from Jackson and form their own city. All it takes is 3,000 signatures to get it started per a Mississippi statue. But I would think they would also want the downtown area to be included.

 

[RobbieRandolph]

Nah, don't think so. Regardless, deadline is passed.

 

[seshomoru]

Nowhere if they don't fix the infrastructure.

It's fun to get all up in arms about the end of the city as we know it, though. People have been doing it after every single mayoral election save for the time Frank Melton got elected. Remember how awesome he was going to be for the city? Man, he sure shored up the crime problem didn't he?

Jackson needs to fix it's failing infrastructure more than anything else, and that's the bottom line (to steal from Melton). If Lumumba can somehow pull that off, then people are going to forget that he's some radical, kitten eating, baby punting, triple Muslim, gay marrying, or whatever your bogey man of choice is.

 

[FlabLoser]

If Jackson didn't exist, nor would the suburbs. Jackson is the medical and governmental hub of the State. As it goes, so does the fates of many of the suburbs. If 2/3 of our hospitals close down, you think the suburbs would take a population hit?

Much development in Flowood and Rankin County has been the addition of new medical facilities. Some Jackson hospitals want to build new hospitals in Madison County. There is already a hospital in Brandon which is receiving investments.

If Jackson and the suburbs are so tied at the hip - how in the sam hell to the burbs keep thriving to unprecedented levels while Jackson keeps falling?

I believe it's hypocritical for suburbanites who choose not to live in the city, attempt to look down upon Jacksonians about the election. You can disagree, but saying "I'm disappointed" gives off an ere of superiority which is clearly not there. It's fine to disagree with how Jackson is run, hell I'm sure I disagree with many choices the Madison BoS makes, but I don't assume to say that I'm disappointed, like a parent is of a child, because I don't live there and I'm not involved in that process. You get there's a difference right?

Agree to disagree, I guess. Hope for the best for Jackson.

Where is the hypocrisy Hypocrisy would be to look down on Jackson while crime runs rampant in Rankin Co. But wait, crime is not running rampant in Rankin Co.

And there IS superiority in the burbs.

And I do disagree strongly with how Madison is run - which is why I don't live there.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Those two statements are polar opposites ...

It's not an us vs them thing. I'm simply hoping that Jackson somehow progresses and grows in the next 4 years.

as opposed to ... "If you live in a Metro-area suburb but are "disappointed in Jackson" then I think you're a *****."

 

[LandArchDawg]

Yeah, I'd say Jackson is probably shovel-ready**

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[OzarkaNSW]

people throw around the word "infrastructure" a lot, like thats all it takes

 

[615dawg]

Going to be hard to progress when you have a mayor that would answer a question like this.

You seem to be suspicious of capitalistic enterprises. How will that affect your relationship to businesses and business groups in terms of attracting them Jackson? We're in a transitional economy in many respects. Capitalism, at its rankest form, is not a humanistic economic system. It allows the most powerful to tear into the economic fabric of the least powerful. It allows people with big money to control people with no money, low money and small money in many ways including politically because the people with the money the determinant of who runs for office.​ <tbody> </tbody>

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[LandArchDawg]

Repave all the interstates. That'll fix everything.**

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[Shmuley]

You might have to sell that $89,000 car.

 

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

Yes, but you can't fix the infrastructure when you play favoritism and reverse-racism, which will only increase from what is already unfathomable levels in the city. So no, Chokwe will not do anything to fix the city because he will only further damage the infrastructure. I'm more worried about issues involving safety and the police force.

 

[Beretta.sixpack]

Fish, you sound like a mirror image of my household.....hell we may know each other.....I have one at FPDS and pre school and a stay at home nanny, only its my wife that holds onto NE Jxn like there is no other place on earth to live.....you know, those old NE Jxners who grew up here and went to Prep? These people are insane.....I grew up in madison and my family laughs at me.....i feel ya though about the city council.....but that is the first I have heard about CL having kidney failure....

those private school bills are only getting higher and higher too.....maybe time to rock this joint....

Chowke won't get much done with the City Council that we have in place.
Jackson will just continue to stagnate until Chowke dies from kidney failure. I have heard he doesn't have too long left on this earth.

I will only leave Jackson when I can't afford private schools for my children.
I am currently sending one to pre-school and one to FPDS and I have a nanny, but $18K per year x 2 might be too much when they get older.

The other option is for NE Jackson, Fondren & Belhaven to succeed from Jackson and form their own city. All it takes is 3,000 signatures to get it started per a Mississippi statue. But I would think they would also want the downtown area to be included.

 

[ShrubDog]

people throw around the word "infrastructure" a lot, like thats all it takes

It is the critical vertebrae of the backbone for new growth. Paved roads brings more traffic, more business and more mixed use developments where people live and work.... and more federal funding for green design. That is how you grow.

 

[GhostOfJackie]

It's fun to get all up in arms about the end of the city as we know it, though. People have been doing it after every single mayoral election save for the time Frank Melton got elected. Remember how awesome he was going to be for the city? Man, he sure shored up the crime problem didn't he?

Jackson needs to fix it's failing infrastructure more than anything else, and that's the bottom line (to steal from Melton). If Lumumba can somehow pull that off, then people are going to forget that he's some radical, kitten eating, baby punting, triple Muslim, gay marrying, or whatever your bogey man of choice is.

If by infrastructure you mean "crime problem so people with sense and a job will start moving back to Jackson".... then yes, Jackson needs to fix it's failing infrastructure.

 

[thatsbaseball]

It`s a common problem in all third world countries.