Some good news

[615dawg]

Madison Preparatory Academy will be built at the corner of Sowell and I-55. Amazon is paying for a good portion of it, and I understand there will not be a bond issue for the public funds. The number I heard is north of $100 million.

It will be a dramatic change to education in Madison County. It is modeled after a school in Baldwin County, Alabama that just opened.

Home - Baldwin Preparatory Academy

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Baldwin Preparatory Academy Innovating Career-Tech High School Education to Empower Tomorrow's Workforce Today - Baldwin County Alabama Economic Development Alliance | BCEDA

As Baldwin Preparatory Academy opens its doors to the inaugural classes of career-tech students this fall, the Baldwin County Economic Development Alliance is thrilled to provide an inside look at this pioneering educational institution. This innovative school is positioned to leave a lasting...

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[ckDOG]

Interesting. Who is eligible to enroll? Tuition?

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Will it have sports???? Amazon funding NIL directly

 

[615dawg]

Interesting. Who is eligible to enroll? Tuition?

It will be tuition-free. Madison County residents.

 

[dorndawg]

It will be tuition-free. Madison County residents.

Is it a public or private school?

 

[horshack.sixpack]

It will be tuition-free. Madison County residents.

Will there be an student transportation provided throughout the county?

 

[615dawg]

Is it a public or private school?

The two in Alabama are public with a lot of involvement from private industry. There will not be tuition.

This is something never before seen in Mississippi, and has the chance to be incredible. A competent, well-led school district like Madison trying it is exactly what our state needs.

 

[615dawg]

Will there be an student transportation provided throughout the county?

I'm sorry I do not have all the details.

 

[ckDOG]

The two in Alabama are public with a lot of involvement from private industry. There will not be tuition.

This is something never before seen in Mississippi, and has the chance to be incredible. A competent, well-led school district like Madison trying it is exactly what our state needs.

Hopefully successful and a good model to follow going forward for practical education/training and local business investment. I'd love to see the curriculum details in addition to vocational paths that would be offered.

 

[thatsbaseball]

I hope this is true .

 

[patdog]

Isn't this what we called Vo-Tech back in the day? **

Seriously, looks like something that is much needed and could be a great deal for a lot of high school age kids.

 

[615dawg]

Isn't this what we called Vo-Tech back in the day? **

Seriously, looks like something that is much needed and could be a great deal for a lot of high school age kids.

There will be a little of that old vo-tech feel, but I think it will be college preparatory as well.

 

[PhiDawg]

It will be tuition-free. Madison County residents.

Link to news story?

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I'm sorry I do not have all the details.

I was just curious. Thanks.

 

[Howiefeltersnstch]

Good Lord people. Try googling it. He ain't Walter Conkrite

 

[Dawg Raid]

Say no to public school

 

[ckDOG]

Good Lord people. Try googling it. He ain't Walter Conkrite

He is on this one. There is a a bunch of ain't **** on the google machine for this one. 615 is bringing the inside info.

 

[bomanishus]

Weird question, but it has to do with the fact that Madison County has two school districts: the Madison County School District and the Canton Separate School District. These have their own boards, superintendents, and funding. They do not work off of each other.

Having said this, is the above proposal for all of Madison County residents or just Madison County School District residents? I would think the former, but I was wondering.

 

[champdawg.sixpack]

Will there be a student transportation provided throughout the county?

It’s 17 free to all takers in the county. The parents should have some skin in the game and spend the 3$ a day to drive them there. And another $1.75 a day for a bologna and cheese samich (with Dukes) and a bag of chips and an apple

 

[mstateglfr]

- Are Madison schools in need of a quasi-public alternative?

- It'll be interesting to see why the same funding couldn't just be injected into Madison schools thru a spending and development agreement.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

It’s 17 free to all takers in the county. The parents should have some skin in the game and spend the 3$ a day to drive them there. And another $1.75 a day for a bologna and cheese samich (with Dukes) and a bag of chips and an apple

Not sure what this means, but we have public schools in Madison already that serve everyone and we have multiple private schools. What problem is this trying to solve?

 

[Howiefeltersnstch]

He is on this one. There is a a bunch of ain't **** on the google machine for this one. 615 is bringing the inside info.

I googled it and it popped right up. The problem its trying to serve is an improved education no doubt. College prep as well as job specific training.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Will it have sports???? Amazon funding NIL directly

Looking at 615’s linked Baldwin example, it doesn’t look like there will be any sports there.

If I had to guess, students who want to play sports will have to forego them altogether.

I’m gonna say that while it’ll attract students, that it’s not going to be for everyone.

Looking at the Baldwin faculty roster (appears small at the moment— 60 faculty and staff total listed with about 25 percent being support staff and administrative) as well as its advertised positions, the smart move for Madison would be a smaller school that can become bigger easily— rather than too much too soon.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Looking at 615’s linked Baldwin example, it doesn’t look like there will be any sports there.

If I had to guess, students who want to play sports will have to forego them altogether.

I’m gonna say that while it’ll attract students, that it’s not going to be for everyone.

Looking at the Baldwin faculty roster (appears small at the moment) as well as its advertised positions, the smart move for Madison would be a smaller school that can become bigger easily— rather than too much too soon.

Oh I know. This is essentially Amazon's training academy.

Curious what tech industries/companies Baldwin is training. There's some stuff over in Mobile and Airbus of course but didn't know about any real big things in Baldwin itself. Guess they are looking for people to live in Baldwin and work in Mobile.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Oh I know. This is essentially Amazon's training academy.

Curious what tech industries/companies Baldwin is training. There's some stuff over in Mobile and Airbus of course but didn't know about any real big things in Baldwin itself. Guess they are looking for people to live in Baldwin and work in Mobile.

The faculty & staff roster is pretty general and filled with the usual suspects of 2020s Career options at the post-secondary level.

There are a higher number of nurses though. Seems odd to teach nursing to teens at that level if only because it seems to me that it’s long been more of a second career option for a lot of folks.

But maybe the idea is to introduce the idea earlier? And that’s laudable…

 

[paindonthurt]

- Are Madison schools in need of a quasi-public alternative?

- It'll be interesting to see why the same funding couldn't just be injected into Madison schools thru a spending and development agreement.

Probably bc the private funding wants to do as they choose with their money which is how it should be.

 

[patdog]

Probably bc the private funding wants to do as they choose with their money which is how it should be.

True. But I think the real question is why aren't the public schools everywhere already offering a curriculum similar to this?

 

[ckDOG]

I googled it and it popped right up. The problem its trying to serve is an improved education no doubt. College prep as well as job specific training.

That's a school in Louisiana unless google hates me and wants to hide anything related to what's going up in Madison co MS

 

[ckDOG]

True. But I think the real question is why aren't the public schools everywhere already offering a curriculum similar to this?

Status quo. Resistance to change. Stubborn commitment to the existing way is the right way. Hiring the right people to teach technical skills (they probably don't meet the requirements to be hired as a "teacher"). All that.

It's insane that we've gone generations now without large scale votec/tech options in our schools - public and private.

 

[paindonthurt]

True. But I think the real question is why aren't the public schools everywhere already offering a curriculum similar to this?

Thats an excellent question that i'd love to answer but I know how it will turn out.

 

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[DesotoCountyDawg]

Status quo. Resistance to change. Stubborn commitment to the existing way is the right way. Hiring the right people to teach technical skills (they probably don't meet the requirements to be hired as a "teacher"). All that.

It's insane that we've gone generations now without large scale votec/tech options in our schools - public and private.

And on top of that we are going to have a serious problem because no one is going into the skilled labor force. Votech could really open some eyes and some doors for people who otherwise wouldn’t know anything about it.

You can love or hate Mike Rowe but he spot on with this. Ask anyone who owns an HVAC, plumbing, or electrical business and see what they say about finding labor.

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

And on top of that we are going to have a serious problem because no one is going into the skilled labor force.

That's the best thing that could happen to the votech arena is for AI to start coding. And with the amount of new developments going up right now it's obvious that there are a lot of skilled people out there. You can't go 4 miles down any Interstate or a major US Highway without seeing a development taking place whether it's a commercial property a residential neighborhood or a government project.

 

[paindonthurt]

And on top of that we are going to have a serious problem because no one is going into the skilled labor force. Votech could really open some eyes and some doors for people who otherwise wouldn’t know anything about it.

You can love or hate Mike Rowe but he spot on with this. Ask anyone who owns an HVAC, plumbing, or electrical business and see what they say about finding labor.

And a lot of that work isn’t super demanding physically and pays really well with no debt and on the job training.

Sure there are days that can be rough but a lot of standing around days too.

BUT EVERYONE NEEDS TO GO TO COLLEGE!!!

 

[The Peeper]

Weird question, but it has to do with the fact that Madison County has two school districts: the Madison County School District and the Canton Separate School District. These have their own boards, superintendents, and funding. They do not work off of each other.

This is a huge problem in MS school funding, no reason that Madison County needs to have two separate districts. There are numerous examples of this in MS. In the 82 Mississippi counties we have 137 districts, 137 superintendents, bus systems, numerous deputy assts, etc. Its ridiculous the waste in education it causes.

Harris County Tx (Houston) has the largest school district in TX with 184,000 students and has 1 superintendent and 1 district. Madison County/Canton has 16,200 students and 2 superintendents and 2 districts

 

[ckDOG]

And on top of that we are going to have a serious problem because no one is going into the skilled labor force. Votech could really open some eyes and some doors for people who otherwise wouldn’t know anything about it.

You can love or hate Mike Rowe but he spot on with this. Ask anyone who owns an HVAC, plumbing, or electrical business and see what they say about finding labor.

EXACTLY. Classical education shouldn't be ignored bc it can teach you how to think through problems, but clearly it fails in modern life prep skills for a lot of the population. Unless you have a family member that guides you towards getting technical skills for a good job after high school, you are probably getting left behind or have catch up work to do after graduating standard high school.

Would also get something more tangible/obtainable dangling in front of kids from poor families that provide a reasonable out from a cycle of poverty or just cycle of low skill low paying jobs. Tell them they need to go to college to compete vs get them acquainted with HVAC tech and which is more likely to get them motivated and prepared to produce as a young adult?

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

This is a huge problem in MS school funding, no reason that Madison needs to have two separate districts. There are numerous examples of this in MS.

Exactly. Desoto County is one school district.

 

[paindonthurt]

This is a huge problem in MS school funding, no reason that Madison County needs to have two separate districts. There are numerous examples of this in MS. In the 82 Mississippi counties we have 137 districts, 137 superintendents, bus systems, numerous deputy assts, etc. Its ridiculous the waste in education it causes.

Harris County Tx (Houston) has the largest school district in TX with 184,000 students and has 1 superintendent and 1 district. Canton has 3,200 students

And out of those 137 superintendents how many are paid a top 7% income and run failing districts?

 

[Dawgbite]

Oh I know. This is essentially Amazon's training academy.

Curious what tech industries/companies Baldwin is training. There's some stuff over in Mobile and Airbus of course but didn't know about any real big things in Baldwin itself. Guess they are looking for people to live in Baldwin and work in Mobile.

I didn’t realize it but there is quite a bit on industry in north Baldwin county. There is an industrial road that runs parallel to Hwy 59 from I10 to Bay Minett that has buildings after buildings. No idea what is in them but people are working there.

 

[Howiefeltersnstch]

That's a school in Louisiana unless google hates me and wants to hide anything related to what's going up in Madison co MS

I typed in Amazon partners with public schools in Madison ms. Idk ? Maybe I need to look again. Mississippi schools have improved quite a bit over the last few years but generally speaking public schools are straight trash. Plenty of kids graduating that cant read barely speak English and are incapable of using their math skills to count out change. Lots of overpaid superintendents and money wasted on new buildings and things not directly related to reading writing and rithmetic