Hopefully some are about to go to prison for Treason
But to answer the question. Trump can’t win. Doesn’t listen to Fraudci he’s screwed. Goes on his own he’s screwed.
It’s pointless because in the end. Orange Man Bad
Sturgis, no masks required
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Hopefully some are about to go to prison for Treason
But to answer the question. Trump can’t win. Doesn’t listen to Fraudci he’s screwed. Goes on his own he’s screwed.
It’s pointless because in the end. Orange Man Bad
That’s it? That’s the only thing? Alright, Good to know.
Hey everybody, if you’re keeping score at home, that’s the ONLY thing trump has done wrong, is listen to Fauci. So, he’s been that one decision away from being absolutely perfect according to this guy. Ballsy take grassy. Sounds loaded with intelligence too might I add. You don’t sound ignorantly biased whatsoever! Don’t budge bro! Keep fighting the good fight till the end man.
If he doesn’t believe Fauci, he should stand on his principles and not parrot what he says IMO.
Trav, sounds like you got TDS. Don’t go looting tonight.
so what do you think would’ve happened if had Trump went against Fraudci? Like to see your spin on this.
Whatever you say man. You just point me in the direction with your educational thoughts and clear rationality and I’ll know I’m going in the right direction buddy.
What’s the point of a president even having a cabinet of advisers?
What could have been worse Willy? The left already hates him. I’d respect him more for taking a stand than for falling in line with all the other lemmings. He won the election for being against the establishment. Now he’s part of it.
Just wear your mask, Trav. I’m not and I don’t care. I don’t go to businesses that require masks.
See? More intelligent input! Like I said, stay strong buddy!!! Don’t budge an inch by god!!
And by god, you can do as you please! Boycott those businesses! You can refuse to go in any business you choose, but without a mask, you won’t be coming into mine.
I know Fraudci was a previous holdover from previous admins. So yeah , Trump made a mistake listening to that rat bastard.
lol, It’s ok. I don’t need any more butt plugs, Trav.
I trust Fauci about as far as I can throw him. Same goes with 99% of everyone involved in anything political. It’s a cesspool.
Good to know buddy!!! Hopefully they’re still good until we can all open back up without masks! [roll]
Oh, I'm happy to correct it... one too many "9's".
"Huge flaw"... lol.
Coronavirus Recovery Rates
Scientists and researchers are constantly tracking infections and recoveries. But they have data only on confirmed cases, so they can’t count people who don’t get COVID-19 tests. Experts also don’t have information about the outcome of every infection. However, early estimates predict that the overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%.
https://www.webmd.com/lung/covid-recovery-overview#1-2
Cases are the worst thing to follow. If 5-10% of people were dying it would be a big deal. It’s dangerous to old, unhealthy people. To the rest of us, it’s little more than a nuisance.
And really, my point is this:
1. We don't know ANYTHING about those folks that recover and don't get counted... could easily be a HUGE number.
2. We've all seen the reports of deaths attributed to China virus... but weren't accurate. No way to know that number.
Step 1: Look at the numbers in that quote.
Step 2: Look at the numbers you used.
Step 3; (This is a toughy) Now use numbers larger than one hundred and see what you did with the math.
Try hard! I know you can do it!
Maybe you've haven't had reading comprehension yet in grade school.
I'll type it r-e-a-l s-l-o-w.
Its a direct quote from the article.
In addition, folks question the numbers for the reasons listed above... but that's gonna require some critical thinking skills... which, evidently you haven't developed yet. Don't feel bad... not everybody learns at the same rate.
You just keep thinking you’re right with your complete asinine logic and I’ll just sit back and watch you work this mental Rubik’s cube of a problem in your head.
Again, for at least the 3rd time... the numbers are quoted from WebMD. I didn't calculate ANYTHING.
So you're more knowledgeable than the doctors and medical professionals that contribute to WebMD?
Ok... lol.
Stick with Snopes... more your speed.
Let me help you out and put you out of your misery. The numbers YOU QUOTED said between 97% and 99.75%. When you’re talking about large numbers, like our population of roughly 330,000,000 people, that’s a difference of around 9,000,000 people. YOU then used the number 99.96%. That’s (.04% of the population vs the 3% that was on the low end of the range) 132,000 people of our population. So you left out the lower part of the estimated range to fit your agenda, skewed by the difference of 8,868,000 people. So YOU took one part of that quote and completely skewed it. Now you look like a fool.
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You are finally correct about something. You did not calculate anything before using that for the point YOU were trying to make. You obviously don’t understand big numbers, like, over 100.
A 99.96 recovery rate means an IFR of .04%. The CDC has estimated rates ranging from .26% to .67% for the actual IFR. .04% might be a bit optimistic, but it's a lot closer to the truth than the ludicrous rate of nearly 3% that the virus fans keep believing is the actual death rate. The mistake, of course, is not realizing that there are probably as many as 10 actual cases for every one confirmed case, so a confirmed case fatality rate of 3% likely means an actual death rate of .3%.
The recovery rate isn’t the amount that have died compared the the total population. It’s compared to the number of people who have gotten it and recovered, hence the word “recovery”.
If you’re saying way more people have gotten it than what has been recorded, then you’re saying it’s spreading way faster than we think. Break it down however you want, but whether the death rate is 3% or .3%, I’d still like to make an attempt to slow it down.
I am only saying what the CDC is saying. There is quite a bit of disagreement among experts with respect to many things with this virus- that it is far more prevalent than reported is not one of them. What little dispute I've seen on this issue is whether it's five time more prevalent, ten times more prevalent, etc.
I am well aware that the recovery rate is not based on the entire population. If a 1000 people have it, and three die, that's a IFR of .3% and a recovery rate of 99.7%, unless the definition of the recovery rate excludes people who live but have ongoing complications from the infection.
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If you are saying the mortality rate is more .3% than 3%, then the only way to make that conclusion, would be to say the actual number of people who have contracted the virus is 10x what is recorded. You said that, not me. If it’s half of that, then we’ll say 1.5%. Then just up the contracted number to 5x the recorded number. If you’re saying the number of recorded people with the virus is absolutely exaggerated and is equal to or lower than what they say, then the death rate goes up from 3%. So what point are you making? It can’t be both.
You said this.....
Then you said this.
Which one is it? There’s either more cases than reported or there are less. It can’t be both.
Then you said this.
Which one is it? There’s either more cases than reported or there are less. It can’t be both.
Again, it's not what I'm saying, but what the experts are saying. I'm only repeating. The CDC estimated that, based on serology tests, the actual infection rate is between 6 and 24 times as high as the confirmed rate (and it seems that 10 times is more or less the baseline guess in general from experts) and this is not based on my opinion, but on the evaluation of experts at the CDC and elsewhere based on serology testing.
To summarize, right now, we have a CFR of roughly 3% (though it is dropping as testing increases- it was close to 7% in April, when generally only the most serious cases were even detected, largely due to a shortage of tests at the time). If there are five times are many actual cases as confirmed cases, the actual death rate is .6%; if 10 times as many, the death rate is .3%, and if 20 times as many, .15%. And of course this means that there are many more cases than are known, which is why we can't just easily knock this thing out by quarantining anyone who is positive, since there are multiple unknown positive people (many of whom are asymptomatic) for every one positive person.
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I never said there were less cases. Perhaps I could have been clearer in my post, but I'll rephrase. Experts disagree about many things with this virus. One thing that they do not disagree on is this- that the virus is far more prevalent than reported. The question is, exactly how much more prevalent (five times as much, ten times as much, or more).
Mark Twain was right.
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