That's how you take bad to worse Brownlee.

mstatefan88

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Got to throw it to the cutoffby the pitchers mound or at least in the direction of home. You don't do that unless you are damn sure you can get the out at 3rd.That's simple outfield stuff right there. If that were Renfroe he makes the right play there. Don't understand the decision togo to 3rdby Brownlee.
 

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Norris has to block a rolling baseball right there, bottom line. Other than the throw being weak, Brownlee did nothing wrong there
 

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You throw the ball to the middle of the diamond because now a straight throw to 3rd allows the runner from 1st to advance to second. You throw that ball to the middle of the diamond 99% of the time. That's just the play you make and Brownlee should know that. Why do you think Graveman ran behind home plate? Because that's the direction the throw is supposed to go.
 

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Make the throw to second and it's 3-2 with runners on first and third and the double play gets you out of it.

And the error was on Brownlee, so argue with the scorer about that.
 

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You don't have to throw home on that play if you have no chance. That runner going to second didn't cost us anything, but Norris not blocking the grounder Brownlee threw him cost us. There should be a cut off to third on that play as well. Brownlee did nothing wrong and with a stronger throw could have had a play at third. Never a chance to throw the speedster out at home
 

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I agree with you though. It should be on Brownlee. **** throw to the wrong place. Norris probably should have fielded it, but it was just the wrong play by Brownlee all around.
 

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Disagree that it was a bad decision. I feel like if the cut off man to third would have been there, then it wouldn't have looked like a bad decision. And if Norris blocks it like anybody should then there is no score. I do understand what you guys are saying though...just feel Brownlee did nothing wrong but make a weak and off line throw
 

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You aren't making the throw toward home to get the runner. You're making the throw to the middle of the diamond so the cutoff near the pitchers mound can make a play at any base more easily. Guythat gets thehit rounds 1sttrying togo to 2ndthinking the throw is going home getspicked off by the cutoff in the middle of the diamond. Guy rounds 3rd too hard and the guy in the middle making the cutoff can throw back to 3rd. He can also relay to home if the throw is off line too much. There is a ton of stuff the middle of the diamond cutoff can do that makes way more baseball sense than letting someinjured RF "try to make a play". </p>
 

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Nobody was there. That's not Brownlee's fault. You are saying it was a bad decision, but if the guy was there to cut it, he would have. I've played outfield before, so yes, I get it
 

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The 1st baseman is the cutoff on a throw to home there, and one f the middle infielders is the cutoff to 3rd. I didn't see a middle infielder there to cut that throw, and Rae was between the mound and 1st base to cut the throw to home. So your middle of the diamond argument doesn't make sense. Brownlee threw a ball that rolled through the middle of the infield grass....how much more "middle of the diamond" can you get? If the middle infielder that was supposed to be cutting a throw to third had been there, then it would have been cut. That's not Brownlee's fault.
 

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That ball goes on a line toward home plate where Rea is sitting to cut off. I never said anything about a middle infielder cutoff. Not sure where you got that from. You throw the ball on or near a line toward home plate which would be in a direction that Rea can cut it off. Then he has a play at any base from the middle of the diamond. Like I said, that's where the throw should go 99% of the time.
 

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Rae is not cutting from the middle of the field, he is cutting from between the mound and 1st base because he is supposed to be lining up a throw from Brownlee to home plate. If Brownlee sees no shot at getting the guy at home, but a chance at the guy at third....he doesn't have the option of going to Rae and then Rae going to third with it. That would take WAY too long. He has the option to get the guy at third if he thinks he has a chance. Our 2nd baseman is supposed to be the cut off man between Brownlee and third on that play, if Brownlee chooses to go that way. Our 2nd baseman was nowhere to be found, which s not Brownlee's fault. Had our 2nd baseman been where he should have been, he cuts that throw right between the mound and second base....which would have kept that runner from going to second.

By the way, the runner didn't even advance to second until Norris let the ball get by him. He was not moving up when the ball got to Norris.

Just forget it, we are beating a dead horse. We aren't winning this one anyway
 

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Norris just stops the damn baseball, it's still just 3-2 w runners at 2-3 with 1 out. Norris and Frost both screwed good pitching today by bonehead errors that cost is 3 runs.