The City of NY has always been fairly Liberal in my lifetime. After last night's results...

GDead_Tiger

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Zohran actually did pretty well with some of the Trump-curious/Trump voting (not supporting but voting) minority communities in the outer boroughs. He was laser focused on affordability. The entire campaign was about that. All about those “kitchen table issues”

Also, it’s about the other candidates. Sliwa is never getting elected. People also despise Cuomo. He hated the city when he was governor, there is a ton of bad blood there, people remember it, and he still clearly doesn’t care for the senate. Not to even mention his sexual harassment scandals that led him to resign as governor
 

Unifex

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NYC mayoral election isn’t a sign of that but all of the other elections certainly are
Agreed, the bar was set pretty high and the dems still overperformed nationally. Pubs will have a choice in this next year. Return to the rule of law and leave off this dalliance with Trumpism or be voted out. He will maintain his cultish base that has been programmed by Fox Entertainment, but the will only be the majority in a limited number of states/districts.
 

Chumpsky

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Trump will be single most reviled figure in America politics when it’s all said and done. Disgust with what he is doing to America will drive dem turnout in 26 unlike any that’s ever been scene before. Mark the tape.
Will be?
 
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SDTiger9

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I’ve been very anti parties for 20+ years. Why? Fundamentally they are hate groups. They intentionally exclude half the population at the core and have been eroding support for decades. It’s been proven they cannot sustain control because they only serve a portion of their constituents while constantly alienating those who don’t support them.

It’s like marriage. You have a set of 10 promises made at the offset. And for those that end in divorce (50%) and over time there’s fulfillment of maybe 2 things, 3-4 things sort of, and a complete abandonment of 3-4 other things. Then, when you raise objection, you’re castigated as a hater, a RINO, an antisemite, a racist, a loser. As opposed to someone pointing out the lack of fulfillment of promises that were raised. People are sad when couples get divorced. Yet many times people realize it’s for the best, bound to happen from toxic relationships.

Politics are a cancer in this country because zealots are unwilling to see things as they are. And the hate groups (aka political parties) along with their propagandists in media tell everyone how wrong they are.

What happens?
Voters are a combination of desperate and/or experimental. Anyone standing up and saying the Dems or Pubs are the greatest thing are not part of the problem. They are the problem. You must execute. Our beloved Dabo has a very low approval rating right now. In 2019, I’m sure it was 95%. Now, it’s 25% or whatever. Why? He simply hasn’t been in touch with reality.

So people turn to Trump. Mamdani. It’s a cry for help. Trump has a series of wins, indifference and losses right now. And he will lose the midterms if the country doesn’t get disclosure on the abuse of young women and the cost of living, it’s that simple.

Last night was a subtle reminder. It’s mathematically an impossible standard to live in NYC right now. And you’re surprised the people didn’t vote for a man who left the NY governor job in disgrace? And was supported by those they can’t stand. Trump supporting Cuomo is Liz Cheney level supporting Kamala, dumb.

Will NYC get better or worse, IDK. But blaming people for divorcing a politic model that’s been anti democratic, anti service, anti affordable is a direct reminder that the 2 mafias that run this country has been abusive to the public it says it serves.
 

GDead_Tiger

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Agreed, the bar was set pretty high and the dems still overperformed nationally. Pubs will have a choice in this next year. Return to the rule of law and leave off this dalliance with Trumpism or be voted out. He will maintain his cultish base that has been programmed by Fox Entertainment, but the will only be the majority in a limited number of states/districts.
Sherill in NJ stomped Ciattarelli. The polls had been relatively close and she won by single digits. Flipped a ton of counties back to the Dems or ran up huge margins. She got more votes than Harris (in an off cycle election) in at least one county (it is 82% Hispanic).

Spanberger ran it up in VA too, winning heavily with young men. VA state legislature was 51-48 Dem and now the Dems might have a supermajority. Every single county in VA shifted to the left compared to 2024.

In CA, prop 50 did better than Harris in Orange County
 
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tigfan92

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Zohran actually did pretty well with some of the Trump-curious/Trump voting (not supporting but voting) minority communities in the outer boroughs. He was laser focused on affordability. The entire campaign was about that. All about those “kitchen table issues”

Also, it’s about the other candidates. Sliwa is never getting elected. People also despise Cuomo. He hated the city when he was governor, there is a ton of bad blood there, people remember it, and he still clearly doesn’t care for the senate. Not to even mention his sexual harassment scandals that led him to resign as governor
This is the biggest thing the Republicans are missing. Everything is unaffordable for a ton of Americans. You get a vibrant, fast talking candidate that is focused on that, and they're going to win. The GOP needs messaging help in a big way.
 

RichOne420

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I’ve been very anti parties for 20+ years. Why? Fundamentally they are hate groups. They intentionally exclude half the population at the core and have been eroding support for decades. It’s been proven they cannot sustain control because they only serve a portion of their constituents while constantly alienating those who don’t support them.

It’s like marriage. You have a set of 10 promises made at the offset. And for those that end in divorce (50%) and over time there’s fulfillment of maybe 2 things, 3-4 things sort of, and a complete abandonment of 3-4 other things. Then, when you raise objection, you’re castigated as a hater, a RINO, an antisemite, a racist, a loser. As opposed to someone pointing out the lack of fulfillment of promises that were raised. People are sad when couples get divorced. Yet many times people realize it’s for the best, bound to happen from toxic relationships.

Politics are a cancer in this country because zealots are unwilling to see things as they are. And the hate groups (aka political parties) along with their propagandists in media tell everyone how wrong they are.

What happens?
Voters are a combination of desperate and/or experimental. Anyone standing up and saying the Dems or Pubs are the greatest thing are not part of the problem. They are the problem. You must execute. Our beloved Dabo has a very low approval rating right now. In 2019, I’m sure it was 95%. Now, it’s 25% or whatever. Why? He simply hasn’t been in touch with reality.

So people turn to Trump. Mamdani. It’s a cry for help. Trump has a series of wins, indifference and losses right now. And he will lose the midterms if the country doesn’t get disclosure on the abuse of young women and the cost of living, it’s that simple.

Last night was a subtle reminder. It’s mathematically an impossible standard to live in NYC right now. And you’re surprised the people didn’t vote for a man who left the NY governor job in disgrace? And was supported by those they can’t stand. Trump supporting Cuomo is Liz Cheney level supporting Kamala, dumb.

Will NYC get better or worse, IDK. But blaming people for divorcing a politic model that’s been anti democratic, anti service, anti affordable is a direct reminder that the 2 mafias that run this country has been abusive to the public it says it serves.
The low IQ simps keep this corrupt 2 party system in power. They literally ignore 100+ years of both sides putting banks and corporations above the people.
 

willydee1

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Zohran actually did pretty well with some of the Trump-curious/Trump voting (not supporting but voting) minority communities in the outer boroughs. He was laser focused on affordability. The entire campaign was about that. All about those “kitchen table issues”

Also, it’s about the other candidates. Sliwa is never getting elected. People also despise Cuomo. He hated the city when he was governor, there is a ton of bad blood there, people remember it, and he still clearly doesn’t care for the senate. Not to even mention his sexual harassment scandals that led him to resign as governor
You got it.

I think the irony here is that a lot of the people who prefer far left candidates also supported Trump over Clinton/Harris. Working class voters. They don’t care if it’s far left or right…they just feel ignored.
 

CU_4734

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I’d be shocked if the shutdown doesn’t end this week now. Dems are playing a good game right now.

Also, I’m a moderate but I don’t think you can put Mamdani and Fateh in the same category. Mamdani ran on affordability. Quit telling me that’s possible. It’s the #1 priority for everyday Americans but it’s not getting the attention it needs.
 

GDead_Tiger

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You got it.

I think the irony here is that a lot of the people who prefer far left candidates also supported Trump over Clinton/Harris. Working class voters. They don’t care if it’s far left or right…they just feel ignored.
Spot on Willy. An irony is Clinton ran on identity (I'll be the first woman president, girlboss) while Harris tried to run on boring kitchen table issues (just like Biden in 2020, but due to Biden she wasn't great at it). But yeah, affordability is one of the biggest issues facing many voters. It is why Trump improved with young men, latinos, and some Black voters (he mainly did pre-Obama GOP numbers with that last group). It is also why that coalition went for the Dems yesterday and most likely will in 2026.

Not enough is being done to get costs down. Obviously deflation across the board is bad but things like housing and childcare are obscenely expensive. My wife and I are very fortunate to own our home but I know so many people my age and younger who have no shot at it. We want to start a family soon and looking at what daycare will cost is insane.

Like you said, many voters don't care that Zohran is a socialist or that Fox says he is a communist. What they see his him running on getting the major costs (housing, childcare, transportation) down. He also ran on making things easier for small businesses (bodegas, corner stores, food carts, taxi drivers) which will also make things cheaper for NYers. Most voters want people who will speak to their concerns.
 

GDead_Tiger

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This is the biggest thing the Republicans are missing. Everything is unaffordable for a ton of Americans. You get a vibrant, fast talking candidate that is focused on that, and they're going to win. The GOP needs messaging help in a big way.
Trump won in 2024 because of the economy (my hot take is that people are just nostalgic about the Obama economy). The GOP hasn't followed up on that at all and seemingly have no plans for it.

Take healthcare costs for instance; people are getting their healthcare premium increase notices and Republicans are freaking out. Mike Johnson is talking about how they will introduce their healthcare plan soon. What plan? They weren't talking about this two weeks ago. My brother works on the Hill for a GOPer. I texted him about the healthcare plan, asking if it was new. He said he had never heard of it so it has to be new.

The biggest political issue of the next 5-10 years is going to be affordability if you ask me.
 

fatpiggy

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This is the biggest thing the Republicans are missing. Everything is unaffordable for a ton of Americans. You get a vibrant, fast talking candidate that is focused on that, and they're going to win. The GOP needs messaging help in a big way.
That all started under Biden when inflation hit 9%. Inflation makes things unaffordable. People make the same amount of money and then everything costs more. Trump has inflation down to around 3% which is still not good enough in my book. But make no mistake, inflation was the #1 reason democrats lost the last election.
 

dpic73

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That all started under Biden when inflation hit 9%. Inflation makes things unaffordable. People make the same amount of money and then everything costs more. Trump has inflation down to around 3% which is still not good enough in my book. But make no mistake, inflation was the #1 reason democrats lost the last election.
Inflation was also at 3% when he entered office so not the flex you think it is. Yes, 9% is bad but that was three years ago and most of us understand how it happened.
 
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