The City of NY has always been fairly Liberal in my lifetime. After last night's results...

SDTiger9

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The low IQ simps keep this corrupt 2 party system in power. They literally ignore 100+ years of both sides putting banks and corporations above the people.
The simps are definitely part of the problem.
But corporate money and the 2 mafias locking out any formidable candidates via:
- big money
- faux lawsuits
- fraudulent smear campaigns
- blocking ballot access
- healthcare and drug cabals
- I could go on

anything to subvert the democratic process. When the Supreme Court ruled in favor of money with Citizens United(aka Citizens Divided), we were done.

Im here for the comments. I’m here for actual patriots. I’m here for the destruction of the 2 mafias who fleece America. They’ve earned it.
 
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fatpiggy

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People have very short term memory if they don't remember that inflation was the #1 reason dems lost the election. Inflation topped out at 9% under the Biden admin. Covid may have influenced it, but they had 3 years after that to get it down and failed. In addition, they tried to pass Build Back Better which was massively inflationary, when inflation was at it's peak. It was a tone deaf maneuver that was only thwarted by Manchin and imo it was a large reason why they lost. People did not trust them to bring prices down.

Additionally, democrats should not be complaining about health care cost inflation. It's named Obamacare.
 

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People have very short term memory if they don't remember that inflation was the #1 reason dems lost the election. Inflation topped out at 9% under the Biden admin. Covid may have influenced it, but they had 3 years after that to get it down and failed. In addition, they tried to pass Build Back Better which was massively inflationary, when inflation was at it's peak. It was a tone deaf maneuver that was only thwarted by Manchin and imo it was a large reason why they lost. People did not trust them to bring prices down.

Additionally, democrats should not be complaining about health care cost inflation. It's named Obamacare.
 
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He knows that. He buys groceries. There isn't a grocery shopper in the country who doesn't know that prices have skyrocketed since Trump was inaugurated.
I don't have a side, but the price of grocery deal was a huge thing before Trump took office. Not saying it's better now or who is at fault, but that stuff went nuts in 2023.
 
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Don't read too much into it. All the other races were in solidly Democratic states and it truely would have been an upset if a Republican won. Would have gotten a better read if some purple states had governor or mayor elections.
I agree. This was a good evening for the Democrats for sure and exactly what they wanted to see. Really the only races in question were the Virginia Governor/AG race and the Mayor of NYC. So the Dems should feel good, but not great and the Republicans should feel a bit uneasy but not alarmed either.

Frankly, the most alarming thing for Republicans came from Trump himself. He explained away the Dem wins not by pointing like above that these were Blue States but by pointing out that he thought the Dems won b/c HE wasn't on the Ballot and because of the Government Shutdown. That lets you know that Trump at least thinks the public is blaming Republicans more than Dems on the Shutdown. It's important to note that Trump won't be on the ballot in 2026 (or 2028) either. If I were a Republican, THAT statement would worry me far more than a few elections in Blue States.

Truly Virginia is a purple state NOW, not historically, as they just had a Republican Governor, Lt Governor, AG, and their Senate was Republican Controlled until 2026.
 
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I agree. This was a good evening for the Democrats for sure and exactly what they wanted to see. Really the only races in question were the Virginia Governor/AG race and the Mayor of NYC. So the Dems should feel good, but not great and the Republicans should feel a bit uneasy but not alarmed either.

Frankly, the most alarming thing for Republicans came from Trump himself. He explained away the Dem wins not by pointing like above that these were Blue States but by pointing out that he thought the Dems won b/c HE wasn't on the Ballot and because of the Government Shutdown. That lets you know that Trump at least thinks the public is blaming Republicans more than Dems on the Shutdown. It's important to note that Trump won't be on the ballot in 2026 (or 2028) either. If I were a Republican, THAT statement would worry me far more than a few elections in Blue States.

Truly Virginia is a purple state NOW, not historically, as they just had a Republican Governor, Lt Governor, AG, and their Senate was Republican Controlled until 2026.
I think this is a misread.
 

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Incredible misdirect from the media.

They blasted Trump (who FTR I don’t like as a man,) for inflation at 3% but conveniently failed to mention that was lower than expected.

Yesterday was a good shot across the bow to Republicans. Not the buttkicking the media is desperately trying to portray but a good wake-up call.

And Mahmadani is a gift to Republicans.
 

GDead_Tiger

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I agree. This was a good evening for the Democrats for sure and exactly what they wanted to see. Really the only races in question were the Virginia Governor/AG race and the Mayor of NYC. So the Dems should feel good, but not great and the Republicans should feel a bit uneasy but not alarmed either.

Frankly, the most alarming thing for Republicans came from Trump himself. He explained away the Dem wins not by pointing like above that these were Blue States but by pointing out that he thought the Dems won b/c HE wasn't on the Ballot and because of the Government Shutdown. That lets you know that Trump at least thinks the public is blaming Republicans more than Dems on the Shutdown. It's important to note that Trump won't be on the ballot in 2026 (or 2028) either. If I were a Republican, THAT statement would worry me far more than a few elections in Blue States.

Truly Virginia is a purple state NOW, not historically, as they just had a Republican Governor, Lt Governor, AG, and their Senate was Republican Controlled until 2026.
Virginia is a bit of a purple state historically, at least in more modern political history. The margin of victory on the governor race and nearly every single county drifting left should worry Republicans. The VA state legislature went from a 51-49 Dem to at least 64-36 Dem. Same thing with NJ. The margin of victory should worry republicans, as should tons of Trump voting or close to it counties there flipping hard Dem. Democrats in GA flipped two statewide seats in.

Edit: I do agree that what Trump is saying should be alarming for Republicans
 

GDead_Tiger

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Incredible misdirect from the media.

They blasted Trump (who FTR I don’t like as a man,) for inflation at 3% but conveniently failed to mention that was lower than expected.

Yesterday was a good shot across the bow to Republicans. Not the buttkicking the media is desperately trying to portray but a good wake-up call.

And Mahmadani is a gift to Republicans.
Mentioned it upthread, and I'd have to find the chart, but the price indexes/inflation have stopped their downward trend that start in the second half of the Biden administration and have been trending up since February

Edit: Also, I don't think Mamdani is the gift GOPers think he is. Making a charismatic, well-spoken, articulate, smiling young man the face of the opposition party? One who repeatedly focuses on affordability?
 
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dpic73

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Incredible misdirect from the media.

They blasted Trump (who FTR I don’t like as a man,) for inflation at 3% but conveniently failed to mention that was lower than expected.

Yesterday was a good shot across the bow to Republicans. Not the buttkicking the media is desperately trying to portray but a good wake-up call.

And Mahmadani is a gift to Republicans.
No, it was a buttkicking. NJ is known to rotate between Democratic and Republican governors and had never gone three terms with a governor from one party, until yesterday, and the R candidate was a decent, likable guy to boot. Sorry dude, she waxed that @SS!

13% margin is whack

 

SDTiger9

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Virginia is a bit of a purple state historically, at least in more modern political history. The margin of victory on the governor race and nearly every single county drifting left should worry Republicans. The VA state legislature went from a 51-49 Dem to at least 64-36 Dem. Same thing with NJ. The margin of victory should worry republicans, as should tons of Trump voting or close to it counties there flipping hard Dem. Democrats in GA flipped two statewide seats in.

Edit: I do agree that what Trump is saying should be alarming for Republicans
Virginia is a MASSIVE federal employer and where the employees live. DOGE PERFORMANCE behavior crushed 3-4 points of favor.
Trump/Pubs sealed the VA Governor to any circus 🎪 🤡 with the govt shutdown. To Virginians, the Feds are withholding money. AND…. AND withholding capital to businesses that benefit from spending…. to Panera to the pizza shop to the fundamentals.

SAFETY and ECONOMICS

Biden blew both.
Trump is blowing ECONOMICS.

And Trump is blowing the EPSTEIN ALBATROSS around his neck. It’s been a COMPLETE EMBARRASSMENT. God rest your souls for anyone not clamoring for justice to a massive amount of young women enslaved, raped, abused for fun, for kompromat, for burning our money both domestically and abroad.
 

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Spot on Willy. An irony is Clinton ran on identity (I'll be the first woman president, girlboss) while Harris tried to run on boring kitchen table issues (just like Biden in 2020, but due to Biden she wasn't great at it). But yeah, affordability is one of the biggest issues facing many voters. It is why Trump improved with young men, latinos, and some Black voters (he mainly did pre-Obama GOP numbers with that last group). It is also why that coalition went for the Dems yesterday and most likely will in 2026.

Not enough is being done to get costs down. Obviously deflation across the board is bad but things like housing and childcare are obscenely expensive. My wife and I are very fortunate to own our home but I know so many people my age and younger who have no shot at it. We want to start a family soon and looking at what daycare will cost is insane.

Like you said, many voters don't care that Zohran is a socialist or that Fox says he is a communist. What they see his him running on getting the major costs (housing, childcare, transportation) down. He also ran on making things easier for small businesses (bodegas, corner stores, food carts, taxi drivers) which will also make things cheaper for NYers. Most voters want people who will speak to their concerns.
here's the problem with affordability, and I'll use your example of childcare. It's too expensive for sure, but why is that? Well, if we start with the concept that, at least for now, in order to keep afloat, the childcare company has to have a means to have revenues either meet or exceed its costs. And costs are substantial. In addition to the normal rents, heat, a/c, general maintenance, internet for example, they are also saddled with a bunch of laws/regulations on child'/teacher ratios, significant insurance bills and constantly increasing wage/benefit packages.

Now, if the government wants to provide all this for no charge to the customer it's likely that the number of parents looking to put their child in childcare will increase (free yields unlimited demand) and the money has to come from somewhere. We saw in NY that people are more than willing to have free childcare as long as they're not paying for it - tax the rich.

Personally, I think this will be a great experiment in NYC. Low rents, cheap groceries, free childcare, free bus transportation, what's not to like. Add in free healthcare and we're almost to Utopia. I'm not one of those that thinks the rich will leave and move to Florida. In fact I heard results from a poll that reflected that more middle to upper middle class folks would be the ones to leave. Hochel has said she won't support higher taxes on the rich but that she would support Mamdani's platform, so something would have to give financially. New York state is already projected to run future deficits so adding more expenses to the budget and staying within balanced budget requirements will take exceptional management.

Anyway, it's going to be interesting
 

dpic73

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here's the problem with affordability, and I'll use your example of childcare. It's too expensive for sure, but why is that? Well, if we start with the concept that, at least for now, in order to keep afloat, the childcare company has to have a means to have revenues either meet or exceed its costs. And costs are substantial. In addition to the normal rents, heat, a/c, general maintenance, internet for example, they are also saddled with a bunch of laws/regulations on child'/teacher ratios, significant insurance bills and constantly increasing wage/benefit packages.

Now, if the government wants to provide all this for no charge to the customer it's likely that the number of parents looking to put their child in childcare will increase (free yields unlimited demand) and the money has to come from somewhere. We saw in NY that people are more than willing to have free childcare as long as they're not paying for it - tax the rich.

Personally, I think this will be a great experiment in NYC. Low rents, cheap groceries, free childcare, free bus transportation, what's not to like. Add in free healthcare and we're almost to Utopia. I'm not one of those that thinks the rich will leave and move to Florida. In fact I heard results from a poll that reflected that more middle to upper middle class folks would be the ones to leave. Hochel has said she won't support higher taxes on the rich but that she would support Mamdani's platform, so something would have to give financially. New York state is already projected to run future deficits so adding more expenses to the budget and staying within balanced budget requirements will take exceptional management.

Anyway, it's going to be interesting
Who knows how successful he'll be but he was the only one speaking to their main concerns. If you listened to any of his long-form interviews, he relates how he went to Trump voters in the outer boroughs to ask why they voted for him and they all said the same thing - lower costs, lower costs, lower costs! He also shared that he's laser focused on cutting costs so his plan isn't only raising taxes. Sounds like the locals care less about his labels and more about what he plans to do for them, but you're right, it will be interesting to see how it turns out and I hope he's successful.
 

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Who knows how successful he'll be but he was the only one speaking to their main concerns. If you listened to any of his long-form interviews, he relates how he went to Trump voters in the outer boroughs to ask why they voted for him and they all said the same thing - lower costs, lower costs, lower costs! He also shared that he's laser focused on cutting costs so his plan isn't only raising taxes. Sounds like the locals care less about his labels and more about what he plans to do for them, but you're right, it will be interesting to see how it turns out and I hope he's successful.
There are many small effort but big impact quality of life impact things he can get done without raising taxes/needing revenue too, such as actually enforcing certain laws or cutting regulations/permit time for small businesses
 

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Flat out lie
I haven't found significantly higher prices. Some items are higher, some are the same and some lower. A lot of your cost depends on where you shop. If you're a whole foods guy, your prices are higher. If you buy a lot of meat - higher: cereals I have for breakfast - somewhat lower, and so it goes. The major cost increase, for me, came during the Biden years, and they're not going down anytime soon. IMO
These were all spectacular blowouts, too.

I think Trump will likely try to suspend the midterms somehow.
just think of all the money we'd save.
 

fatpiggy

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I haven't found significantly higher prices. Some items are higher, some are the same and some lower. A lot of your cost depends on where you shop. If you're a whole foods guy, your prices are higher. If you buy a lot of meat - higher: cereals I have for breakfast - somewhat lower, and so it goes. The major cost increase, for me, came during the Biden years, and they're not going down anytime soon. IMO

just think of all the money we'd save.
I have 4 teenage children and i am in the grocery store probably 3 times a week.

During the Biden admin there was no such thing as a BOGO or any other type of special. Now you can see them on every aisle. I'll give you that the price of beef has increased, but that is the outlier.

Grocery prices skyrocketed under the Biden admin.

Inflation was the #1 reason why democrats lost the election.
 

yoshi121374

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I have 4 teenage children and i am in the grocery store probably 3 times a week.

During the Biden admin there was no such thing as a BOGO or any other type of special. Now you can see them on every aisle. I'll give you that the price of beef has increased, but that is the outlier.

Grocery prices skyrocketed under the Biden admin.

Inflation was the #1 reason why democrats lost the election.

And this dude refuses to acknowledge the effects of Covid and a global shutdown on pricing. Not a serious poster.
 

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He meant design trash cans but still, he does have a plan to cut costs

I don’t know ANY of these specific issues but this tweet reminded me how awful we are at spending based on budget.

The Use It or Lose It mentally of fiscal budgeting.

It’s totally incentivized for reckless expenditures and disincentivizes changes within the year or to aspirationally do something better toward the future. Why burn cash that doesn’t need to be spent?

The only answer is moving around cash flow to each other. A CFO can explain it to me all day but it encourages poor behavior around cost controls and when times get tight.
 
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I have 4 teenage children and i am in the grocery store probably 3 times a week.

During the Biden admin there was no such thing as a BOGO or any other type of special. Now you can see them on every aisle. I'll give you that the price of beef has increased, but that is the outlier.

Grocery prices skyrocketed under the Biden admin.

Inflation was the #1 reason why democrats lost the election.
I honestly can't believe someone had sex with this dude 4 times 😂
 
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I have 4 teenage children and i am in the grocery store probably 3 times a week.

During the Biden admin there was no such thing as a BOGO or any other type of special. Now you can see them on every aisle. I'll give you that the price of beef has increased, but that is the outlier.

Grocery prices skyrocketed under the Biden admin.

Inflation was the #1 reason why democrats lost the election.
BOGO has never waivered for me. Publix near the house so where I typically shop and hasn't changed.

Will say, while I don't believe they've gone down, and do feel they've gone up. I wouldn't describe my groceries as skyrocketing up this year either.
 
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BOGO has never waivered for me. Publix near the house so where I typically shop and hasn't changed.

Will say, while I don't believe they've gone down, and do feel they've gone up. I wouldn't describe my groceries as skyrocketing up this year either.
There were no BOGO's at Publix during the Biden admin. I admit much of it due to covid, but the sale tags at Publix did not return until the Trump admin took office.
 
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There were no BOGO's at Publix during the Biden admin. I admit much of it due to covid, but the sale tags at Publix did not return until the Trump admin took office.
Just unequivocally false. Maybe for your Publix as I won't speak for Chicago or Charleston, but at no point were there no BOGO's at my Publix.

Edit to add: I use instacart, so was able to go all the way back to 2022 to confirm BOGO's on my receipts.
 
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Just unequivocally false. Maybe for your Publix as I won't speak for Chicago or Charleston, but at no point were there no BOGO's at my Publix.

Edit to add: I use instacart, so was able to go all the way back to 2022 to confirm BOGO's on my receipts.

Shocker. Ole Fastball making up a personal story to somehow seem relevent to a discussion.

Sort of like his claims his wife assaulted a trans person.
 
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