The Corey Sanders Show

Greene Rice FIG

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The program turned around AFTER Corey left. Corey was a great talent, but the inflection point of our program was when Corey decided not to come back.
 
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Degaz-RU

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The program turned around AFTER Corey left. Corey was a great talent, but the inflection point of our program was when Corey decided not to come back.
Technically true. But that magical Garden run at the BTT (and I guess the SHU game earlier in the season) was the first thing in the Pike era to really energize the program and the fanbase, and Corey really fueled it.
 

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The program turned around AFTER Corey left. Corey was a great talent, but the inflection point of our program was when Corey decided not to come back.
The program didn’t turn around BECAUSE Corey left. Rather he laid the building blocks for a program that just so happened to fully blossom once he left. Corey brought entertainment and attention to Rutgers basketball that played a big hand in everything that was to come
 

Greene Rice FIG

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The program didn’t turn around BECAUSE Corey left. Rather he laid the building blocks for a program that just so happened to fully blossom once he left. Corey brought entertainment and attention to Rutgers basketball that played a big hand in everything that was to come
We should agree to disagree. We won more B1G games the year he left then the 3 years he was here combined.

People remember the good games he had and are forgetting what he was on the average day. He was an awful shooter and was not a passer when penetrating to the basket. Defenses knew exactly what was going to happen when Corey beat his man off the dribble.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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This is all in your mind. No one cares what happens on Wednesday and Thursday of the conference tournaments.

We all fantasize about the NIT run. No one other than us fans care less about the NIT.

Now that our program is legitimate I don’t know how I or any of us could really get pumped for the NIT.
 

RedTeam1994

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Indiana = so soft.

not denying that Sanders made a spectacular play but what kind of ridiculous non-trap was that on Sanders! definition of matador defense. just really bad
 

MADHAT1

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He turned the program around.
Some credit to Eddie for that.
I give credit to all the blind squirrels that find a nut or two helping them get though the winter.
Eddie did bring in some talent, but didn't win with them.
Corey helped the program, but under Eddie the program looked useless.

By the way : loved Jordan as a player, not so much as RU's MBB HC
 

wheezer

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I have watched the replay many times from the point where Williams parents are interviewed to Corey's slam to get within three
We came back from about 16 down to right in the game i
 

Degaz-RU

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This is all in your mind. No one cares what happens on Wednesday and Thursday of the conference tournaments.
We got to the quarterfinals (Friday) of the Big Ten Tournament and played PURDUE down to the wire in a really exciting game. We lit up the Garden that year and captured the imagination of the entire B1G.

It was absolutely a big deal for Pike and Rutgers to make a splash.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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We got to the quarterfinals (Friday) of the Big Ten Tournament and played PURDUE down to the wire in a really exciting game. We lit up the Garden that year and captured the imagination of the entire B1G.

It was absolutely a big deal for Pike and Rutgers to make a splash.
We lost in the quarterfinals. No one cares about the 1st days of the tournament. We lost on Friday night.

It was a big deal for us fans. The NIT was a big deal for us fans. Losing on Friday of the B1G tournament is not lighting up MSG and not capturing the imagination of the B1G

Can you name any school that captured your imagination that lost in the quarterfinals their conference tournament?
 

sct1111

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Didn't Corey start something called the MidKnight Club or something where they would go practice at the RAC at midnight? I think that was what probably started culture of hard work and dedication.which was passed on.
 

goru7

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We lost in the quarterfinals. No one cares about the 1st days of the tournament. We lost on Friday night.

It was a big deal for us fans. The NIT was a big deal for us fans. Losing on Friday of the B1G tournament is not lighting up MSG and not capturing the imagination of the B1G

Can you name any school that captured your imagination that lost in the quarterfinals their conference tournament?
Greene , you are so out to lunch. Every person in the Big 10 , on the Big 10 network and that entire Purdue team , were talking about Rutgers. It was a Rutgers infomercial . Matter of fact , all the Purdue guys , including their Pros , knew they got a little lucky and hit some tough difficult shots and a 3 to survive. It was the first time the BIG 10 was in NYC for their tourney and the host school showed up and got recognized for the first time. What really comes out in your posts is your hatred of Corey , one of the more dramatic talents we had that had no help to win , but set the foundation and passed the torch to Geo , Ron and the whole crew.
I really wonder some of the crap you post about some of the best players to wear a Rutgers uniform. Disappointing take to day the least.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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I don’t hate Corey. I just think we were better without him. You say my take is bad, but we won when he left. Our offense got a lot better when the basketball was shared.
 
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HatterChat

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Sanders was a legit talent we all can agree could have played anywhere in the big ten. Limited for sure but that Garden run set the stage. Also he is a big supporter of the program since he left from what I hear.
 
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goru7

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I don’t hate Corey. I just think we were better without him. You say my take is bad, but we won when he left. Our offense got a lot better when the basketball was shared.
Our offense hasn’t been better. Go look at your coveted Kenpom offensive stats , they suck. Corey had no one to play with. Mike Williams one of our favorite players to wear the uniform was supposed to be a 3 point specialist but it never materialized. What great Centers did he play with ? What wings ? Geo’s freshman year was so good because Geo was better than we thought and every scouting report singled out Corey. Stop Corey , Stop Rutgers. Your memory is fading fast.
 

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Nothing but appreciation for Corey. He stuck with the program and gave it a little bit of juice and excitement when other players could have just transferred out. He played hard for the school and gave us a few fun moments when we were at the bottom and beginning the total rebuild. Corey was crucial for geo’s development since Corey took the pressure off the freshman. And he left just at the right time to let the new guys take the team over and figure out the next stage in the rebuild and make it their team.
 

Degaz-RU

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We lost in the quarterfinals. No one cares about the 1st days of the tournament. We lost on Friday night.

It was a big deal for us fans. The NIT was a big deal for us fans. Losing on Friday of the B1G tournament is not lighting up MSG and not capturing the imagination of the B1G

Can you name any school that captured your imagination that lost in the quarterfinals their conference tournament?
You’re straining to downplay what was a magical run we made in the Big Ten Tournament, which the BTN crews still talk about to this day. A 14 seed had never made the quarterfinals, and yet there we were going toe to toe with mighty Purdue at the Garden.

That run absolutely put Rutgers basketball “on the map” in the Big Ten, even though we didn’t make it to Saturday.
 

Scarlet Shack

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C’mon Greene

That run in the big ten tournament was a piece of the foundation laid for the program going

It helped with keeping recruiting momentum going

It helped fuel the off season workouts that developed geo and Eugene for the following year …

It got people back into Rutgers basketball …and helped get people in the RAC …which started to get our home court advantage again…

And it gave us a lot of confidence in our team and staff. It took a top ten Purdue playing their A game , shooting in the mid 50s, to keeping us from springing the upset ….the momentum from that helps later

It was a nice piece for us…a block in Building
 

MadRU

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That game was the only Rutgers loss that I rewatched multiple times, well except the last minute. Game was crazy. Corey answered everything Purdue did, except the last minute. Corey made the all tournament team.
 
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RutgHoops

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We should agree to disagree. We won more B1G games the year he left then the 3 years he was here combined.

People remember the good games he had and are forgetting what he was on the average day. He was an awful shooter and was not a passer when penetrating to the basket. Defenses knew exactly what was going to happen when Corey beat his man off the dribble.

We were also better after Eugene left, but I’d argue we were better in spite of him leaving rather than because he left. Think both examples are correlation rather than causation.

Just my $0.02
 

biazza38

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There are actually people in this thread throwing shade at Corey here. You guys are f’ing miserable. We would have been so bad if we didn’t have Corey. He was one of the few reasons this team had a pulse when he was here.
And yes, the two wins at MSG were a big deal. You started to see the identity of a Pike coached team. Rutgers was not going to be an easy out
 

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There are actually people in this thread throwing shade at Corey here. You guys are f’ing miserable. We would have been so bad if we didn’t have Corey. He was one of the few reasons this team had a pulse when he was here.
And yes, the two wins at MSG were a big deal. You started to see the identity of a Pike coached team. Rutgers was not going to be an easy out
Compared to the dark place the program was in just two years prior, those three games at the Garden were incredible. And Corey was a talent we hadn't had in a long time.
 

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C’mon Greene

That run in the big ten tournament was a piece of the foundation laid for the program going

It helped with keeping recruiting momentum going

It helped fuel the off season workouts that developed geo and Eugene for the following year …

It got people back into Rutgers basketball …and helped get people in the RAC …which started to get our home court advantage again…

And it gave us a lot of confidence in our team and staff. It took a top ten Purdue playing their A game , shooting in the mid 50s, to keeping us from springing the upset ….the momentum from that helps later

It was a nice piece for us…a block in Building

This is the big thing. Like @Greene Rice FIG said only the fans cared about it, but it brought the fans back in a BIG way. Fans were always waiting for an excuse to hop back on the wagon. It's the spark that lit the fire.
 
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RU-Choppin-Ohio

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C’mon Greene

That run in the big ten tournament was a piece of the foundation laid for the program going

It helped with keeping recruiting momentum going

It helped fuel the off season workouts that developed geo and Eugene for the following year …

It got people back into Rutgers basketball …and helped get people in the RAC …which started to get our home court advantage again…

And it gave us a lot of confidence in our team and staff. It took a top ten Purdue playing their A game , shooting in the mid 50s, to keeping us from springing the upset ….the momentum from that helps later

It was a nice piece for us…a block in Building
That Tourney run was also the time when the talking heads at the BTN started talking about Rutgers in a different way. It was then that they first realized that Rutgers could turn into a good competitive league program.

It was ABSOLUTELY the turning point for the program under Pikiell.



Finally, Sanders leaving did not make the team better. It was the other players that came in the next year, Harper, Montez, Young as a sit out transfer. Geo developing, Myles Johnson starting to develop as a redshirt Big man, Eugene taking over for Freeman. Shaq Doorson being 2 years removed from his injury. Lots of factors.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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This is the big thing. Like @Greene Rice FIG said only the fans cared about it, but it brought the fans back in a BIG way. Fans were always waiting for an excuse to hop back on the wagon. It's the spark that lit the fire.
Winning brought the fans back....The bandwagon started to fill the last 2-3 years. I doubt we have many, if any, new fans that came on board because Corey Sanders brought the team to the Final 8 of the B1G tournament.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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Take the L here man...youre way off on saying it was meaningless.

Like, way the F off...
It was very meaningful to you and me and other Rutgers fans that were starved and some of which were hanging on a thread.

I remember thinking to myself at the time in MSG we belonged. It was awesome to have relevance.

To the rest of the basketball world? NO

I was also in DC the previous year and it was also great beating Indiana and getting to the next round.
 

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I know the Big Ten win-loss record wasn't great in 2017 but there were several close games that year. I remember being up 1 at Michigan State with under a minute. Beating Seton Hall that year was huge too.

I think Corey was huge in that he was the one player that the new recruits knew about. Definitely brought the excitement back