The Missouri coaching search is very sobering and a reality check for UK fans to watch
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ok, both teams looked bad and both lost. one was playing for something, one not so much.....point?
And a thousand times more likely to be killed by a brother.
if I was an AD I would throw money at Todd Haley to get him into College - I really like his offensive style and I am not a Pitt Fan!
First of all I dont want Barny in anyway to have anything to do with ANY HIRE in the major sports at UK. Barny was pushed out on the basketball end and we see how that turned out. Im guessing the same thing will happen in football when the time comes. The next hire will have to be with a package probably a 1/3 to 1/2 higher then probably should be paid to get the right guy. Then the other shoe to drop will be massive increases in salaries for not good assistants but great assistants. Do those things and football will be huge at UK. Not basketball big, but large all the same. You get an extra $33 million a year from the SEC alone in TV money and we need to spend some of it if for no other reason than a reward to fans that have stuck around for 5-6 decades.
Really...how much did you hear about the cancer before...Bury your head in the sand if you want.. too much of a coincidence... don't kid yourself
Worst post of all time. You have no clue what life is really about.
You should probably just go away and stop posting, forever.
The internet has allowed some people to show how ignorant they really are.
Thank you..somebody needs to get control of these clowns on college campuses
I think the reality is that you have no clue what I am talking about. I stated a series of facts. Which one do you disagree with? Was it the last sentence? I knew that would go over quite a few heads. He was a great coach and by nearly all accounts, a great human being who was thrust into the middle of a shitstorm. He was screwed no matter what he did. Which ever side he took, he was going to be crucified by those on the other side. A good man's legacy was on the verge of being destroyed by no fault of his own.
Every indication prior to the boycott was that Pinkel was planning on coaching next year. Maybe he was going to make a decision after the season. Probably not. Non-Hodgkin lymphoma is a serious condition but one you can live with. Most people live over 10 years with it. Only time will tell how much his life is shortened by the cancer but it is clear that by making the announcement when he did, Gary Pinkel insured that his legacy will remain intact. Most of us would do the exact same thing and it is indeed a great example of finding a silver lining.
Like at Kent State?
I feel bad that people are honestly scared of black youth activism. Does that mean everything done or said is justified or makes sense? No.
So you think that is always the cop's fault?
Also, your perspective on American men losing their way is really naive, misinformed, and yes, sexist. In actuality, many Americans of all races and sexes have lost their way. Parents not being parents but their kids friend instead, kids not being help responsible for their actions, drugs being used for just about everything, people being so selfish that they think the world revolves around them and that everyone else is at fault and they do no wrong. That is widespread, not just men. Adultery happens in over half of today's marriages, with both male and female to blame.
So spare me the cry me a river, nothing is my fault way of thinking. We have e Pugh of that already.
It was actually more of a case at Mizzou of SJW activism than anything else- far left campus radicals. The true face of it- that unforgettable photo of that wackadoodle professor screaming for some "muscle" to eject a media representative from a public area.
I'm a far left radical. I'm even wearing my IWW pin right now. You would be shocked at how many people try to hijack "movements" to pursue their own agendas or to control a message. Which is why I'm a huge proponent of prefigurative political theory and why I continue to find fault in the BLM.
The trick is to distinguish the noise and trash from the legitimate questions and issues being raised.
Well yes I do think the killing of unarmed american citizens by the cops is the cops fault. Your litany of subject matter other than the death of unarmed american citizens at the hands of cops is not germane to this.
If Stoops doesn't work out and we go another direction, the only way we turn this thing around is to offer a big name coach an insane contract offer that he can't refuse. If you don't do this, you will never turn around a losing program. I still think Stoops is the man to turn this program around, but if it turns out he's not, we will need to get out the check book and let the coach write his own check. Someday in the future before i die, i would love the chance to cheer for a winning football program. I know a lot of people think it's almost impossible, but money talks!
what I am actually scared of is kids like this who want to be stroked, their heads rubbed and still be treated like 4 yr olds... then expecting to be our next generation of leaders and what the hell are they going to do when they get out and leave with a degree that's not worth anything and life smacks them right in the face...guess they will have to run to left wing daddy government to bail them out...
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At some point people are going to have to realize that the 19th century of mechanical engineering coupled with the 20th century electrical engineering has and will continue to end the need for human labor. Now with AI starting to impact the workplace people are simply going to have to adjust their thinking about the roles of our institutions as they exist, the old thinking that the cotton gin produced jobs as well as cotton will no longer apply. Production will explode exponentially while need for human labor will drop precipitously. Intelligent machines will do our work for us even to the point of fighting our wars for us. The challenge will be how to give meaning and value to so many peoples lives whose days consist of a lot of free time. The frontier looking forward seems to be bio-engineering so maybe answers will come from that discipline.
Actually, it very much relates. The fact that we are blaming cops for the death of violent criminals it a real problem. People can kill without a weapon. You do understand that right? So if someone, say like Mr. Brown for example, is 3 times the cop's size, he is violently attacking the cop and trying to take the cop's weapon, then what is the cop supposed to do?
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So you're telling us that if you were in a dark alley and was armed (say there had been a mugging, robbery in the neighborhood) and someone was coming at you with a shiny object in their hand and you have a split second to make a decision...you'd just wait to see what would happen?
I don't know who you are having a conversation with in your mind but it's not me. I haven't said anything about violent criminal and there are many, many incidences of unarmed black men being killed, several after being taken into custody. Educate yourself.
No and that is a scenario of your making, a strawman argument that does not address my statement. There are too many cases that this does not even approach the reality of the situation. If you are honestly interested in the truth there is a plethora of video's that can easily be accessed on the internet now made possible by phone camera's. A person doesn't have to remain ignorant these days, they choose to.
I would be willing to bet that Coach Cal would do the same thing, and for the same reasons.
It might bring some "Well, that's the final straw!" comments from a segment of BBN, but I don't think Cal would care too much about that.
Stoops, I don't really have a guess. Probably. Maybe. He is in a different position. Definitely a really tough spot for any coach.
No, black men are more likely to have issues here because they disproportionately commit WAY MORE crime than any other race. I love and work in Memphis. Why don't you come join me and you'll see why this is. and btw, liberals OWN the racial issues in these cities. OWN THEM.
You can pretend that's not true, IDGAF. But your not entitled to your own facts. Police kill more white men than black. The percentage of blacks killed by cops is such a small number you've got to be an absolute agenda driven ******* not to understand it.
The facts and the numbers do not point to racism. It actually points to politically motivated agendas. Since these awful groups are coming after the liberals now, look for the "nicely nice" liberal faux outrage "good white guys" to back off.
People are going to hate no matter what. You can cloud the facts as much as possible and take whatever side makes you "feel" good. Guess what?
people that hate you based on a false narrative are a going to hate you anyway. Wise up.
What kind of men have lost their way? What the hell are you talking about? Are you seriously not willing to look at the facts, regardless of skin, and call it like it is?
These types are exactly why the truth never comes out. When you are only willing to hold one side accountable, theres nothing noble about that. It's easy. What you do is easy. I work with homicide victims, gang victims, and thug criminals every week.
The real protesting should be about what's KILLING all of these AA men, and it's not cops. Without the cops, more would die in these streets. People like you with this twisted out of bounds ideology are the problem. Th racist vote herding by these types is causing hella damage.
I see what you're trying to say, however they're totaly different situations. Missouri is NOT a nationally known school. While Kentucky is mainly known for its basketball, Kentucky athletics are VERY popular nationally. In addition, Kentucky has been a very well known Athletic program for a long, long time. Also, Kentucky may even be one of the top money making schools in the country this coming year. I can't imagine Missouri being anywhere close to that.
While we have sucked in football for decades, there's really no excuse for it and shame on the University for allowing it to happen. If Kentucky made the money high enough, they'd be able to get a good head coach. Maybe not a Saban type, but MUCH better than what we've seen the last 30 years.
It humors me to think of all the caterwauling on this site about picking a coordinator to be your head coach, "you can't learn on the job in the SEC!!"
Because: the two most coveted jobs this year, in a year with more openings than usual, were USC and Georgia - and both hired a coordinator whose never been a head coach before.....
Because: the two most coveted jobs this year, in a year with more openings than usual, were USC and Georgia - and both hired a coordinator whose never been a head coach before.....
Shouldn't you wait to crow about this until Helton & Smart actually, you know, win and accomplish something? They both can still fall flat on their faces y'know, they getting hired does nothing to disprove the caterwauling?
Said it in other threads, say it again: the common occurrence in major college football of hiring coordinators is damned strange. Hell guess it happens frequently in the NFL as well.
The last 10 SEC champion teams were lead by guys who were NOT first time coaches but had done so at prior stops, FWIW.
Point taken - but that's not the point I was making. The screaming around here is we don't take football seriously. That's the backdrop of all the complaining about Barnhart. Who else would hire a coordinator in this league? Well, UGa just did - as did USC, two programs that pretty clearly take football seriously. Yeah, they may fall on their faces. But that's aside what I'm talking about.....
You're right, that is a scenario of my making. But something that could, and probably has happened a number of times, whether one is white or black. I was simply responding to your statement of and I quote...'Well yes I do think the killing of unarmed american citizens by the cops is the cops fault'. And I've seen plenty of the videos. And you can probably find videos of cops shooting someone as they were being attacked with a gun or knife. Guess that's the cops fault as well.
And by the way, JHB, I was really trying to further your point in the OP. It's really easy to get pissed off at the AD for a bad hire. I get that. They make enough money, it's their responsibility, they deserve the blame. But getting the right guy is not easy. It requires a crystal ball. There are some hires where you just scratch your head. Either the AD is in over his head, or he had a less attractive job than what he thought. Most are not like that - of course, every fail looks like idiocy in hindsight. But most of the time, you hire the guy you think can get it done and then you cross your fingers.
I wouldn't want to be an AD in this climate. And all the talk about "let me have the job, I could do it better than him" is like most internet commenting. Stupid.
I wouldn't want to be an AD in this climate. And all the talk about "let me have the job, I could do it better than him" is like most internet commenting. Stupid.
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