The Missouri coaching search is very sobering and a reality check for UK fans to watch

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Shavers48

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At some point people are going to have to realize that the 19th century of mechanical engineering coupled with the 20th century electrical engineering has and will continue to end the need for human labor. Now with AI starting to impact the workplace people are simply going to have to adjust their thinking about the roles of our institutions as they exist, the old thinking that the cotton gin produced jobs as well as cotton will no longer apply. Production will explode exponentially while need for human labor will drop precipitously. Intelligent machines will do our work for us even to the point of fighting our wars for us. The challenge will be how to give meaning and value to so many peoples lives whose days consist of a lot of free time. The frontier looking forward seems to be bio-engineering so maybe answers will come from that discipline.
technology will not lead to free time (leisure). it never has. time is a resource and when it becomes available, uses for it materialize. wealth enables leisure.
 

merrimanm

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I don't know who you are having a conversation with in your mind but it's not me. I haven't said anything about violent criminal and there are many, many incidences of unarmed black men being killed, several after being taken into custody. Educate yourself.
Actually, I am very well educated on the facts. And the number that you threw out there was greatly influenced by the number of criminals that were trying to harm others, or the cop's themselves. You telling me to educate myself and then making those statements is very telling.
I could tell you a story to prove the fact that, yes, there are instances where cops kill people when it isn't necessary. But I could also prove, that in reality, the number killed by cops are much greater due to the actions of the criminal, not the cop.
You mention videos on the internet to educate yourself. You even said that you choose to not be educated if you don't see the facts. So do you choose to not be educated by the facts that there is also many cops who get killed in the line of duty that is never reported as it doesn't fit the agenda of the cry me a river crowd because everyone is keeping us down. If we really want the number to go down, we would teach people the value of a job and education instead of teaching them to be criminals that lead to killing of BOTH criminals AND police officers.
 
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Levibooty

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You're right, that is a scenario of my making. But something that could, and probably has happened a number of times, whether one is white or black. I was simply responding to your statement of and I quote...'Well yes I do think the killing of unarmed american citizens by the cops is the cops fault'. And I've seen plenty of the videos. And you can probably find videos of cops shooting someone as they were being attacked with a gun or knife. Guess that's the cops fault as well.

I don't understand the point you are so desperately trying to make. Are you saying when a cop kills an unarmed black man its the black mans fault?

In any case I'm done talking about this on a football board as it is just a trigger for some immature ranting and name calling that is beneath the dignified threshold that is supposed to be set here.
 

JHB4UK

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BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND:

rumor this late afternoon that tomorrow Mizzou will promote their DC Odom to being head coach

and if Muschamp is indeed hired by USCjr, that would be 3 for 3 SEC East jobs going to DC's this offseason. And 3 times UK avoided a division rival hiring an exciting wide open offense-first coach.
 

Deeeefense

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I would personally send USCjr a check if it would help them land Muschamp :D
 

willievic

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I think part of the problem is that black athletes are more aware they are 8 times more likely to be killed by a policeman than a terrorist. I think comfortable old men and young men with little regard have a hard time digesting this information. And no I'm not being sexist I simply think American men have lost their way more so than women.
I think part of the problem is that black athletes are more aware they are 8 times more likely to be killed by a policeman than a terrorist. I think comfortable old men and young men with little regard have a hard time digesting this information. And no I'm not being sexist I simply think American men have lost their way more so than women.

I agree Levi, but their also more likely to be doing something to get themselves killed. Dealing drugs looks like easy money to a lot of black kids but once they start, it's hard for them to get out. I live in Louisville, and have a lot of young black men working for me. I have paid for them to get and education, had some black policemen, who are my friends talk to them, but it's hard to get them to change. Most of them don't have a father figure in their life.
Their good kids, but they see a drug dealer or pimp, who has a wad of money, and it's hard to get them to listen when their only making $14 or 15 dollars an hour. I don't have the answer, but I wish I did.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 

Goingfor9

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I believe Missouri has had to settle for promoting Ann assistant coach.

Well the guy who just retired has had success as far as they are concerned so why not promote and keep consistency. I don't think Missouris needs are our needs
 

Levibooty

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I agree Levi, but their also more likely to be doing something to get themselves killed. Dealing drugs looks like easy money to a lot of black kids but once they start, it's hard for them to get out. I live in Louisville, and have a lot of young black men working for me. I have paid for them to get and education, had some black policemen, who are my friends talk to them, but it's hard to get them to change. Most of them don't have a father figure in their life.
Their good kids, but they see a drug dealer or pimp, who has a wad of money, and it's hard to get them to listen when their only making $14 or 15 dollars an hour. I don't have the answer, but I wish I did.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

We could have a decent conversation and find common ground but I'm not going to take this board down to the crap level talking about something other posters can't. It's a sports board.
 

rdm1960

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I'm not anti-Mike Leach but did you see what an unranked Washington did to WSU this past week? Whoa!! Talk about being over hyped and over-ranked.
.....Leach is a better coach than what we have....did you see what a unranked vandy team did to us ...? ....and we had to go to over time to beat ,EKU.and lucky to have beat them... All i heared was the hype why not us.....now that my friends is hype....
 

JHB4UK

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Settle? I think this guy is a solid choice. Has a good rep.
solid, not great. zero head coaching experience, and not exactly a hot candidate anywhere else except Memphis.

as they are a rival in our division, I'm pretty happy they didnt hire Dykes or Calhoun or Herman.
 

Johnfarrel

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I said they settled because they tried to hire outside and were not able to find a coach who would take the job. Odom was clearly not their first choice.
 

theoledog

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I agree Levi, but their also more likely to be doing something to get themselves killed. Dealing drugs looks like easy money to a lot of black kids but once they start, it's hard for them to get out. I live in Louisville, and have a lot of young black men working for me. I have paid for them to get and education, had some black policemen, who are my friends talk to them, but it's hard to get them to change. Most of them don't have a father figure in their life.
Their good kids, but they see a drug dealer or pimp, who has a wad of money, and it's hard to get them to listen when their only making $14 or 15 dollars an hour. I don't have the answer, but I wish I did.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
and that is why there are old saw's like.... "you can lead a horse to water....." .... it is what it is.....
 

trueblujr

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.....Leach is a better coach than what we have....did you see what a unranked vandy team did to us ...? ....and we had to go to over time to beat ,EKU.and lucky to have beat them... All i heared was the hype why not us.....now that my friends is hype....
What did Vandy do to us other than have more points at the end? We beat ourselves in that Vandy game.
 

law1127

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Willivic ,you are right on the fundamental problem of trying to break this seemingly,never ending cycle of poor choices,wasted lives! Until you can reunite families of all color, and have that parental influence,guidance , it will be very difficult to positively affect/solve these problems! The government is a poor substitute for committed parents!
 
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