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Again no response when facts are shown to refute their fantasy
Anyone with ANY common sense knows it wasn’t just Trump supporters inside the Capitol on the 6th. But, when the media is anti right, you’re safe.
Listen @Mac9192, based on the overwhelming evidence I choose to believe that yes, it was in fact Trump Supporters inside the Capitol. However, no matter who it was, they are terrorists, plain and simple. Anti-fa or Proud Boys, liberals or Trump Supporters that was an attack on the Capitol and all involved need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
And don't pretend like we're all afraid to condemn Anti-Fa when they pull some ****. I believe we (the liberals) all condemned the riots in Portland after Biden's inauguration.
The media doesn’t see it the way you do. If they did, things wouldn’t be near this bad.
All you wonderful liberals need to read the following concerning why so many people know the election was stolen:
I’ll tell you why those of us that believe some shenanigans went on do and for most of us it probably has to do with the 3 years prior more than the last year.
From the millisecond Trump won the republican nomination, the media went all in on destroying him. It intensified after he won the election as he was immediately referred to as an illegitimate president and still is to this day by some:
For the next 3 years the MSM refused to report any positives about Trump and focused on everything negative not only on Trump, but anyone who supported him. Prime examples of their agenda include the fine people hoax (where full audio exists but the media conveniently cuts it off where he says not the Nazis to maximize outrage) the racist “dog whistles” for an okay symbol... which is somehow okay now? Or the fact we had stories about ice cream and ketchup on steaks and straight up lies about people in MAGA hats; I believe some kid in KY is thankful for that today though. Not a day went by for 1,460+ days that the media didn’t put out a segment or story on orange man bad.
The government (mainly the democrats of course) spent 3 years trying to find ANY reason to remove Trump from office. They tried to impeach him the moment he got into the White House (which sadly now is the new precedent) Rashid Talib said they’d “impeach the mother fhcker” before they had any reason to. Then they impeached him over a phone call concerning quid pro quo...
and then impeached him over “inciting violence” after multiple dem leaders/news anchors said far worse and the year we had in 2020 where D governors watched their cities burn because politics.
All of that ^^^ and I haven’t even brought up the election this year. That alone was enough for me to question the election this year. Add in changing the election laws and having MIBs with no address and a large number of votes only marked Biden, Fulton, GA sending people home but some officials coming back and continuing to count, among other oddities... can you blame anyone for thinking maybe...
Now I bolded that part of your message for a reason. You’re right. For the majority of those people in the government (both sides) they don’t care about us. That’s why Nancy can get her hair done when salons are closed. And why Newsome can eat at closed restaurants with no masks on. We have been lied to repeatedly. But if you can’t see that the media and social media overlords are the megaphones behind the lies and the very people plugging your ears and blindfolding you when they see fit... then you’re the one who has been played sir.
I’ll tell you why those of us that believe some shenanigans went on do and for most of us it probably has to do with the 3 years prior more than the last year.
From the millisecond Trump won the republican nomination, the media went all in on destroying him. It intensified after he won the election as he was immediately referred to as an illegitimate president and still is to this day by some:
For the next 3 years the MSM refused to report any positives about Trump and focused on everything negative not only on Trump, but anyone who supported him. Prime examples of their agenda include the fine people hoax (where full audio exists but the media conveniently cuts it off where he says not the Nazis to maximize outrage) the racist “dog whistles” for an okay symbol... which is somehow okay now? Or the fact we had stories about ice cream and ketchup on steaks and straight up lies about people in MAGA hats; I believe some kid in KY is thankful for that today though. Not a day went by for 1,460+ days that the media didn’t put out a segment or story on orange man bad.
The government (mainly the democrats of course) spent 3 years trying to find ANY reason to remove Trump from office. They tried to impeach him the moment he got into the White House (which sadly now is the new precedent) Rashid Talib said they’d “impeach the mother fhcker” before they had any reason to. Then they impeached him over a phone call concerning quid pro quo...
and then impeached him over “inciting violence” after multiple dem leaders/news anchors said far worse and the year we had in 2020 where D governors watched their cities burn because politics.
All of that ^^^ and I haven’t even brought up the election this year. That alone was enough for me to question the election this year. Add in changing the election laws and having MIBs with no address and a large number of votes only marked Biden, Fulton, GA sending people home but some officials coming back and continuing to count, among other oddities... can you blame anyone for thinking maybe...
Now I bolded that part of your message for a reason. You’re right. For the majority of those people in the government (both sides) they don’t care about us. That’s why Nancy can get her hair done when salons are closed. And why Newsome can eat at closed restaurants with no masks on. We have been lied to repeatedly. But if you can’t see that the media and social media overlords are the megaphones behind the lies and the very people plugging your ears and blindfolding you when they see fit... then you’re the one who has been played sir.
The reversal of policies that are having a positive impact is asinine and doing so by EO fiat isn't going to foster unity. "for the good of the people" means something
I've been over a few times but I find the visual effects arent to my liking...the gifs etc in every post. To each his own I guess.
My narrative...you mean the one where people decked out in Maga Gear with "Don't Tread on Me" flags stormed the Capitol and I assumed they were Trump Supporters. Totally ridiculous on my part, you're right.
In other news Biden is actually giving the Republicans the finger and pushing ahead with passing his stimulus bill through reconciliation. Wonderful move and I hope he continues to push while he has the advantage over the next two years. If he does and actually gets **** done we may be able to avoid a red wave in 2022.
Interesting Article. Also please read all the way to the end. The article gives Trump supporters equal airtime without judgment.
You miss the point. It isn't a call for socialism, it's a call for Republicans to stop treating every damn welfare policy or idea as freaking socialism, because it isn't. As most European countries have proved at this point, you can in fact have decent welfare and not be a socialist hellscape. The conservative politicians in this country are just too damn greedy to ever let that happen because it would hurt their donors bottom lines, thus making themselves a teeny tiny bit less rich. And sadly most conservative civilians fall for it, hook, line and sinker.
Can you provide some context to what it is that Republicans want to keep from happening? What kind of welfare system are we asking for? Why are we asking for a welfare system instead of working towards an agenda that provides everyone with the opportunity to provide for themselves? Shouldn't self sufficiency be the ultimate goal? I have a lot of questions, I know. But what is the end game to what you are talking about with welfare?
My man is not playing games and I am absolutely here for it.
Literally anytime Democrats bring up anything to do with welfare, universal healthcare, UBI, raising taxes on the rich, Republicans scream socialism. Or communism if they really want to get the blood flowing.
As far as the end goal of welfare, I'll say this, no one in this country should be homeless, no one should be starving and no one should not have running water or electricity. In my personal opinion we should have a UBI which everyone gets, and if possible adjust it by the cost of living in that area. If not, send everyone $2,000 a month. This alone would put more power in the workers hands as they wouldn't be absolutely tied to a ****** job with low pay and companies would have to start actually working on improving themselves if they want to keep their workforce. It would also be beneficial to small businesses who can't afford to pay their employees $15 an hour or more, so long as they provided a stable, good job.
As a further, if perhaps unintended side effect it would keep lazy people out of the work force. And I know, I know, it's socialism but honestly who cares what you call it? It's socialism geared to improve capitalism.
Of all the ridiculous things you have posted this has top the list.Lazy should be rewarded for being lazy at the expense of people who are willing to work for what they have.Give me a break anyone who can work but refuses to deserves to be hungry and homeless
Yikes. You seriously suggested that rewarding people for being lazy is a good thing.
I find your thoughts on what we should be doing very class presidenty. As long as we agree that neither side gives a damn about the national debt. We're cool.
I won't spend my time defending or encouraging the republican party, but this is the reason why I will never support the democrat agenda.
Then immigration should be stopped immediately until these ideals (along with improved K-12 education) are attained
I support socialism and come from a nation with low homelessness and crime. But the population is 95%+ Native.
I don't think multiculturalism and socialism are a good match. You need a united population with the same values and goals. Like...nationalism. That is no longer America. Instead Capitalism, rat race and American dream.
No one deserves to be homeless. Even the lazy. It's just what you use to justify looking down on upon others. Someone doesn't want to work so they are less than, almost worthless in your eyes and that is such a sorry mindset. And no it wouldn't be rewarding them for being lazy. It would keep them from being homeless and fed, basic human rights. Rights are not something you have to work for, you get them just because you exist.
I mean really, really think about this, we feed and shelter people who murder and rape. Yes, we feed and cloth and give shelter to people to molest kids, Why the in hell can't we do the same for people whose only crime is yeah, they don't want to work. It's absolutely batshit insane. We absolutely can, and we should. Not saying we should set them up with all the latest luxuries like a PS5, 8k Tv, and whatever else, just to take care of their basic need as people.
You actually didn't read it, did you? Or if you did you misunderstood, we wouldn't be rewarding anyone for being lazy because it would go to everyone. I don't view having just enough money to scrape by paying utilities, rent and food every month as a reward. I've been there before and I was putting in 50 hours a week in warehouse. If I ever missed a paycheck I was screwed and could've been out on the street with my kid and fiance and I don't know about you but that, to me is horseshit. So I want to see the need parts taken of for people, and I think cutting people a check is the best way to do that.
What about people who are mentally ill or with physical impairments? And when some of these people who despise have kids, which they will, do we let the kids starve too because they had the bad sense to be born to lazy mothers? This idea of letting people starve does not sound compatible with being a good Christian and yet we seem to be embracing religion more and more as a country in setting policy so what? religion is important when forcing women to complete unwanted pregnancies but not when it comes to feeding them? I don't want to descend into third world status so I don't want to live in a city where people are booted out of their homes living on the streets without access to healthcare. NYC was a little bit like that in the 80's and it was awful. A country as rich as ours should not behave that way. As far as stopping immigration, news flash, for the most part people coming to this country want to work to make their lives better. We should be letting them in, as long as they pass the very robust background check that we have had since even before Trump became president, since they will act as role models for the poor that you despise so much.
if you were really concerned about the national debt, you would never vote for the Republican Party since, from Bill Clinton on, it has been the democrats who have been concerned about keeping the debt manageable. Under Trump it has ballooned. And, fyi, all our social works programs, which many especially rich people scream about how they don't want their taxes paying for them, accounts for about 8% of the budget.
Just add to your point, the Obama administration added about $7-8 trillion to the debt in 8 years, and had a recession to start with. Trump added $8 trillion in four years, and started with a booming economy. Republicans are only deficit hawks when a Democrat is in charge. Otherwise, full steam ahead on wasteful spending.
Look. This is possibly the stupidest response possible. I say "neither side gives a damn about the national debt." And then said "I am not going to spend my time defending or encouraging the republican party". And you respond with some nonsense about the republican party and excuse away the debt the democrats have contributed to and what they are about to add to it. Just dumb. I am very clear when I say that NEITHER side care about it. As far as why I vote right is because their policies take less money out of my paycheck and they don't cram social issues down our throats. I have plenty of criticism for republicans, but that's what we're left with. One or the other.