And I am equally enjoying watching the Republicans complaining about the administration doing something that benefitted Putin. FYI, a lot of Dems in Congress are protesting this move.I am excited to see the left finally come out in support of the pipeline...the Russian one
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Okay Fred. Let me know what liberal policies you support. I am more than happy to be corrected. Just the facts though. No insults please
you dont think some people are wearing or continuing to wear their mask of choice because they feel it may offer some form of barrier and actually aren't bothered or put off by wearing one
I’m sorry to disappoint you, but there’s been nothing to gleefully report since Ol Sleepy Joe has been in office. Nothing. This administration, led by some unknowns, is running us off the rails.
I know you’re not a far leftist (Haha), so I’m sure you’ll come back and agree with me.
when I said you were gleeful, I was referring to your post pointing out that covid was on the rise. I know you were not happy about more people getting sick. But you definitely enjoyed what you believed to be bad press for Biden.
Yes, this part is true. And it’s every day, with good reason. He’s so lost. It’s quite sad what is being done to him. He needs to be in a nursing home.
Not at all what I said. Not even close. What I will say is that is not the reason for the drastic drop in cases, hospitalizations and deaths in the state of Texas. You don't feel just a little silly suggesting that?
per you.."So people are wearing masks even though the overlords don't force them too?".....i didn't say masks were the reason either....i said just because no mask mandate, some people still choose to wear for their own reasons...same as people choose not to wear....and you are right...just masks aren't the reason.....masks, good choices and decisions when out and about, and the growing number of vaccinations i would gather all play a role w/ vaccinations being at the top
You haven't yet addressed the point. Everyone screamed from the rooftops that there needed to be a federal mask mandate even though the majority (by a large margin) of people were wearing masks even in the handful of states that didn't have mandates. So many people claimed that orange man bad killed thousands of people by not enforcing a federal mask mandate. Then when the governor of Texas lifted the mandate people lost their ****. More people are going to die they said. There's going to be another spike in cases they said. Abbott is a reckless murderer they said. Now that none of those things happened and miraculously the opposite happened. Now we're claiming that despite there being no mandate, the majority of people are still wearing their masks anyways. It's stupid.
In the beginning i guess many thought a mask was good prevention when little info was around.......cant blame trump, people made their own choices, now he may have influenced those choices for some, but thats on them imo..........when exactly did he lift the mandate?...before the vaccines or after?....i am glad that things are going well for texas, thats great for everyone...who said the majority still wear a mask w/o a mandate????.....i don't think peoples views that choose to wear for their own reasons will stop just because the gov dropped a mandate....so imo texas is doing great, w/ vaccinated and unvaccinated people...mask wearers and non mask wearers....people make good choices and people making risky choices
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Most doctors I talked to doubted the effectiveness of the flimsy non n 95 masks from jump st including one who thinks orange man bad. None of them would step foot in the surgical wing with this ****** little mask I’ve been wearing. Most likely the # are down and will stay down bc we are getting damn near close to herd immunity when you add vax plus those who’ve developed antibodies. It’s been a gravy train for Democrats but if they can’t get off the train by 2022 they’ll be kicked off
agree those vaxed and survivors have helped to get closer to that herd immunity
All of this to me circles back to the question, “did we really need to do all the lockdowns and restrictions that were put in place?”
How much damage has been done to many people because of all this? How many may have cancer, or some other horrible illnesses that wasn’t caught during the last year, and now the person may be too far gone for medical help? Or our kids? How far back are many of them?
The mask, IMO, were nothing more than a means for control.
Fauci should be tried in South Carolina. Let him get a lethal injection and the firing squad.
How much damage has been done to many people because of all this? How many may have cancer, or some other horrible illnesses that wasn’t caught during the last year, and now the person may be too far gone for medical help? Or our kids? How far back are many of them?
The mask, IMO, were nothing more than a means for control.
Fauci should be tried in South Carolina. Let him get a lethal injection and the firing squad.
Mac, my thought w/ keeping life as usual, probably would have been way more loss of life....time was needed to figure stuff out and devise game plans to limit to the best of intentions the loss of lives.......to the cancer line...hospitals didn't close and seeing your provider didnt stop, now lots of hospitals were at the brink due to covid patients...to kids, assuming you are talking about schools, even though it isnt the most ideal, virtual learning has been very helpful....in my district we have face to face learning since august in a hybrid model ( 1 week in person and 1 week virtual).....covid hasnt been easy...
Actually cancer screenings and treatments were down, treatment and detection of other illnesses were down driven by a fear of being in a hospital full of contagious Covid patients...a distortion of reality. We also dont count the suicides, the murders or other causes of death due to the unnecessary fear mongering from the media and politicians about this virus. What is also never mentioned to its prominence in the death toll is the comorbity and age consequence. Being obese, diabetic or otherwise unhealthy was a major factor in the outcome for covid patients. Age was a major death factor due to the declining health of the patient who already faced severe health issues. Yes there were presumably healthy people that died as with all viruses but that was a minisule pecentage but hyped by the press and social media. We were driven to mass panic as were many countries unnecessarily and in some cases that is still being driven....schools is a good example. Precautions were a good idea but the failure to approach this rationally and practically has cost more than the lives of those who succumbed to the virus. Lets hope this never happens again, but if it does lets learn the lessons from how poorly this was handled. Every death is a tragedy...those who died of, with or because of the actions taken around covid.
The whole point was how ridiculous people's reactions have been about the government mandating masks. And how ridiculous people have been with how they view certain governor's responses based on whether it is a D next to their name or an R. Everything you said in this post is logical and makes sense. It wasn't necessarily a debate about whether or not masks work more than it is whether or not a government mandate makes any difference. You perfectly illustrated that it doesn't.
My stance from the beginning was if masks make you feel more comfortable, wear them. If people not wearing masks make you uncomfortable, stay away from them. The vast majority of people have been wearing masks. It hasn't been that difficult to avoid people who weren't. How many videos have you watched where people voluntarily approached people who weren't wearing masks just to shame them? They put themselves at what they considered, risk just to push an imaginary authority on fellow citizens? We don't need the federal government to be our doctors. They have the power to only take advice from life long bureaucrats who could (likely) have monetary interests behind their advice.
I feel that...now I personally haven't seen any videos that go either way, but have witnessed people going against clearly posted requirements and audio messages...
I laugh at the losers ignoring this shitshow of a presidency while still obsessing over the past administration. Just like the losers who obsessed over Obama when he was gone.
When conservatives suggested that Covid was started by the Chinese in the Wigan lab they were labeled as racist and conspiracy nuts.Now the leftists are in charge it is no longer crazy to consider it is a viable theory.Who would have thunk it
Now Biden wants the WHO to investigate what happened.That is the equivalent of having Meyer Lansky being the judge in the Al Capone tax evasion case
We should investigate how much Fauci was involved in "studying" the virus as well.
Couldn’t help but notice that Fauci’s tune changed YET AGAIN, and now says we should investigate the Wuhan lab Where this virus OBVIOUSLY leaked out of. How he still has a job is beyond me.
Fauci changing his tune surely the all-knowing God of the left cannot be inconsistent in his opinions.
What's amazing is that people blindly trust a man who laid down his career as a doctor/scientist for a corrupted position as a tax payer funded bureaucrat who advises the federal government on issues according to what benefits his "studies". He has been praised for two epidemics that he got nothing right on. AIDS and the rona. But I bet he got paid.
Waiting for the crazies on the board to come on and call you a tinfoil conspiracy nut
Maybe because he is better at it than you are willing to give him credit. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc...omplicated-relationship-larry-kramer-n1241684
As for changing his tune, it is not unusual for opinions to evolve as more data becomes available or when it becomes apparent that data that should be available is being held back or suppressed. Fauci is still not saying that he thinks the virus is manmade so to that degree he is not changing his tune. But given the lack of transparency at Wuhan and the fact that we still don't have a concrete answer on what happened, he has added is voice to those who think it is important to have a full-on investigation.
There are certain fundamental differences between the two scenarios. Obama was a two-term president who could not run again. And when he left, he did so relatively quietly, even as he watched his legacy being unraveled by a president who thought white supremacy was just grand and who benefitted from it by putting its message on hats. Trump can run again and he is unable and/or unwilling to sit quietly and let Biden run the country. He has continued to keep his grip on the Republican Party. That the House voted to strip Cheney of her position because she had the temerity to point out that 1) he had lost the election and 2) he had encouraged insurrection shows the degree of control. He and his toadies are still perpetuating the big lie that he actually won the election -- a lie that is a direct assault on our democracy. So, yes, we still need to pay attention to this poor excuse for a human being, because if we look away, we leave him unhindered to continue to damage our nation.
Sensationalized ********. You're obsessed. That's it. Why do you even bother quoting me, btw? You'll just selectively respond to something and completely mix it up into something that I didn't even say.
What did I get wrong exactly? You were commenting on the fact that people are obsessed with Trump, just like they were obsessed with Obama. I pointed out the differences between the two obsessions. If I missed or misunderstood what you posted, please tell me.
I'm just amazed at how much Old Joe loves the US.