the QB graveyard picks up another transfer

FlabLoser

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Zach Stoudt from Iowa Western CC commits to the MS Black Bears. So tweets VZ.

Seriously...are they every going to sign a QB out of high school?
 

FlabLoser

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Zach Stoudt from Iowa Western CC commits to the MS Black Bears. So tweets VZ.

Seriously...are they every going to sign a QB out of high school?
 

FlabLoser

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Zach Stoudt from Iowa Western CC commits to the MS Black Bears. So tweets VZ.

Seriously...are they every going to sign a QB out of high school?
 

JacksonDevilDog

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With the votes being cast for Mackey, Stanley, brunetti, Miller and this guy, it will hurt each of their chances from making it to new York. And there will be too many options as far as bumper stickers go.
 

Todd4State

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On the lake, they were saying something about Chris Garrett possibly looking to transfer there too.

I have to wonder what this means for Barry Brunetti.

And Stoudt used to play for Louisville. His Dad was Terry Bradshaw's back-up in Pittsburgh.
 

ckDOG

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What's up with this pro-style guy? Where does Stanley fit in? And the other JUCO guy?

Crazy.
 

JxnReb.sixpack

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Stoudt and Stanley are pocket passer (the will duel it out), Mackey is a read-option guy. Probably 15 snaps for him per game depending on the opponent. O-line will be solid next year.
 

FreeDawg

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dont you think other schools will use this as a recruiting tool against your rebs. why sign with ole miss, the last high shcool qb they signed who started was....................
 

Tulsa Dawg

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Recruits love having a soundtrack.


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Rockydawg

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JxnReb said:
Stoudt and Stanley are pocket passer (the will duel it out), Mackey is a read-option guy. Probably 15 snaps for him per game depending on the opponent. O-line will be solid next year.
Hoooooooooomerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........
 

Todd4State

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Ole Miss having a two QB system like that next year where a guy takes 15 snaps a game.

It sounds to me like Mackey is going to end up switching positions to WR or RB whether he knows it or not. He really should have seen the writing on the wall when they brought in Masoli last year.

This also tells me that Brunetti might not be the "done deal" that it was made out to be. Either that or Brunetti is an idiot- he did go to West Virginia after all.

Stanley really should transfer on a matter of principle if nothing else.
 

seattle slim

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Honestly, when was the last time Ole Miss had a decent quarterback not named Manning. Houston better start praying that Archie has another boy stashed away some where.
 

Interpol

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...is going to make it really difficult to beat out even Memphis or UAB for a kid from now on.

Not one hot shot 18 year-old quarterback in high school gives two ***** about where Ole Miss got its last quarterback or what the #%*$ you think they think.
 

RougeDawg

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Interpol said:
Not one hot shot 18 year-old quarterback in high school gives two ***** about where Ole Miss got its last quarterback or what the #%*$ you think they think.


<p class="MsoNormal">What has happened to the previous 2 Heisman preseason
hopefuls under Nutt, then they deserve to go waste their time there holding a
clipboard. Any coherent thinking human being should be able to process this information. I don't know if any other coach in college football history has
taken a Heisman preseason candidate and run them into the ground any harder
than Nutt has. And he's done it in each of the past two seasons. Come to think
of it, I find it hard to think of an instance of a coach doing it even once.
Heisman hopefuls usually have a decent season and get drafted, no matter their
record or Coach.

And I will have to go ahead and disagree with you on that one. Any intelligent
high school QB will look at the past two QB's and what happened and will give
more than two ***** about the Mississippi QB situation. Any QB that actually
enrolls at Mississippi,
isn't even intelligent enough for the rest of the SEC schools to worry about. So
enjoy the coming years of witnessing Nutt destroy QB after QB.</p>
 

anon1751035439

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You name the price.

Bolden may be calling the plays in the huddle, but Mackey will be behind the center. Again, give me a dollar figure.
 

Todd4State

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tcreb said:
You name the price.



Bolden may be calling the plays in the huddle, but Mackey will be behind the center. Again, give me a dollar figure.


Otherwise, tell me why Nutt is bringing in another JUCO QB? Explain to me why he brought in Masoli if he thought that Mackey could handle the job?

You don't bring JUCO's in to sit on the bench. I figure if you're going to bring in another QB, that's will also be a junior like Mackey, only one of them is going to work out. And it's probably not going to be the one that was redshirted last year.

Either way, someone is going to be wasted unless someone makes a position change.
 

Todd4State

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Interpol said:
...is going to make it really difficult to beat out even Memphis or UAB for a kid from now on.

Not one hot shot 18 year-old quarterback in high school gives two ***** about where Ole Miss got its last quarterback or what the #%*$ you think they think.


that other teams aren't going to bring it up during recruiting, you're sorely mistaken.
 

xxxWalkTheDawg

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JxnReb said:
Stoudt and Stanley are pocket passer (the will duel it out), Mackey is a read-option guy. Probably 15 snaps for him per game depending on the opponent. O-line will be solid next year.?
<div>We better not make fun guys... they are going to have 2 Sneads and another Masoli Clone next year. ? They are STACKED at qb. ? And that O line that left Masoli scrambling in the Egg Bowl.... they will improve 3 fold next year. ?Who needs defense when the offense will be on the field for 45 mins a game? ?</div><div>
</div><div>But how do you do that you say? ?Based on my inside sources, ?here is one of Mackey's 15 plays. ?</div><div>
</div><div><span> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cUCyTrT_Lkw?f=videos&app=youtube_gdata" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355" allowScriptAccess="never" ></embed> </span>
</div><div><span>
</span></div><div>Look... don't hate on the messenger. I just tell it like it is.</div>
 

Interpol

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We're talking about 17 and 18 year old 17'ers who haven't grown out of their ADHD years - who knows what will catch their ear?

But I'm saying 9/10 hot shot high school kids don't really give a ##++ who signs where because they think they're the next big thing. 5 star players wouldn't sign up to sit on the bench behind other 5 star players at big programs like Alabama and USC if they weren't convinced they were the ****. They often find out how wrong they were, and are coerced into transferring to Ole Miss.
 

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FreeDawg said:
dont you think other schools will use this as a recruiting tool against your rebs. why sign with ole miss, the last high shcool qb they signed who started was....................

The top two QBs in the SEC this year were Cam Newton and Ryan Mallett, both signed AND played at other BCS programs before coming to Auburn and Arkansas respectively. Be sure to let their fans know that they should feel shame from not signing those guys out of high school. I'm sure their fans are weeping in their combined 23-2 records this fall.

I'd have taken transfers from either QB, and your team would've been much better with Newton than with that QB you signed out of high school. Jevan Snead, for all his issues, was still a better producing QB than anything MSU has put on the field at the position, since well...you tell me.

I'd rather start a quality QB that we didn't sign out of high school than start a weaker one that we did get out of high school.
 

rem101

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tcreb said:
You name the price.

Bolden may be calling the plays in the huddle, but Mackey will be behind the center. Again, give me a dollar figure.
 

BigMotherTucker

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Mackey is not picking up the playbook well at all. Im told he has about 5 plays that he can actually run. I have no idea if he will make the move to WR or not but ill tell you that if he is ever your starter at QB then you guys are in real trouble.
 
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Todd4State said:
On the lake, they were saying something about Chris Garrett possibly looking to transfer there too.

I have to wonder what this means for Barry Brunetti.

And Stoudt used to play for Louisville. His Dad was Terry Bradshaw's back-up in Pittsburgh.
I wondered the exact same thing this morning. With this kidbeing the new bear cub,Brunettitransferring from WVU to somewhere close to home and Memphis likely being out of the equation b/c well they're memphis(and they started a freshman last year); doesState show any interest in him again?
 

RougeDawg

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Interpol said:
<span class="post-title">I'm sure a lot of coaches bring up your storied QB past in recruiting too.</span>
Please elaborate on the last timeMSUtook a preseason heisman hopeful QB and they ended up not beingdrafted at all. It has happened to Nutt the past two seasons, but you say no recruit will be able to see and comprehend what is happening.

Hell, we took a 2 star recruit and won8 games in the toughest conference and division in the country, and playing ina NYD bowl. Just imagine if we had a 3 or 4 star QB likeNutt keeps getting. I know that I am going out on a limb here, but I will have to say that coaching has played a large roll in both universities QB progress, or lack thereof in one case.
 

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RougeDawg said:
Interpol said:
<span class="post-title">I'm sure a lot of coaches bring up your storied QB past in recruiting too.</span>
Please elaborate on the last timeMSUtook a preseason heisman hopeful QB and they ended up not beingdrafted at all. It has happened to Nutt the past two seasons, but you say no recruit will be able to see and comprehend what is happening.

Hell, we took a 2 star recruit and won8 games in the toughest conference and division in the country, and playing ina NYD bowl. Just imagine if we had a 3 or 4 star QB likeNutt keeps getting. I know that I am going out on a limb here, but I will have to say that coaching has played a large roll in both universities QB progress, or lack thereof in one case.

Masoli could've stayed at Oregon, won the Heisman and a national title, and he wouldn't end up drafted to the NFL as a QB.

He doesn't have the NFL skill set for a QB, period. CFL, maybe, but if he wants to play in the NFL, it's going to be at a different position. It was always going to be that way, just like it is for Relf.
 

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TCReb alluded to it but I've heard that Mackey has a speech impediment so someone else must call the plays in the huddle. I think that's how they did it when he was at EMCC.

Rebs, is this true?

As Original48 stated, who audibles if the play needs to be changed?
 

RougeDawg

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He could have stayed at Oregon and been up for Heisman, UNDER A DIFFERENT COACH. Two consecutive years that Nutt has driven a Heisman hopeful into the dirt and had nobody talking about them at the end of the season. But you say that no clear minded intelligent highschool QB, JUCO QB, or 80 year old grandmother can see what has happened repeatedly to QBs under Nutt. And I didn't say he would have been drafted as a QB, but drafted none the less to do something. Ala Spurlock type, even though Michael was not drafted. Darron Thomas will be taken by someone in the draft, when eligible. Masoli will be working at the Mississippi Petrified Forest in Flora after the season, that is if there really is a parks and recreation program. Coaching makes a ton of difference, and it has shown, especially this season at multiple positions.

QB prospects who are worth a 17 will take notice to the development under Nutt and steer clear is all I am saying.

Jeremiah's First Place of Employment
 

Big Sheep81

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have 1 that will work. He can just grey-shirt one or two, change positions for a couple or tell them to transfer. What's he got to lose?

Of course, he may wind up like Southern and score 50 but allow 56....

nodefenseku
 

JohnDawg

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1. No one would have beaten Cameron Newton out of the Heisman this year. Wouldn't have mattered if Masoli stayed at Oregon or not. Newton was just too good this year.

2. Snead had all the intangibles for an NFL QB, according to Kiper and McShay. However, he lackedtesticular fortitude, which is needed to be an NFL QB.</p>
 

Todd4State

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Interpol said:
We're talking about 17 and 18 year old 17'ers who haven't grown out of their ADHD years - who knows what will catch their ear?

But I'm saying 9/10 hot shot high school kids don't really give a ##++ who signs where because they think they're the next big thing. 5 star players wouldn't sign up to sit on the bench behind other 5 star players at big programs like Alabama and USC if they weren't convinced they were the ****. They often find out how wrong they were, and are coerced into transferring to Ole Miss.


with QB's, which is quite good. What happened at MSU with QB's when Jackie and Croom were here is irrelevant because they're not here anymore. If I'm a QB and MSU has a coach that has made a guy a #1 draft pick of the entire draft at QB and has coached for at least part of their careers now two Heisman winners one of whom was a first round pick and now one who will likely be a first round pick, I'm going to listen.
 

BigMotherTucker

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/sorry for the late response

Also - As of egg bowl week, Stanley has no intentions of transferring (which blows my mind)
 

Interpol

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Of course Mullen should be able to lock up top tier QB's with his pedigree n' **** and he gives MSU exactly what it needs (which is, perhaps, exactly what Ole Miss needs). Good for you. That still won't scare away QB recruits from Nutt and Ole Miss until rapture like one of your shittier posters is contesting.

However, to play devil's advocate, are you personally satisfied with Mullen's QB recruiting thus far?
 

Todd4State

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Interpol said:
Of course Mullen should be able to lock up top tier QB's with his pedigree n' **** and he gives MSU exactly what it needs (which is, perhaps, exactly what Ole Miss needs). Good for you. That still won't scare away QB recruits from Nutt and Ole Miss until rapture like one of your shittier posters is contesting.

However, to play devil's advocate, are you personally satisfied with Mullen's QB recruiting thus far?


We have Tyler Russell, who seems to progressing well and has played some for us and made some plays. He's not ready yet, but I also anticipate that he will be when he takes over when he is a junior. Was a Parade AA QB out of high school and recruited by Alabama. QB Meridian to a 5A State Championship over South Panola, a team that was thought to be invincible. His QB rating this year was a respectable 144.

Then we have Dylan Favre who while he is short, also seems to be progressing well. He was a plan B for sure, but taking a guy with 65 TD passes that was a Parade AA QB with a famous last name is not a bad plan B. Also had offers from USM and Tulane, but I am 100% sure that was because of his size, or lack thereof.

Now we have Dak Prescott, a guy that LSU and TCU wanted that can throw and run. We'll see what he can do once he gets here in Jan.

Even better, we have their eligibility staggered so that they know that odds are they will get at least one year to start rather than having three juniors on the team at the same time. I'm also happy that all three will be with us for five full seasons, barring a transfer by one of them rather than having two years to learn the system.

Beyond that, Relf wasn't recruited by Dan, but I am pleased with the strides that he has made, especially since Dan got here. If Dan can do what he has done with Relf, I am extremely encouraged with what he can potentially do with some of our other recruits that came from a better situation and with an extra two years to work with them.