The very clear line....
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I've watched threads like these closely and those statistics don't get brought up until other statistics are used to try and show how "whitey" is the problem. I'm all for treating people equal, but the second you blame me for your problem because of the color of my skin...it's on. (not you specifically)
There are bad cops in every state and probably ever town, does that make all cops bad? NO! People get so caught up in the sensationalized media **** storm of these event that they can't see the forest for the trees anymore.
I agree. If there is one thing we can do now is put more stringent regulations on becoming a cop. Do cops go through psychological exams? Perhaps offer more salary or benefits? I don't know. Just throwing things against the wall here.
Counterpoint: they are all guilty and it is an election year. Trayvon led to an ever larger turnout for BO in 2012 than 2008.
WOW...never met a veteran that wasn't proud of their service and willing to share their experience. You are a first.
Inappropriate in a discussion about two people killed by cops in 2 days. One of them blatantly murdered while being held down.
No idea, but this is the way a thread about this topic should be approached. Possible solutions and not finger pointing. [thumb2]
You must have him on ignore, it was the same inconvenient statistic as yesterday.
The solution is simple. Demilitarize the police department and get back to protecting and serving.
But Bill how do you know he was waiving a gun at a patron? The video started after that incident. We should wait for more facts.
Then you should know that the opinions I care about are on my wall, not the internet. And I don't yap about it or wear it on my sleeve, either.
Most people don't understand that the cost of body cams is not really the issue. It is the massive cost of storing all the data and all the regulations around it that makes it difficult to fund on an ongoing basis. Our cities and counties are broke and have to balance their budgets.
Like I said, as long as those folks stay out of this thread, discussion can be had.
No, I saw the statistic he posted. I was under the impression that you were stating those people only come out when "liberal" statistics are posted.
We ask good Muslims to turn in bad ones but don't ask good cops to turn in bad ones. They just cover up for them. No questions asked.
Was that not what the police were responding to in the first place?
And I clearly the stated the cop may end up being in the wrong in that instance.
First of all Sean, posted the link to Baton Rouge claiming it was blatant murder, you agreed with that point of view. I don't see how in the world any reasonable person can come to that conclusion with the video we saw, unless they WANT it to be murder.
What I want is justice to be served without the weight of public opinion tainting it.
speak for yourself and false as usual. It is an issue for sure. There is a code unfortunately. Snitches get stitches, you know.
AustinTxCat will be very jealous if you out-report him this month. He sends a virtual apple to the mods every morning, just so you know.
We are not going to demilitarize the police, putting their lives on the line because someone doesn't like the way it looks. Sorry. These are dangerous people they deal with. They're going home at the end of the day.
This is unfortunate, but again, we've got an example of what NOT to do while interacting with police. When you are trained in open carry (I am) you learn how to handle a traffic stop correctly.
1. Roll down all windows. Front and back
2. Place hands on wheel or dash
3. IMMEDIATELY notify the cop that you are armed and legal / where the gun is.
4. Ask him what to do next.
You do not reach for **** while telling him you've got a gun. any gun owner will tell you he did everything wrong. Not to mention he's illegal to carry that weapon anyway, if drugs were in fact in the car.
This is unfortunate, and I'm sure the race pimps are ready, but this is an accident that could've happened to anyway of any race.
Of course, 3 black men were killed in Chicago yesterday. Wouldn't want to divert attention away from the sharpton pimps and focus on what's really killing black men in genocidal numbers. If you don't die by a cop, we don't give a ****.
Carry on.
This is unfortunate, but again, we've got an example of what NOT to do while interacting with police. When you are trained in open carry (I am) you learn how to handle a traffic stop correctly.
1. Roll down all windows. Front and back
2. Place hands on wheel or dash
3. IMMEDIATELY notify the cop that you are armed and legal / where the gun is.
4. Ask him what to do next.
You do not reach for **** while telling him you've got a gun. any gun owner will tell you he did everything wrong. Not to mention he's illegal to carry that weapon anyway, if drugs were in fact in the car.
This is unfortunate, and I'm sure the race pimps are ready, but this is an accident that could've happened to anyway of any race.
Of course, 3 black men were killed in Chicago yesterday. Wouldn't want to divert attention away from the sharpton pimps and focus on what's really killing black men in genocidal numbers. If you don't die by a cop, we don't give a ****.
Carry on.
You throw your opinions all over the internet...this is the internet isn't it?
As for your service...sorry for asking.
Well that's the way it usually turns into a **** storm. One view doesn't like the other, and can't manage to find ANY common ground or offer solutions. Just a giant hamster wheel that never stops spinning.
Bill watch the second video in the below article. The gun was not an active threat and was removed from his pocket after he was killed.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...a-gun-when-baton-rogue-police-killed-him.html
You forgot the step where you show your papers and never look them directly into the eyes. Maybe save them a couple steps and tattoo your social security number on your wrist.
Good Lord how some people are so willing to bow down and live like a coward.
Good Lord how some people are so willing to bow down and live like a coward.
Shutup Z. A cop put his hand on your shoulder and all police are blood thirsty head busters.
These particular police were scared pussies. Exact opposite of this agenda your pushing.
These particular police were scared pussies. Exact opposite of this agenda your pushing.
The next time you're wrestling on the ground with an armed criminal (maybe for your life) I'll listen to your point.
So you like the Australian/British model of law enforcement?
Any negatives in that scenario?
If the cops pull you over:
1: Lay in a fetal position under your car.
2: While making a whimpering noise, extend your papers, social security card, and birth certificate out from under your car with your little toe and the toe immediately next to it.
3: If you extend any other toe or do not make the appropriate whining noise, the police are allowed to respond with lethal force by igniting you with a flame thrower.
4: When you are drug out from under your car for further questioning you will be asked to sign a letter of confession. Do it.
See, if you follow these simple rules to ensure the safety of our police then you will be fine. Just do as they say, when they say, for how long they say, whenever they say, and for how much they say with complete obedience and control.
Thank you, citizen.
1: Lay in a fetal position under your car.
2: While making a whimpering noise, extend your papers, social security card, and birth certificate out from under your car with your little toe and the toe immediately next to it.
3: If you extend any other toe or do not make the appropriate whining noise, the police are allowed to respond with lethal force by igniting you with a flame thrower.
4: When you are drug out from under your car for further questioning you will be asked to sign a letter of confession. Do it.
See, if you follow these simple rules to ensure the safety of our police then you will be fine. Just do as they say, when they say, for how long they say, whenever they say, and for how much they say with complete obedience and control.
Thank you, citizen.
I'd say a gun in the pocket is an active threat. I have seen 2 disturbing videos of that and both videos go to the ground when the first shot goes off and come back up after. I cannot say that those videos confirm the cops story of him reaching for his gun...and I cannot say he didn't reach for his gun.
I still think police need to rethink strategy and procedures in a 2v1 situation...they should've been able to control that situation without the end result that happened. There was a situation in Missouri where a mentally unstable man had a knife. Two cops were present and at a decent distance from him - he took a couple steps and was shot dead. I'd think one cop could have taser/non lethal force drawn and use and the other cop have his gun for a last resort...but nope.
The newest case doesn't show me enough to make a good comment. The after video is the GF pov. Each one of these makes things worse for everyone though, keep going backwards.
you don't think 60 people shot during a holiday weekend effects police being skittish and perhaps even detached?
I have to call BS here. I saw two men pin a guy down to the ground and while he was pinned down THEN draw their weapons guns and shoot the man. After the man had been shot they reach into his pocket and pull something that looked like a gun out of his pants and at no time did I see the man with a gun in his hand. My eyes say the man was murdered. Two videos two angles same story.