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No, you simply said 84% of whites are killed by whites, and 93% of blacks are killed by blacks and that given the vast population difference between the 2 races you concluded that whites kill far more people.
That is simply not correct, and has been pointed out to you several times already.

Of all murders blacks commit 52.5%, and whites 45.3 % thats of EVERY murder, not just what race or gender was killed. So of every 10 murders in the US over 5 of them are committed by blacks, who as you just posted are a much smaller portion of the population.

You guys want to talk about black-on-black crime not total. That's what I provided.
 

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The county I work in. This po dunk white trash county has a GD mine sweepr worth $700K that they got from the military. A Mine sweeper. Who the hell needs a mine sweeper,. Also, my county has at least 7 bazookas. No ****. I posted a link on here that allowed people to see what military equipment every city in Florida got. It was ridiculous. Mine sweepers and bazookas. GTFOH with that bull **** rationalization.
 

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Yep, police state, militarization of police, mass prisons...all big government Democrat ideals. All funded by the love of taking my money through taxes while democrats similarly tell democrats they need to do what they say...by throwing more government on everything will fix everything. I wonder why the prisons are full..oh because they can be we just need to milk to tax payer more so it doesn't matter..go ahead and profile and do whatever, it can be funded. Wonder why the police don't get in a lot if trouble and keep their jobs....oh yeah, Unions.

Cut the taxes, funding, and make people accountable and put in positions where job loss is possible....things change. Things that are important are focused on and through competition only the best are employed.
ROFL is that why Republicans have for decades been known as being 'tough on crime'? GTFO with that crap.
 

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ROFL is that why Republicans have for decades been known as being 'tough on crime'? GTFO with that crap.


That's funny, because it was Obama who re-signed a stronger patriot Act, the FREEDOM Act (which guess what? takes away your freedom yuk yuk), and the NDAA act along while increasing the NSA's power while also allowing the local dipshit local officers to get their grimy little trigger fingers on a Stingray technology which they use quite frequently.

All under Obama. Suck it.
 

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Facts: Up until this point in 2016, 114 black folks have been killed by police. I don't have any more breakdown of the situations but if you think that will boil down to 10-20 incidents in which cops should be prosecuted you are crazy.

The average annual number of black men killed by police is 112. That includes justified killings as well as unjustified homicides. In majority of those cases, the police are cleared. So 10-20 may be a little low but I seriously doubt that it is more than 25%.

Blacks commit 52% of murders in this country despite being only 11%-12% of the population. As you noted, 93% of those murders are committed against other black people. So Blacks are committing a hugely disproportionate amount of murders and they are against their own race. So how is that not an epidemic of black on black murders?
 
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Z is an anarchist. Everything he says regarding police should be discredited immediately. He's entertaining though.

Police are given authority by federal law to gain control of the situation by any means necessary.

The one with the guy in the car is awful to see, and I would suggest the cop find other employment, but the man aided his own death by not following proper rules of carrying a handgun.
Seriously you will make any excuse to not acknowledge a murder by a police officer. It is literally become 'whites only' when it comes to guns. Only white people can properly use them. Actually cops don't have authority to do whatever the F they want. And what proper rules did he not follow?

So cops are affected by what they see going on but blacks should not be affected by seeing their kin being killed for the thinnest of excuses. Meanwhile example after example of white people with guns being treated with respect instead of being shot first. We've got all these white mass killers who were taken alive. Funny how that works.
 

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The county I work in. This po dunk white trash county has a GD mine sweepr worth $700K that they got from the military. A Mine sweeper. Who the hell needs a mine sweeper,. Also, my county has at least 7 bazookas. No ****. I posted a link on here that allowed people to see what military equipment every city in Florida got. It was ridiculous. Mine sweepers and bazookas. GTFOH with that bull **** rationalization.


Willy, those are all used for the killer gators, and giant snake infestation that you guys have.
 
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Seriously you will make any excuse to not acknowledge a murder by a police officer. It is literally become 'whites only' when it comes to guns. Only white people can properly use them. Actually cops don't have authority to do whatever the F they want. And what proper rules did he not follow?

So cops are affected by what they see going on but blacks should not be affected by seeing their kin being killed for the thinnest of excuses. Meanwhile example after example of white people with guns being treated with respect instead of being shot first. We've got all these white mass killers who were taken alive. Funny how that works.

Was ordered not to move after making it known he had a firearm in the vehicle. Not excusing the actions of the cop, just answering your question.
 

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You guys want to talk about black-on-black crime not total. That's what I provided.

Who is "you guys" ? I haven't said anything about black on black crime.

You specifically wrote that according to the stats you provided, and given the population percentages that white murder more people than blacks, they don't. And by those same statistics you provided it does show there is a black on black crime epidemic. Over 4 out of 10 murders in the US is Blacks killing blacks, if only 13% of the population is black I'd say that qualifies as an epidemic.
 

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The county I work in. This po dunk white trash county has a GD mine sweepr worth $700K that they got from the military. A Mine sweeper. Who the hell needs a mine sweeper,. Also, my county has at least 7 bazookas. No ****. I posted a link on here that allowed people to see what military equipment every city in Florida got. It was ridiculous. Mine sweepers and bazookas. GTFOH with that bull **** rationalization.

Willy, you do live in Florida after all.
 
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ROFL is that why Republicans have for decades been known as being 'tough on crime'? GTFO with that crap.

Didn't the very Husband of the woman you're going to vote for make it a point to hire 200000 more cops? And didn't Hillary call young black men vicious?
 

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Seriously you will make any excuse to not acknowledge a murder by a police officer. It is literally become 'whites only' when it comes to guns. Only white people can properly use them. Actually cops don't have authority to do whatever the F they want. And what proper rules did he not follow?

So cops are affected by what they see going on but blacks should not be affected by seeing their kin being killed for the thinnest of excuses. Meanwhile example after example of white people with guns being treated with respect instead of being shot first. We've got all these white mass killers who were taken alive. Funny how that works.

when you say murder, do you mean premeditated action? The guy shot in Louisiana was totally justifiable as far as the law is concerned. There will be no charges when the investigation is complete. Those that won't agree, start making your case for the Obama justice department being racially bias. I'd love to hear it. Anyone looking at it objectively can see the police acted 100% within protocol.

What do you mean "whites only when it comes to guns". What, you want to suddenly start supporting the right to own firearms now? You a pistol champ since a black guy got shot carrying one legally? Get off the soap box mr. "Good white guy". Gun owners would love nothing more than every race in America be legally armed to the teeth and do it by the law. Let's pray for that utopia together, shall we?

I didn't say cops are allowed to do whatever they want. I said you MUST comply with an officers orders, and that's The law. The public gives the police that authority to keep order and your ilk from literally destroying civilization. What's your phrase? Burn it to the ground? Next you'll be asking why high end banks aren't in the hood. go ahead, ask it now.

What rules didn't he follow? I've already said it. First he's riding with weed (according to his girlfriend) while being in possession of a firearm, making his gun illegal. So there's that. Next, since he's ones of those "responsible permit carry" "white types", he should know that carrying that firearm has its own set of standards (not that you have a f'ing clue about gun etiquette anyway). When a person is carrying and is pulled over, you're to roll the windows down, put your hands on the wheel or dash (keep up), immediately tell the officer you're carrying legally, and let him tell you what to do next. You don't reach for your GD ID while telling a police officer you've got a gun. This is to protect people from incident, like this. Unless you think that Asian woke up and decided he was going kill a black dude, obviously that leaves open the option for a human f up. This cop shouldn't be a cop. At the same time, the girls story is already Changing and id be willing to bet he gave him more chances than she's claiming.


Your last comment is just typical of the delusional paranoia I hear from you constantly. Get this through your head.

The media is throwing every single borderline incident of white cop / black civilian they can find. When the racial pattern doesn't fit, it's an "institutional policing" problem. There is no evidence to support blacks are in anyway oppressed by the law when you factor in populations and crime data. Go ahead, like I've told you. Do the research objectively.
 
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Of all murders blacks commit 52.5%, and whites 45.3 % thats of EVERY murder

Wait. 52.5 + 45.3 = 97.8%. That leaves 2.2% for all the Hispanics, Asians, Native Indians, and anyone else I'm missing that isn't black or white. Maybe we need more immigration after all.
 

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The county I work in. This po dunk white trash county has a GD mine sweepr worth $700K that they got from the military. A Mine sweeper. Who the hell needs a mine sweeper,. Also, my county has at least 7 bazookas. No ****. I posted a link on here that allowed people to see what military equipment every city in Florida got. It was ridiculous. Mine sweepers and bazookas. GTFOH with that bull **** rationalization.

That made me go

 

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Didn't the very Husband of the woman you're going to vote for make it a point to hire 200000 more cops? And didn't Hillary call young black men vicious?
not to nitpick, but Bubba put 100K more cops on the street in the early 1990's. as part of a huge crime bill that was advocated by african americans because they were the primary victims of violent crime, and passed in congress with the vote of virtually every black congress person.

and Hillary called young black men "superpredators". she will be receiving with little problem 90+% of the black vote.

trying to spin police who are hired & supervised in cities that are presently & have been for decades run by Democrat politicians as being a Republican caused problem is quite a joke. maybe some of you liberal morons shocked by these stories start to understand why conservatives are fearful of big government, and wish it to be smaller and less powerful?
Mayor of Baton Rouge is of the same party as Ferguson Mizzou or Baltimore Maryland. shocking!

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There is a price that is paid by all the laws that democrats pass, all the taxes that they require to fund their massive payrolls of dependent government employees - in the blood of citizens. and now liberals want to pretend they are blameless for the massive governments with huge payrolls and byzantine codes of laws which cause the police state they demanded be constructed in this society.
 
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It's more common among white people, it seems, to dehumanize criminals and just assume they had what's coming to them. Seems to be a much broader acceptance among white people that if a cop harms you, it was your fault and you deserved it. I don't think the problem is black people taking up for criminals. I think the problem is white people thinking "criminals" have lost their humanity and their right to due process, and accepting police as judge, jury, and executioner. So when white people are killed by police (275 this year in the US), other white shrug and figure he had it coming.

Again, what most of us are saying is the opposite. The police are NOT the judge, jury, and executioner. They just enforce written law. That's it. Comply and 99.999% of the time no one is going to get hurt. We need to stop with the soft bigotry that because they're black they can't understand it.
 

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not to nitpick, but Bubba put 100K more cops on the street in the early 1990's. as part of a huge crime bill that was advocated by african americans because they were the primary victims of violent crime, and passed in congress with the vote of virtually every black congress person.

and Hillary called young black men "superpredators". she will be receiving with little problem 90+% of the black vote.

trying to spin police who are hired & supervised in cities that are presently & have been for decades run by Democrat politicians as being a Republican caused problem is quite a joke. maybe some of you liberal morons shocked by these stories start to understand why conservatives are fearful of big government, and wish it to be smaller and less powerful?
Mayor of Baton Rouge is of the same party as Ferguson Mizzou or Baltimore Maryland. shocking!

Kip Holden
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Melvin Lee Holden, known as Kip Holden, has been since 2005 the Democratic Mayor-President of East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana, USA. Wikipedia

Born: August 12, 1952 (age 63), New Orleans, LA
Office: Mayor of Baton Rouge since 2005
Spouse: Lois Holden
Party: Democratic Party

There is a price that is paid by all the laws that democrats pass, all the taxes that they require to fund their massive payrolls of dependent government employees - in the blood of citizens. and now liberals want to pretend they are blameless for the massive governments with huge payrolls and byzantine codes of laws which cause the police state they demanded be constructed in this society.

He may have only hired 100000, but he called for 200000 to be hired.
 
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Again, what most of us are saying is the opposite. The police are NOT the judge, jury, and executioner. They just enforce written law. That's it. Comply and 99.999% of the time no one is going to get hurt. We need to stop with the soft bigotry that because they're black they can't understand it.

I'm just as concerned with the 275 white people killed by police this year. No bigotry involved. "Well he wouldn't have been shot if he'd complied" shouldn't be a blanket defense for cops to kill people. If cops are capable of resolving situations without escalating violence and without killing people - and the great number of cops who don't kill people and the numerous other countries where violent armed people are apprehended without killing them tells us they are capable - then we should expect them to do so.
 

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Hispanics can be of any race. "Hispanic" isn't a race per government statistics but an ethnic background. A black guy from the Dominican Republic is both black and hispanic.


Recently I read where the Caucasian population went up due to Hispanics putting themselves white instead of Hispanic.
 

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Probably so she has evidence in case she is murdered for unbuckling her seat belt or some other threatening movement by a black person. Yet, they can take in mass murdering white folks without killing them. It can be done.

These cops are just trigger happy because they know ultimately they have little accountability. I'll be waiting on pins and needles for the NRA to discuss how outraged they are that people are getting killed for expressing their 2nd amendment rights. White people can carry their guns openly in the middle of the street but a black man can't even get out a license without being shot in front of their family.

Tell us again how blacks are not targeted by police and that it's just a fantasy. Makes you wonder how many were killed before cellphone cameras.

Gonna be a record year for both people killed by police and people incarcerated. No, no police state here. It's time to burn this mother to the ground.

Yep. It's gotten out of hand. Seems like we see this on the news just about every day.

BLACK POWER! Let's burn our neighborhood and neighborhood businesses down (and ***** afterwards because we have to drive miles to find a store) That'll show whitey. That's like drinking poison and hoping your adversary dies from it.
 
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Question.
If the right to own a gun to protect against the tyranny of the government is a right that needs to be staunchly defended, shouldn't it also behoove such supporters to question the methods and tactics of the police when confronting civilians?

Many on here argue vehemently for the right to own guns, yet twist themselves into semantic pretzels trying to either change the subject or make excuses for poor police tactics.

We must question police methods and hold them accountable. We must. Who do you think the government is going to call on if they want to get tyrannical?
 

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That made me go

Most people (your average American) have no idea of the amount of military weapons that have been given to local police departments. Most American's also don't realize the explosion of SWAT teams across the country to where even local yokel departments are breaking out the flamethrowers and hopping in the armored personnel carrier and heading out to serve a warrant for late parking tickets.
 
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IIke everyone should do, I will wait for the facts...

..but...if the account of the passenger is true, this is very very bad. Even this white devil can admit that.

Seemed to be a pretty respectable person and according to statements tended to do things correctly.

Having said that, there are bad apple out there and does not mean all or any other of the police shootings have been unjustified.

If this one was, I hope the officer is prosecuted like any murderer. But, we should still wait for all facts before deciding either way.
 
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Question.
If the right to own a gun to protect against the tyranny of the government is a right that needs to be staunchly defended, shouldn't it also behoove such supporters to question the methods and tactics of the police when confronting civilians?

Many on here argue vehemently for the right to own guns, yet twist themselves into semantic pretzels trying to either change the subject or make excuses for poor police tactics.

We must question police methods and hold them accountable. We must. Who do you think the government is going to call on if they want to get tyrannical?

I absolutely agree, however, the time to question is after the initial encounter. That cop has no idea who you are, or what your intentions are. I would rather not put my life into someone else's hands simply because "I know my rights!". If you know them, then you also know that a judge has the final say, and he/she will sort out the mess.
 

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Where is the NRA in defending this man exercising his right to carry a concealed weapon with the proper permit being killed by police?

Oh, he's black. I get it.
 

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I'm just as concerned with the 275 white people killed by police this year. No bigotry involved. "Well he wouldn't have been shot if he'd complied" shouldn't be a blanket defense for cops to kill people. If cops are capable of resolving situations without escalating violence and without killing people - and the great number of cops who don't kill people and the numerous other countries where violent armed people are apprehended without killing them tells us they are capable - then we should expect them to do so.

America has unbelievably excellent cops. Just like any other profession there are going to be a few bad ones. I don't know why intelligent people have trouble digesting simple statistical data when it comes to race.

There is no blanket statement for cops to "kill people". When law enforcement says comply with an officers orders, it's to protect the officer and the civilian. Police have a right to live too, without putting their lives on the line more than they already do. Civilians have a right to due process, AFTER complying with an officers orders. These incidences are rare, no matter how the media tries to convince people to ignore the data and react emotionally. It's politically beneficial, I'll give'm that, but it's not touching any part of the problem.
 
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Where is the NRA in defending this man exercising his right to carry a concealed weapon with the proper permit being killed by police?

Oh, he's black. I get it.

That's why one of the NRA's best and most known spokesman is a black guy.

But I feel ya. Just carry on.
 
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Question.
If the right to own a gun to protect against the tyranny of the government is a right that needs to be staunchly defended, shouldn't it also behoove such supporters to question the methods and tactics of the police when confronting civilians?

Many on here argue vehemently for the right to own guns, yet twist themselves into semantic pretzels trying to either change the subject or make excuses for poor police tactics.

We must question police methods and hold them accountable. We must. Who do you think the government is going to call on if they want to get tyrannical?


Cops are screwing themselves. Total reform needs to happen. At some point there will be a line where citizens vs cops will happen. Cops will not win the battle against hard working legal Americans.
 

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Cops are screwing themselves. Total reform needs to happen. At some point there will be a line where citizens vs cops will happen. Cops will not win the battle against hard working legal Americans.

I've said it and said it, I wish a police strike of some sort would happen nation wide, just so all of the good whiteys and blacks that hate them so much would be left to defend themselves for an allotted time. I'd say 1 week of zero police presence would fix the issue completely.

I've been around a lot of cops, even found myself in some trouble when I was younger. Most of them far outweigh the animals civilian life possesses by miles.