I would appreciate it greatly if we did not continue to interact via this message board.
The very clear line....
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I would appreciate it greatly if we did not continue to interact via this message board.
I guess welcome to the life of black men in this country.... sorry your life wasn't a walk in a park....but welcome to the life of my wife and her brothers...
We have maybe 10-20 instances of police officers who unjustifiably kill black people each year. That 10-20 too many and those cops should be prosecuted. However, you and your ilk just want to focus on those few deaths because it fits your race narrative. You don't give a damn about the greater tragedy regarding black murders by the thousands because they weren't victims of racism.
Sure thing. Just keep ignoring dead blacks and focus on that .0001%.
Seriously, everything you're doing is working out beautifully.
Really. It is.
And that's really all it is. They get to play "good white guy" and "poor black victim". There's only one reason to ignore the real problem for these types, and it's self centered and evil.
No her story is still the same. The cop asked for I'd. The man said I'm getting my wallet and also told officer he has a gun but he also has his concealed carry permit....the officer said stop moving.....the man stopped going for his wallet and went to put both hands up and was then shot 4 times.
Y'all still can't just straight up say the cop screwed up....it's "let's wait for more details...we only see the aftermath.....give me a damn break dude....there is no silver lining that's gonna come out and save this cops ***....hell Facebook and Twitter have multiple pictures of the car with working tail lights, which was the entire reason for the stop to begin with.... good thing the woman kept her cool. How she did I have no idea or else shed probably be dead too. And he kept the gun pulled on her and watched the dude bleed to death? Really?
Just because he is talking about issues with police doesn't mean he doesn't care about black on black crime. What, you want him to move to Chicago and walk around with a peace sign? Wtf you want him to do bro? What bout you. You ain't doing **** bout it either. You don't give a ****.
You see what you want to see and if that doesn't do it for you you don't see at all. I understand you believe all black men should do as they are told or be shot to death and all black women a lying hoes. You want all cops to be innocent till proven guilty and all black men shot dead if they don't do as they are told, you are ridiculous.
When people (white, black, purple, green) see a video of two large police officers holding down a suspect and then one of the officers takes his gun out and shoots the guy 3-4 times point blank in the chest... they've seen enough. That's enough to see.
When you attempt to explain away the obvious and parcel and pick out things to try and make that acceptable then you lose all credibility.
Black people are seeing yet one more black man held down by police and executed. Then they look around and see that being defended.
Some things just have to be called out as wrong immediately. Not imprisoned wrongfully or convicted without due process, but just say "what I see on that video is indefensible" because it is. So say it. We can do that.
If things surface later or whatever happens we will deal with that when the time comes. But right now, to me, every American that cares about having a decent law enforcement community should be able to say THAT IS NOT RIGHT so as to lend credibility at the most basic level and that IMO could calm some of the outrage.
When you attempt to explain away the obvious and parcel and pick out things to try and make that acceptable then you lose all credibility.
Black people are seeing yet one more black man held down by police and executed. Then they look around and see that being defended.
Some things just have to be called out as wrong immediately. Not imprisoned wrongfully or convicted without due process, but just say "what I see on that video is indefensible" because it is. So say it. We can do that.
If things surface later or whatever happens we will deal with that when the time comes. But right now, to me, every American that cares about having a decent law enforcement community should be able to say THAT IS NOT RIGHT so as to lend credibility at the most basic level and that IMO could calm some of the outrage.
Trayvon Martin
Sandra Bland
Kathryn Johnston
Sean Bell
Eric Garner
Rekia Boyd
Amadou Diallo
Mike Brown
Kimani Gray
Kenneth Chamberlain
Traverse McGill
Tamir Rice
Aiyana Stanley Jones
Freddie Gray
Prolly add These two to the list as well
No justice. None. Not even a cop saying, I messed up just a little.
Sandra Bland
Kathryn Johnston
Sean Bell
Eric Garner
Rekia Boyd
Amadou Diallo
Mike Brown
Kimani Gray
Kenneth Chamberlain
Traverse McGill
Tamir Rice
Aiyana Stanley Jones
Freddie Gray
Prolly add These two to the list as well
No justice. None. Not even a cop saying, I messed up just a little.
Did you seriously just use facebook and twitter as evidence? What happened before the video, exactly each detail? You seem to think I'm giving the cop a pass because I'm not carrying a pitchfork, I'm not.
Are you saying we should lynch the cop right now? Are you absolutely certain the man did exactly as she stated?
You want to make everything about race, and then you want to call people who disagree with you racist, I don't give a **** if your wife is black, I grew up with a mother that was married to a black man in an all white county in the 80's, so don't sit there and tell me what I do and don't know.
You are as much of the problem now as anything, and don't even realize it. There are cops that abuse their power, more crimes are committed by black people, there are white people that are racist, there are black people that play the victim bit, but the whole GD world does not revolve around those things.
And on the other side.. We see this as an excuse to riot and flip a ****, and during that chaos 10x the number of blacks are killed by other blacks, and yet, no one seems to care.
It's hard to feel the same sympathy, when in the last 24 hours, 5 blacks were killed in a black on black crime, and no one but the families care. Heck, I'm not even sure the families of the parties involved care as much as they do about a white officer killing a black man. How am I supposed to care about a somewhat-unjustified killing of a black man.. when it happens 10x a day? Because the other side of the gun was a white man? Because he wore a badge?
Face it, Black Live Matter, only matters if they are killed by someone who isn't black. How can you expect outside parties to care about this when the AA community doesn't even care about their own lives?
Exactly where I am with this nonsense. Keep doing what your doing and complain about everything but your own actions. That seems to be working out beautifully.
Definition of insanity...
Don't you care about any other race that gets killed by a cop?
Oh okay good, that's what I thought. Because the last time I saw someone twist themselves into a pretzel trying desperately to justify something was my buddy trying to tell me how it was the teacher's fault his kid got a C in math class.
Someone send this to Sean's buddy the governor who has PERSONALLY asked for his assistance. This would surely make him proud.
I'm not trying to justify anything, simply pointing out the facts we know. If that bothers you then so be it.
In order to have credibility you have to call things fair and square. Trayvon Martin was horseshit. Totally invented. That kid was in commission of a violent felony assault when he was killed justifiably. Media showed childhood pictures of Trayvon in his football uniform from when he was 13 years old. And those of us that are not rubes know exactly what ingredients Trayvon was buying for his purple drank, too. That is a BS case from the get-go.
Same thing for the fat bully that just came from a strong armed robbery in St. Louis...
What I HATE is that frauds like that cover up the genuinely disturbing ones like Sandra Bland, a young lady that was pulled over for an illegal lane change and ultimately killed because some cop thought he could make her put her cigarette out in her own car.
So if you want legitimacy, then speak with integrity.
Just to be clear, the cops did not have any history on this guy. They were responding to a call, but had no info on the suspect. So, the reason you leave out his history is that the cops had zero idea of what it was.
Black people account for 93 percent of all murders against black people. White people account for 84 percent of all murders of white people. THERE IS NO BLACK-ON-BLACK CRIME EPIDEMIC. The numbers are extremely close. Based upon the sheer amount of people in America, white people kill FAR more white people that black folks kill blacks, if we are talking numbers only. It is unfathomable to me that people continue to push this narrative. I'm sure there will be some point to refute this but oh well. I really don't want to take it to this place but you cant continue to talk about a black crime problem (that you really don't care about) and completely omit any other facts.
So you're saying they didn't know he had brandished a gun toward someone at the convenience store?
I don't think you understand stats, all that says is that of those murdered, it doesn't say how many were murdered.
Facts: Up until this point in 2016, 114 black folks have been killed by police. I don't have any more breakdown of the situations but if you think that will boil down to 10-20 incidents in which cops should be prosecuted you are crazy.
I didn't say that. I said they didn't have a history on the guy. I was responding to the poster that said, "don't leave out the suspects history including resisting arrest." The cops knew nothing about this guys history when they arrived. They knew he had confronted someone with a weapon, but they did not know his history including resisting arrest.
There is not enough information/video evidence for me to feel either way about the incident. The poster I quoted brought up in 2 posts about his history. I wanted to make it clear that the cops did not know any of his history when they arrived.
Everybody knows the call was for brandishing. He's saying the cops didn't have/know the criminal history of the suspect as he was not identified and a criminal history ran prior to the cops showing up.
If Black Lives Matter then the African American community should stop killing each other.
No sir, you do not understand stats. It is very simple to look up census data on how many white/black people are in America. It is also fairly simple to pull up crime stats from 2014 see the amount of white people murdered and factor it out for the 84 percent. Same for the number with black folks.
Just for the record I think "Black Lives Matter" is the dumbest most counter-productive group in history. Just awful. That fact that so many cater to those idiots is sickening. I look at them mostly as a hate group and have no more sympathy nor support for them than I would any other hate group.
And cops kill FAR more white people than black people. Yet white people tend to look at that and say they were doing the wrong thing and weren't listening to the police and made poor choices and it ended badly for them. Why don't white people burn down buildings and stomp on hoods of cars despite FAR more white people being killed?
No, you simply said 84% of whites are killed by whites, and 93% of blacks are killed by blacks and that given the vast population difference between the 2 races you concluded that whites kill far more people.
That is simply not correct, and has been pointed out to you several times already.
Of all murders blacks commit 52.5%, and whites 45.3 % thats of EVERY murder, not just what race or gender was killed. So of every 10 murders in the US over 5 of them are committed by blacks, who as you just posted are a much smaller portion of the population.
I understand what you're saying and that works if your trying to justify the cops actions. I am merely saying that it never would have happened if the felon wouldn't have been committing another crime (carrying a firearm, that he wasn't even carrying legally if he weren't a felon) to begin with.
This has all been discussed before but blacks commit more crime/violent crime than whites. It is a well known fact that blacks hate cops. More whites are killed by cops than blacks. You ststing that blacks are targeted to be killed by cops is ludicrious. There is more accountability now on cops than ever before.
Strange how cops only target blacks but you never hear nothing from the Latinos, Native Americans, Jewish & other minorities.
I'm not justifying anything. I 100% agree that the altercation would not have happened if the original altercation that was called into 911 didn't happen. That alone does not justify what happened. As I said in another post, I am neutral at this time because all of the video and evidence has not been put out. Maybe it was a justified shooting, maybe it was not. Time will tell.
It's more common among white people, it seems, to dehumanize criminals and just assume they had what's coming to them. Seems to be a much broader acceptance among white people that if a cop harms you, it was your fault and you deserved it. I don't think the problem is black people taking up for criminals. I think the problem is white people thinking "criminals" have lost their humanity and their right to due process, and accepting police as judge, jury, and executioner. So when white people are killed by police (275 this year in the US), other white shrug and figure he had it coming.
Anyone know today's body count from our militaristic police? Hope they are at least hitting quota.