There may eventually be hope for us to make the playoffs after all.
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I think we'll need to expand to 48 or 56 for us to have a legit shot at it, especially with our current staff.
I like 16 or 24. There’s enough incentive still with matchups and campus games to win, and (primarily) it gives us the chance of making it. It’s the hope of a lottery ticket that’d be fun for us rather than the result
This makes sense. There are too many schools who think a season is a failure if they don't make the playoffs for it to stay at 12 much longer. I think it eventually sticks at 32.
Every Mississippi State fan should be advocating for a 24 team playoff.
12 is too many 24 is insane
there will never be a team ranked 9-12 in an actual BCS style rankings that wins the national championship
UNLESS something is done about unlimited transfers and some type of “salary cap” is created or limiting roster size.
Hell ranked 5-8 is a long shot.
The #8 team won it last year.
unpopular opinion, but I agree with you. I think it's watered down now and adding teams will only do so further. The one thing I think it could address might be the number of players who opt out but I'm not convinced that a first round draft choice on the number 24 seed would participate.
One of the most exciting things in college sports is March Madness. There’s maybe 10 teams in the field of 68 that have a good shot at winning it but that doesn’t take away from the excitement of being in the tournament as a 12 seed.
64 team, double elimination, round robin.
It will not be long until a coach gets fired after his team gets beat in the first round of a 16 or 24 team playoff.
With this many more games, the walk ons will be playing half speed with deep bruises. Exciting.
My dead horse that I keep beating:
6 is too many. 5-whatever, or most years, 4-whatever has about a Mississippi Power Ball chance at winning it.
As has been pointed out. So many school see not making the playoff as a failure. This is, of course, ridiculous. I remember the talking heads who opposed a playoff from the start told us this would happen. Hell, Jackie told us this would happen if I remember correctly. Hell, it's damn near impossible to crown a true champion in a 136 team league, which is essentially what we are pretending to do. At most, the "champion" will play less than 12% of the league each year including the playoffs. Compare that to the NFL who plays close to half the league before the playoffs start. That's why conferences and conference championships were so important in the past. They meant something. It's just an impossible task in football with a league that large.
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I would call that "Apples and Oranges" two totally different sports, but that's just one mans opinion that the committee will never take into consideration. If I were betting on this, I assume your view will win out.
Yes and I’m not advocating 68 football teams make the playoff. I wouldn’t go past 24 or maybe not even 16. You could do 20 and have the top 4 teams get a bye.
Every year we go down this path of the currrent structure there will be more and more parity. Increasing the playoff becomes more feasible.
Yeah the idea that the number 10 team or whatever can’t win it is no longer the case. I think you could put 20 teams on a neutral field this year and anyone could beat anyone.
Maybe. But these first round games last year were boring as hell. And I doubt this year will be any different. I'll start watching at the semi-finals, same as last year.
And that’s probably the only time in 25 years and they probably wouldn’t have been 8 in a BCS style ranking
Basketball is very different than football.
it’s easier to upset someone in basketball and it happens way more in basketball.
bad shooting night
Turnovers
Hot shooting night
In today’s ncaa football number 1 can have a terrible day and still out physical number 8 most times.
the gap is narrowing but not enough for 24 teams.
Yeah, they were #8 seed, but the #6 ranked team. But everyone knew going in they were one of the favorites to win. Just an inexplicable loss to Michigan dropped them.
Pros:
Playoffs are more entertaining than a standard bowl that has no championship implication.
Cons:
4-5 games on top of 12 regular season is a lot. But they get paid a lot now so 17 em.
Questions: how does this impact existing bowl environment? Make this a home field deal until the final four/8 or so? Leverage existing bowls for 1st/2nd round spots? Not that I truly care about the pop tart bowl outside of the mascot - just curious how that all works in a big playoff scenario
Playoffs are more entertaining than a standard bowl that has no championship implication.
Cons:
4-5 games on top of 12 regular season is a lot. But they get paid a lot now so 17 em.
Questions: how does this impact existing bowl environment? Make this a home field deal until the final four/8 or so? Leverage existing bowls for 1st/2nd round spots? Not that I truly care about the pop tart bowl outside of the mascot - just curious how that all works in a big playoff scenario
Until MSU becomes serious about football, we aren't making the playoffs. Especially now with 10 - P4 games per year. No way in Hades.
32 teams. 5 rounds. 9 days. Games every other day with one rest day between games. Only the strong will survive.
So the number 9 team would play five games if they got to the NC game. What does attendance look like for that? Majorly of fans could not afford to go to all of them so do they go to the first one? Or do they hope to win and wait until later rounds. The hotels and Stubhub certainly love this.
I think that 8 (without a required G5 selection) is the correct number.
But, we’re way past that….it’s just a cash grab at this point. 16 is really no different than 12 to me. Since we’re already at 12 and aren’t going backwards, just make the move to 16 and call it a day. And get rid of the bye round so that there’s not any more weeks to add to the schedule.
Agree, except I'd be OK throwing G5 a bone for 1 of the 8. But like you say, it's a race to the next higher number. 12, soon to be 14, and not long until 16 or 24. 15 years from now we'll probably be at 32, if not 48.
Really? You think Virginia has a snowball’s chance in hell over Ohio State on a neutral field? Utah has a chance against UGA or A&M?
Agree to disagree.
Playoffs should be on campus at the higher seed through at least the semifinals. And for the 1 or 3 neutral site games, none of this bullsh*t rotating between the major bowl sites. Do it like the Super Bowl. Any city can bid for any of those games and the highest bid gets the games.
Correct, and that loophole has already been closed.
I agree with most others that you’re never going to have a winner from outside the Top 8. And I’ll also go to my deathbed claiming that if it was still a 4-team format last year, Ohio State would have beaten Michigan by 5 TD’s.
I am advocating for whoever in the hell came up with the MAIS playoff arrangement to offer a CFP playoff solution. I can get behind a situation where a 2-10 SEC also-ran has a shot at the CFP.
No, I don't think they have a chance. But I'm also not crazy about giving at-large bids to 2-loss teams. I'd be OK with giving the G5 their own division and let them have their own champion, which I really think is the right answer anyway.
Approximately 20% of FCS teams make the playoffs;
Approximately 20% of D2 teams make the playoffs;
Approximately 17% of D3 teams make the playoffs;
Approximately 21% of NAIA teams make the playoffs;
Approximately 19% of D1 basketball teams make the Dance;
Let's use the smallest number, 17%. 136 D1 teams, 17% is 23. What are we talking about here? Decide between 16-24 and move on. There's no rationale for less than that.
Approximately 20% of D2 teams make the playoffs;
Approximately 17% of D3 teams make the playoffs;
Approximately 21% of NAIA teams make the playoffs;
Approximately 19% of D1 basketball teams make the Dance;
Let's use the smallest number, 17%. 136 D1 teams, 17% is 23. What are we talking about here? Decide between 16-24 and move on. There's no rationale for less than that.
I agree. I’m actually all in favor of just letting G5 do their own thing entirely. Cut the umbilical cord. P4 teams should just stop playing them (or stop being incentivized to do so). Bowls can match up P4 vs. G5 if they want….that’s up to them.
My ideal scenario is 12 game schedule - all P4 team games preferably should be conference games or P4 games. Keep a few bowl games. 10 game conference schedule for all P4 leagues. No minimum win requirement for P4 teams to play in bowls, the only requirement is that you can’t select a team with fewer P4 wins over one that has more, based on the bowl tie-ins structure. G5 wins / FCS wins don’t count towards this.
SOS-wise, G5 and FCS teams should be removed from the calculation when comparing teams for potential CFP bids, etc. It will essentially be like those games didn’t happen, if you choose to play them.
If they ever did make that split, then a 12-teamer is the correct size for both, assuming a reasonable midpoint, like 65 or so in each division.
I think 16 is where the CFP committee would like it to be even next year but most likely won’t happen until 2027.
If you can’t finish in the Top 16 in football out of 130 some odd schools then you don’t deserve to be in it anyway.
If you can’t finish in the Top 16 in football out of 130 some odd schools then you don’t deserve to be in it anyway.
This is the way to go. Do away with bowl games. Everyone's goal is to make the playoffs. The higher seed is the home team on their campus at least until the final 4. Attendance will be sold out, it would look nothing like these bowl games we see now.