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topdawg.sixpack

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And I hope Stricklin is smarter than this....<div>
</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">"It's the Liberty Bowl's hope that State, if it gets invited by the Music City Bowl as the league's No. 8 selection, declines the invitation to play in Nashville in favor of Memphis."</span>
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</div><div>http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/nov/10/liberty-bowl-likes-hand-dealt-so-far-sizzle-x/</div></div>
 
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topdawg.sixpack

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And I hope Stricklin is smarter than this....<div>
</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">"It's the Liberty Bowl's hope that State, if it gets invited by the Music City Bowl as the league's No. 8 selection, declines the invitation to play in Nashville in favor of Memphis."</span>
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</div><div>http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/nov/10/liberty-bowl-likes-hand-dealt-so-far-sizzle-x/</div></div>
 
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RebelBruiser

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They're not a great bowl. They pretty much need either Memphis or one of Ole Miss, Arkansas, Tennessee, or MSU to fall to them from the SEC for them to have a pretty good attendance.

Memphis is never making it. Tennessee, even at 6-6 would never fall past the Music City Bowl due to the tickets they can sell, so it's pretty much Arkansas, MSU, or Ole Miss. If one of those schools doesn't fall in the 6-6 range AND fall in the pecking order to them, they're in a bad spot.

USM could promise them 10 tickets sold though, so that's good.
 
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attended and promised myself I would never do that to myself again .... I'll gladly go to Nashville, but never again Memphis</p>
 
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randystewart

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the SEC should not have a bowl tie in with CUSA. It is dumb, because there is no excitement for the SEC team and you have nothing to gain. Even if you go and beat Houston by 21, you have not gained anything for your program. However, if you lose, you have just embarrassed yourselves and more importantly the SEC. I sincerely hope that the Liberty Bowl lives through conference restructuring and bowl renegotiations, but I hope they add a legit conference tie in.
 
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mjh94

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that place was THE biggest dump i've ever been to.. the liberty bowl is a palace compared to legion field.
 
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notthisshitagain

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...in that mass of bodies due to the bottleneck created by the idiot ushers. They wouldn't let people go up the ramps if you didn't have a ticket for that section and I truly feared that my wife and I would be crushed if we didn't get out of there. Never again Liberty Bowl, never again.
 
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I have no problem with a lower tier SEC team playing the CUSA champion. It's a decent matchup. I just think it's the POS stadium and most people's aversion to anything Memphis that makes people hate on the Liberty Bowl. Move it to NOLA and you wouldn't hear a peep out of anyone...
 
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Given the choice of 5-7 and no bowl, and 6-6 and Liberty Bowl, my wife and I will be some bottleneck crowd fighting sons of bitches again.
 
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...had a mighty fine time. It no GA Dome, but let's not make it out to be a complete dump.

Having said that, we won't turn down Nashville... if only because we've never played in the MCB.
 
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randystewart

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You could move the game to the moon, and it would still be a game that nobody gives a **** about. Why? Because it is a SEC team playing a homecoming opponent. Ratings and interest wise, a 6-6 SEC team playing a 6-6 ACC, BIG 10, or Big 12 will draw decent interest. The only way the game currently gets any attention nationally is if the SEC team gets beat. It is an absolute no win situation for the SEC.
 
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Topgundawg

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team is that plays there better tighten up their jock strap. I'm sure the bears would like to go there. Like the other poster said
I would rather go there than sit on my *** at home wishing we had made a bowl.
 
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EAVdog

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But what made it worse is that they were telling folks to go in the wrong gates. This forced my group to have to fight our waythrough the bottleneck to get back to the side where our seats were. What was infuriating is that our seats were right in front of the gate we were directed AWAY from.
I have a friend from Memphis who is involved somehow with the Libtery Bowl. He mentioned that there were rumors the game staff was trying to make a point that the Liberty Bowl was an inferior stadium by monkeying everything up. It was right when there was a big push to get a new stadium downtown. I figured that was just crazy talk but honestly since it's Memphis I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.
Regardless it was a terrible situation, like being crushed on Bourbon Street during Mardi Gras minus the beads and flashing.
 
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I don't get out to the Liberty Bowl very often, but our bowl game was actually one of the better experiences that I've had there. I thought it was a lot of fun, but I guess damn near anything would be after six years of misery.

I always think it's a little funny when people rag on the LB because if it weren't my strong allegiance to MSU, I'd be calling DWS one of the biggest shitholes in the country. They've dressed it up nicely and the moo tube is top notch, but...
1) The rows are WAY too 17ing long. If your seats are anywhere near the middle of a row, you can forget leaving until halftime. It's not worth climbing over 45 people to go take a piss and then getting cussed when you make your way back to your seat.
2) The concessions are still a cluster. First of all, the majority of them are placed right in the middle of the walkway under the stadium so once the line gets about 10 deep, you're literally standing right in the middle of mainstream traffic. Second, I don't how selling cokes, hot dogs, and peanuts can possibly take so long, but it does. I made a break for the bathroom right after the 1st qtr of the LSU game when I saw a girl on my row get up. After quickly taking care of business, I stood in line for a hot dog and coke and by the time I got back to my seat, there were 4 minutes left before the half. I have never had this issue at any other SEC stadium.
3) The bathrooms are still downright embarrassing. Don't need to go into detail on this one...

I cannot wait for the stadium renovation because it's needed it badly for 20 years.
 
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Flatland Dawg

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The Liberty Bowl was absolutely horrible, and for a lot of reasons besides the product on the field. Crxxmball aside, I have never been in a worse crowd control situation. It was impossible to move after getting through the outside gates, because the idiots wouldn't let anyone into a section without a ticket for that section. As if we're too incompetent to figure out how to walk around inside the bowl.

That place simply was not built to hold 50,000+, and we'll bring that many again if that's where we end up. That said, it was a much better experience at the Memphis game, mostly because Memphis has only slightly more fans than USM.
 
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It was awful, and the concourse was packed. Many of them were rude South Florida (or was it Central Florida?) fans who just knew they were going to beat us. They had us enter at the wrong place and we had to make our way halfway around the stadium through the mob. And that was after walking over a mile after parking in somebody's front yard.<div>
</div><div>And we won ... I can imagine how it would have been if we lost.</div><div>
</div><div>I'm not going back there.</div><div>
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maroonmania

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to play at LP Field in Nashville to go back to the Liberty Bowl is beyond me. I will gladly see us in the Liberty if that's our only choice but playing in the stadium of the Titans where we've not been before would by far be the first choice for me. In fact, I will go to that but doubt I will spend my money to back to the Liberty Bowl again.
 
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Here is a link to the TV ratings. Take a look at the rating since the Liberty Bowl switched to the SEC 8 / CUSA 1 matchup.

http://www.bcsfootball.org/news/story?id=4819384

The Liberty averaged a 3.63 over the 5 years since the switch. Music City, the ACC match-up that usually gets a 7 to 9 win ACC team, and likely most comparable for this purpose, averaged a 3.18. The Independence, which had the SEC matched up against a 6-6 Big 12 or Pac 12 team, averaged a 2.41.

Other highlights include the Liberty out gaining the Outback in the 09/10 (8-4 N'Western) and 07/08 (9-3 Wisconsin) games. The 07/08 Liberty also outperformed that year's Cotton featuring an 11-2 Wisconsin team, 4.41 to 3.5.

Finally, the last two bowl games that MSU has played in are obviously the Gator Bowl last year and Liberty Bowl in 07/08. We drew a 1.71 last year against a 7-5 Michigan team and a 4.41 against CUSA champing UCF in 07/08. That's over twice the rating.

The matchup is holding its own against better bowls. It's just a crappy road trip. Double check my math - I went over this pretty quick...

ETA: This isn't me suggesting the Liberty Bowl is a better bowl for us. I'd take the Music City over Liberty on the count of it being a better road trip. I'm just trying to show that the matchup hasn't necessarily been a bad one in terms of TV ratings, or competitiveness for that matter. The 5 games have been decided by an average of less than 6 points.
 
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Hump4Hoops

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To play in a better bowl in a better stadium, and also not risk losing to a strong CUSA team.
 
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natchezdawg

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ACC school. Why anyone would rather play a C-USA school in Orange Mound instead of The U in Nashville is beyond me. Hell, I would much rather play a Big East school in Birmingham, especially if someone like West Virginia was the opponent......
 
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MSUDOG92

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...at the last Liberty Bowl. We started into the stadium about 30 minutes before kickoff and didn't get to our seats until the first quarter was almost over. Stood in the outer concourse, unable to movefor I don't know how long. If I recall correctly, it was all because ushers were not allowing people to enter into the inner concourse if they did not have tickets for that particular entrance'ssection. At one point, some Liberty Bowl officials "pushed through" the crowd and were soundly booed by everyone else.
 
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