But we do have a legal process in place for people here legally or illegally and they get due process, one of the great achievements of western jurisprudence.
BTW, what are your views on other vaccines? What do you think of the HPV vaccine?
This is not a hypothetical case.....
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BTW, what are your views on other vaccines? What do you think of the HPV vaccine?
If J6 was really was a serious attempt by hundreds of people to overthrow our government and the J6 "committee" was doing legitimate work to "protect" our democracy, what was the need for pre-emptive pardons for them from the president ?
I know what it means. You are one. It’s really easy for everyone to see.
Find me 5 people who were charged with felonies before J6. Then let’s compare them to some of the 500 plus charges and see if they are similar.
IF you get a reply to this, it will be something along the lines of, but they didn’t enter the capitol.
Damn, @dawgstudent …let the good times roll…looks like we’re gonna end the Ultimate OT Summer with a bang!
I’ve got no problem with the HPV vaccine that is RECOMMENDED and not forced on people.
Guess what. I’ve got no problem with the Covid vaccine. I even encouraged my parents (mid to late 60s at the time) to take the vaccine. RISK REWARD
BUT I didn’t take it bc there was little reward for me to do so. Being a healthy 40 year old male and all.
Don’t bring logic and common sense into this.
But IF you get a response, it will be something like “to protect them from trump being a dictator!!” Even though Obama and Biden do way more authoritarian stuff.
I put "vaccine" in quotes for a reason. The COVID shot is not a vaccine in my opinion and was too highly rushed and pretty ****** since I got COVID after being forced to take it. My only opinion on other vaccines is they shouldn't be forced on anyone. I will be getting the shingles vaccine this week.
These go on as long as game threads. I expect fewer during baseball season because I think we'll be really good.
I totally expect just that but if that was in fact the purpose why weren't hundreds/thousands of the same type pardons written for other Dem operatives and pols involved in other various Trump witch hunts and lawfare ?
Whether anyone who was arrested, tried(Due Process), and convicted for J6 involvement had a felony prior to J6 is irrelevant.
This is your typical posting style- you introduce something that doesn't prove your prior claim, and then you argue that not accepting the unrelated point is evidence of hypocrisy or that it proves your prior point.
It's a vaccine that prolonged the lives of millions of elderly around the world. Over 5 billion people got vaxxed. Now we know some didn't need to. I agree there were lots of mistakes and overreactions when Covid hit.
This is not the Gotcha question you think it is.
If J6 was an insurrection, and the J6 committee was legitimate (You're hypothesis) then obviously the committee members might need protection from the Insurrectionist-in-chief being back in power.
Adam Schiff agrees with you though. He said his pardon was totally unnecessary.
I think you are too stupid to understand my point.
you are mad illegals aren’t getting due process (they are).
but you celebrated J6 Arrests (you did. We know it)
but many J6 people who were charged with felonies were treated completely different than previous cases before them.
That’s called HYPOCRISY!!
Yeah bc trump has done all sorts of authoritarian things like weaponize the fbi snd cia to spy on an incoming president and force people to take vaccines by illegally using OSHA.
Did it really? Or did it give people a false sense of security seeing how you still got covid after the vaccine and after multiple booster shots? Was it the vaccine or was it the fact that every variant of covid got weaker and weaker? The highest percentage of deaths before and after the vaccine and booster shots was still for those 65 or older. Remember the whole narrative of this is the disease of the unvaccinated and if you get the shot you won't get covid and won't have to wear a mask?
We should probably have a Six Pack Speak Summit this fall and no holds barred "just let them work it out" event.
Don't pay me any attention. My kids already told me that I don't pay enough attention to what is going on politically in this country anyway. Somebody has to be indifferent, I guess.
Don't let this distract us from the fact that In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The A-Team.
What's left of it...amazing how much it has changed since I was out there.
My question was.....Why stop with the J6 committee if the goal was to protect people from "insurrectionist-in-chief". There were many many attacks on Trump by many many people. Why not grant the same pre-emptive protection to them also.
I want to make it clear I am not a maga-type Trump supporter although I agree with most what he's done. The J6 committee, headed up by our own "honorable" Benny Thompson, was just particularly bogus IMO.
I can only speculate here, but I am guessing the pre-emptive pardon issue was directly tied to the fact that Trump and incoming Admin had promised to bring charges against people involved in the J6 committee and involved in the Trump J6 case.
Again, that is simply my best guess.
It looks like we are now firmly onto J6 as an outrage issue within this thread.
1- most people are receiving the Due Process they are guaranteed. Based on actual examples over the last 5 months though, many have been denied Due Process.
2- I did not celebrate J6 arrests. I didn't keep up on it because tracking J6 arrests isn't something I am interested in.
I do like knowing people who violently broke into the Capitol, damaged the Capitol, and hurt security at the Capitol were arrested and convicted(Due Process).
3- If J6 people were treated differently than prior cases where people violently attacked and damaged the Capitol, that is news to me. Please cite examples to defend your claim.
LOL Trump seemed to promise a lot retribution to a lot people either verbally or through insinuation during the campaign. I'm not interested in arguing J6 in any way it just kinda sticks out to me that he singled them out of the many judges, pols and operatives that could have been considered as potential Trump targets. My only guess would be they did some things in the course of their investigation that pushed the envelope a bit too far and thus had some exposure .
You are certainly free to guess that the committee did something inappropriate. I have seen zero evidence of that though, so your guess seems quite unsubstantiated. But again, you are free to guess really anything.
The first part of your post makes it seem like Trump only threatened to prosecute the J6 committee. That is ridiculous.
- He threatened a ton of people during his campaign.
- He threatened to prosecute people that were part of his old administration.
- He threatened to prosecute elected officials.
- He threatened to prosecuteprivate citizens.
- He threatened to prosecute, military and government law enforcement.
- He threatened to prosecute judges.
- He threatened to prosecute lawyers.
He quite literally sued someone for fraud, simy because thry published polling numbers that showed he was trailing in Iowa shortly before the election.
He ran a campaign based on personal vengeance and retribution.
So I am guessing people were concerned he wofoluld low through on his many threats against them.
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A number of studies show the vaccine prolonged the lives of the elderly. Kids didn't need it and yes variants weakened but, like the flu vaccine, it protected against dying. And the CDC and Fauci lied about how effective it might actually be. It was an early stage of a novel virus and people didn't want a major pandemic to happen. After Covid, I don't think we'll ever lockdown the economy or close schools again because of a pandemic.
9 pages in. I’m assuming we’ve all come to an agreement on the matters at hand??
We now all agree that the backup QB is the better choice and the coach is a moron for not playing him.
This is a progressive chatroom, Sir. College football is too bourgeois for SPS*******
Indeed. If you miss this you better be dead or in jail
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