Time for lineup changes?

[PirateBlue08]

From what I am seeing he has to establish position better and then demand the ball. Right now his strength is within 5 feet or so of the tin. That and he takes time bullying his way for a better shot. That demands a double team and until out shooters do a better job from the arc outlet passes aren't a solution. Meaning he won't have a lot of room to shoot.

Needs to be quicker with the ball and the wings need to become targets which will only happen when and if they start shooting better from the arc.

Could it also be said that the opposite is true where if Hines is fed the ball in the post more consistently and he is effective, it will draw double teams and that by definition means open shooters are waiting outside?

In other words, I don't think the shooters need to start by being better, we need to dump it into Hines who we already know is physically able to overpower nearly everyone he faces, and that will lead to open looks for shooters, which will lead to better shooting percentages. Hines is a capable passer, we've seen that.

I really hope we start using him that way. That is basic basketball. And I don't see our teams doing it much. If we can't do it with Hines, who is a huge body that can present a great target and can't be moved off his spots, then who can we do it with?

 

[catholicman]

Could it also be said that the opposite is true where if Hines is fed the ball in the post more consistently and he is effective, it will draw double teams and that be definition means open shooters are waiting outside?

In other words, I don't think the shooters need to start by being better, we need to dump it into Hines who we already know is physically able to overpower nearly everyone he faces, and that will lead to open looks for shooters, which will lead to better shooting percentages. Hines is a capable passer, we've seen that.

I really hope we start using him that way. That is basic basketball. And I don't see our teams doing it much. If we can't do it with Hines, who is a huge body that can present a great target and can't be moved off his spots, then who can we do it with?

Does Hines ever kick it back out? I don't remember seeing that.

 

[Seton75]

Does Hines ever kick it back out? I don't remember seeing that.

The times lately that the post players get the ball by design is kinda small. i have been asking for them to be featured more all season.

both guys have made good passes to cutters though not lately as the cuts to the hoop no longer open i assume. nieither guy is selfish with the ball (imo no one on this team is) passing to the post majkes the defense pay more attn to our very good centers. that opens up the court. and i think both guys can put the ball in the basket

 

[knowknow]

When I played Rec Ball, Coach Foley always used to say the time to make lineup changes was when things were going well. We stunk but it wasn't my fault. I never got off the bench.

 

[sobo1]

There are 79 power conference schools (BE, ACC, BigTen, BigXII, SEC) and we rank 72nd in offensive efficiency. The only schools ranked lower are some of the worst high majors the nation - Maryland, Marquette, Rutgers, Georgia Tech, Depaul, Cincinnati, Boston College. I don't recall what our efficiency metrics were early on in the season, but it seemed that we were playing much better on offense up until PC game. I don't know if the past 3 games dropped our metrics significantly (it's possible).

Having said that I wouldn't make any changes to the lineup. We are winning off our defense, and that's our calling card. Hopefully the offense returns to what it was earlier in the season when we were taking BTA on all our opponents.

 

[PF58]

When I played Rec Ball, Coach Foley always used to say the time to make lineup changes was when things were going well. We stunk but it wasn't my fault. I never got off the bench.

Hilarious!

 

[Seton75]

There are 79 power conference schools (BE, ACC, BigTen, BigXII, SEC) and we rank 72nd in offensive efficiency. The only schools ranked lower are some of the worst high majors the nation - Maryland, Marquette, Rutgers, Georgia Tech, Depaul, Cincinnati, Boston College. I don't recall what our efficiency metrics were early on in the season, but it seemed that we were playing much better on offense up until PC game. I don't know if the past 3 games dropped our metrics significantly (it's possible).

Having said that I wouldn't make any changes to the lineup. We are winning off our defense, and that's our calling card. Hopefully the offense returns to what it was earlier in the season when we were taking BTA on all our opponents.

We are lucky they keep score, the one stat that matters most

 

[sobo1]

It’s actually funny you say that because it seems so (too) much emphasis is put on NET ranking but the one metric that’s not accounted for in the net algorithm is winning percentage.

 

[PirateBlue08]

Does Hines ever kick it back out? I don't remember seeing that.

Is he being coached to? Is that part of our offense? I think it should be. Basic basketball. It's how a capable offense consistently generates open shots. Practically the whole point of having a competent big man is not just for post ups but it opens the floor for everyone else. Similar to how a point guard's penetration does the same.

We rarely have weapons like that. When we do, we need to use them instead of endless drives into the paint hoping for fouls. We need a functioning offensive scheme to get anywhere in conference play, much less post-season. Catholicman, I think Jesus would have said "A team can't live on comebacks alone."

Maybe last year we lacked guys who even could hit wide open shots but we don't this year. Everyone 1-4 in our lineup is capable and we bring a bunch of guys off the bench who can too. Our worst is probably Clark and even he can hit some when he's wide open.

 

[Piratz]

Speaking of offense…

 

[HallGuy2323]

Speaking of offense…

Shouldn’t this make playing defense easier? This is the second time I’ve seen a post about a team not taking a single mid range shot.

If youre playing defense you only have to worry about 2 things.. stopping a drive to the hoop and contesting a 3 point shot. Wouldn’t a 2-3 zone be most effective today if your bigs on the back end can rotate out ?

 

[NIL BAD]

From what I am seeing he has to establish position better and then demand the ball. Right now his strength is within 5 feet or so of the tin. That and he takes time bullying his way for a better shot. That demands a double team and until out shooters do a better job from the arc outlet passes aren't a solution. Meaning he won't have a lot of room to shoot.

Needs to be quicker with the ball and the wings need to become targets which will only happen when and if they start shooting better from the arc.

Our spacing also needs to be much better. He's very easy to double team & deny because our wings & 4 don't separate enough.