Trans Athlete To Compete in Women’s Weightlifting at Olympics! Is It Fair?

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Funny how it's always male-to-female transpeople going into women's sports but never female-to-male transpeople going into male sports. It's almost as if there's a difference.

I just can’t wrap my mind around the collective stupidity that the human race is entertaining because wokeness is more important than reality.

Without the efforts of Doc Spears and CFE REPORTING these Transgenders never get to do their Olympic dream.
 
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It is sheer lunacy. There are physical truths to this world that are immutable. Water is wet, fire burns, gravity exists, Pitt sucks, etc... Human beings are a sexual dimorphic species. Sure there are some aberrancies such as intersex people, but exceptions do not disprove the rule. Intersex people or those with other chromosomal abnormalities do not negate that the vast majority of human beings fall into 2 easily identifiable groups that we call male and female. Just like those born with limb abnormalities do not negate human beings are a bipedal species with 2 arms and 2 legs.

Human beings are different from every other animal in that we have a highly developed prefrontal cortex. This allows human beings to transcend the primal urges and instincts that drive most other species' behaviors. Those primal urges and instincts are still there in humans and many people do let them run their lives primarily, but they are not devoid of the choice to be driven by these base desires like every other species. It is why human beings can self sacrifice when other species would not. It is also why some people can transcend the tendencies usually seen in most human males and females. Hence the concept of a "male" brain or "female" brain is ********. There is only the human brain. Masculine and Feminine traits are not arbitrary concepts, but rather observations across generations where certain traits were seen more in human males and others more in human females. Hormonal development certainly tends to influence humanity, but the prefrontal cortex can conquer all. Thus a female who exhibits more traits commonly seen in males is not a male or having a male brain nor is the reverse true. Behaviors do not determine male or female. The male/female binary is an observable and objective finding based upon chromosomes. This leads to which hormone predominates during both development and adulthood which in turn directly affects physiology such as genitalia appearance, bone density, bone structure, muscle/tendon density, etc...

People who feel uncomfortable with their biologic male or female status have gender dysphoria. Its a simple, straight forward description of the condition in that the person is not happy with the physical realities of their body. Males who believe they ARE, or can BECOME females, and vice versa are delusional. These people believe to be true something that is not consistent with physical, objectively observable reality. There is more reason to believe the schizophrenic who claims the government is sending them secret messages through the radio than that a biological male or female claiming to be anything other. Yet the schizophrenic will be labeled delusional without a second thought and the current thinking is that reinforcing delusions is detrimental. While the delusion that is transgenderism of being something objectively inconsistent with reality ARE reinforced. Take the example of a person suffering from body dysmorphia in the form of anorexia. This is a person that is delusional in the fixed belief that their objectively observable malnourished body is in fact obese. Now imagine giving that anorexic the fun house mirror that makes everyone look wider, encouraging them that they really are fat and should keep living out "their truth" while demanding everyone else do the same in encouraging them to lose more weight. It is not only incorrect, its is ******* INSANE AND HARMFUL. Yet this the exact same as validating a transgender person.

EVERYTHING else in the mental health world is about trying to help people cope with realities of the world they are unhappy with a healthy way. A depressed person who feels as though the entire world is conspiring against them does not need that notion reinforced. An emotionally crippled introvert does not need to be told their feeling that everyone is watching and judging them is well founded. The narcissist does not need to be told that they are in fact the center of universe. And the transgender person does not need to be told that their unhappiness with the realities of the world are best managed by simply ignoring those realities and substituting their feelings instead.
 

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Thanks Doc Bell. Well stated. But I'll shorten it for you. We are born male and female. Those dating or marrying same sex individuals choose this lifestyle. I don't care what lie they tell themselves to think differently.

But I am not the one that will judge those choosing that lifestyle. I don't have to accept it or bring hate towards them but I should not judge them.They will meet that judgement in the end.
 

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Funny how it's always male-to-female transpeople going into women's sports but never female-to-male transpeople going into male sports. It's almost as if there's a difference.

I just can’t wrap my mind around the collective stupidity that the human race is entertaining because wokeness is more important than reality.

Without the efforts of Doc Spears and CFE REPORTING these Transgenders never get to do their Olympic dream.

Studies have indicated that physical advantage people born male have over females is permanent. I think the trans (males competing in female sports) could very well eliminate true "female" competitive sports. There are excellent female athletes who aspire to competitive sports from their youth - train, practice and develop their skills then come up against unfair (people born male) competition. It's just a damned shame. IMHO
 

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Rather than casting aspersions, we should simply wish WVUFanForever good luck in this event.
Wow...imagine bringing me up in a thread im not even part of...just like the high school baseball thread...queen coal can't keep my name out of his posts....

Talk about an obsessed weirdo....you, turdboy and bitchgregor name drop me every day.

It's hard to believe how rent free it is that I live in their heads every day.
 

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Thanks Doc Bell. Well stated. But I'll shorten it for you. We are born male and female. Those dating or marrying same sex individuals choose this lifestyle. I don't care what lie they tell themselves to think differently.

But I am not the one that will judge those choosing that lifestyle. I don't have to accept it or bring hate towards them but I should not judge them.They will meet that judgement in the end.
Agree and add. Biological males should never compete against true females. Also, if a male "feels" like and identifies as a female today they should not be using female restrooms in school till they have the operation. Keep females in school safe from predators.
 

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^^^ Triggered band dork alert!!! Ha ha, good luck in your weightlifting event!!!
Do you even know what triggered means?

SO...why do you keep bringing up my name all the time? You obsessed much with me?

Some day....you might post something that someone actually laughs at.
 

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Do you even know what triggered means?

SO...why do you keep bringing up my name all the time? You obsessed much with me?

Some day....you might post something that someone actually laughs at.
Do you ever post anything of substance? Same old material. Same old desperate attempt to get attention. If you weren't such a forum addicted dork I would feel sorry for you.
 

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Do you ever post anything of substance? Same old material. Same old desperate attempt to get attention. If you weren't such a forum addicted dork I would feel sorry for you.
And how long have you been following around CFE?

The guy with over 5000 posts here says I am a forum addicted dork......LMAO...too funny.

Now...just go away.
 

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I get everything right...follow my lead kid...I could turn you into a decent poster....but if you are going to attach yourself at the hip of queencoal....not much I can do for you.
Still no creativity from the Elton John wannabe. Don't beg for Rootmaster to be your friend, as he's figured you out.
 

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LMAO....too bad after all these years you haven't queen...you are still chasing me around this board like a lost puppy making more repetitive and lame *** band jokes.

Since you clearly will never get it...one day I may feel sorry for you and let you in the joke osugrad.
 

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Oh, I've figured you out 100%, Mandy. You were shunned by your school's sports teams, so you sought acceptance in the marching band. Now, you're a fan boy following high school baseball of all things, and begging for acceptance and validation on a message board 24-7. You know that I'm right.
 
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I get everything right...follow my lead kid...I could turn you into a decent poster....but if you are going to attach yourself at the hip of queencoal....not much I can do for you.

I'm just going to assume that Rootmaster is pro biological men pretending to be women competing in women's sports. It's only natural with his stance that anything less than winning all the time is the only way to avoid accepting mediocrity and the realities of the situation be damned. If he doesn't, it invalidates all his previous criticisms.
 

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I'm just going to assume that Rootmaster is pro biological men pretending to be women competing in women's sports. It's only natural with his stance that anything less than winning all the time is the only way to avoid accepting mediocrity and the realities of the situation be damned. If he doesn't, it invalidates all his previous criticisms.
I'd say you are pretty close to hitting the nail on the head.
 

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Oh, I've figured you out 100%, Mandy. You were shunned by your school's sports teams, so you sought acceptance in the marching band. Now, you're a fan boy following high school baseball of all things, and begging for acceptance and validation on a message board 24-7. You know that I'm right.
Whatever you say All-City....LMAO!
 

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What's "All-City?" Were you an "All-City" piccolo piper? I know about all-conference, all-district, and all-state, but unless you're from a big city, there is no such thing as "all-city" in sports. You were something like eighth chair out of seven piccolo players in your high school...am I right?
 

WVUFanForever

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What's "All-City?" Were you an "All-City" piccolo piper? I know about all-conference, all-district, and all-state, but unless you're from a big city, there is no such thing as "all-city" in sports. You were something like eighth chair out of seven piccolo players in your high school...am I right?
Figures you wouldn't know what...All-City, All-Conference or All-State meant in sports...

Eating your popcorn in the stands while all your friends played and the band guys did your mom...am I right?
 

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Figures you wouldn't know what...All-City, All-Conference or All-State meant in sports...

Eating your popcorn in the stands while all your friends played and the band guys did your mom...am I right?
No All-City in sports in small town America, band dork. Were you all-Bridgeport in woodwinds...or was it brass instruments?
 

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No All-City in sports in small town America, band dork. Were you all-Bridgeport in woodwinds...or was it brass instruments?
When the tuba player and drummer were tag teaming your mom...and they forced you to watch...did they make you call them daddy?

Is that where you disdain for the band come from. I bet it is...am I right?
 

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Wvfakefanforever shoots....clanks it off the front of the rim. Kingcoal rebounds...drives fullcourt and jams home a thunderous dunk.
 

WVUFanForever

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Wvfakefanforever shoots....clanks it off the front of the rim. Kingcoal rebounds...drives fullcourt and jams home a thunderous dunk.
Its cool you guys live in a fantasy world here....the most athletic thing queencoal has ever done was carry the popcorn he purchased from the snack bar to the bleachers