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<h1 style="MARGIN: auto 0in"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><font size="3">Can you believe this bull ****? I say they go 3-9 at best.</font>

College football primer: The best bet in the SEC</span></h1> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span class="smtext2"><font face="Arial" color="#1F497D" size="2">By JULIAN DICKINSON | June 11, 2008</font></span></p>

When it comes to college football, the SEC is the top of the mountain.

With respect to the occasional arguments rolled out in favor of the Pac-10 or the Big 12, there's really no other conference that can match the SEC for talent, toughness and competitive balance from top to bottom.

Hey, it's hard to argue against a league that houses the last two national champions, the reigning Heisman Trophy winner and the Defensive Player of the Year.

But while the big dogs of the SEC, namely the Georgia Bulldogs, Florida Gators and LSU Tigers, dominate the discussion boards and preseason polls, another team in the Deep South is taking big strides toward what looks like it could be not just an improvement over last year, but also a very profitable season for backers.</p>

The Ole Miss Rebels are easy to overlook among the titans of the SEC, but with the arrival of Houston Nutt as the new head coach in Oxford, there is a legitimate reason to believe that this team could get a lot better very soon.</p>

And the best part is, nobody is talking about them because the conference is so crowded with Top 25 teams and National Championship contenders. That means in spite of all the positive changes afoot, bettors probably won't see much difference in the pointspreads between this year and last year.</p>

"The changes in Ole Miss will have an effect on the way oddsmakers set the lines," says BetEd.com oddsmaker Randy Scott, "but mainly setting the over/under game totals. Ole Miss has a chance to score more points, unlike the past three years where they had a hard time scoring twenty points per game."</p>

Of course, Ole Miss is a team coming off a disastrous 2007 season in terms of wins and losses, but one that was actually pretty good for their backers at the sportsbook.

Unsurprisingly after a season like that, the Rebels are listed at +6000 to win the SEC, longest odds of any team in the conference. We're not recommending anybody take that wager, but we are saying that under their new coach and with the addition of some promising new players, they have a great shot to cover a lot of spreads and make some cash for backers.

Even last year, despite the fact that the Rebels went winless in conference play (yeah, they even lost to Vanderbilt), they were a very profitable 6-3 against the spread (ATS) versus SEC opponents.</p>

And they made that money with an offense that was downright pathetic. It featured a tandem of Brent Schaeffer and Seth Adams at quarterback, neither of whom looked like true SEC quality QB and combined for 17 touchdown passes and 20 interceptions last year.</p>

Under Nutt's guiding hand and with the addition of some key newcomers, this year promises to be much more productive - particularly on the offensive side, where Nutt has made his name as an innovative tactician.</p>

Perhaps the best news for suffering Rebels fans is the presence of quarterback Jevan Snead in uniform. If you don't remember the name, Snead was a Parade All-American quarterback out of high school two years ago who went to Texas with high hopes of replacing Vince Young, but narrowly lost the starting job to Colt McCoy. He transferred to Mississippi and after sitting out last year due to the NCAA transfer rule, by all accounts the 21-year-old looks poised and ready to make an impact on this offense and the SEC.</p>

Snead has already been selected SEC Newcomer of the Year by Blue Ribbon College Football Yearbook (for whatever that's worth) and he's got all the tools - a strong arm and good mobility out of the pocket - to become a standout in a league full of top-notch ballplayers.</p>

And Snead should be fairly well protected behind an offensive line anchored by senior left tackle Michael Oher, who is predicted to be one of the first lineman taken in next year's NFL draft.</p>

But this won't be a one-dimensional offense. As is noted on his bio posted on the Mississippi website, under Nutt's guidance, Arkansas led the SEC in rushing five of the last six years and ranked among the nation's top 15 five times.</p>

That's obviously a tradition he intends to bring with him to Oxford - and looking at the roster, believe it or not, the pieces are in place to turn the least productive offense in the SEC into an effective scoring unit right out of the gate.</p>

One of the biggest improvements comes in the form of a five-star running back recruit who was courted by almost every SEC coach, but chose to follow Nutt to Oxford. Enrique Davis broke a verbal commitment with Auburn to go to Ole Miss and at 6-foot-1, 210 pounds, the kid has the size and the blazing speed to become the next Darren McFadden.</p>

And just to keep defenses on their toes, Nutt will have a nice secondary option in the backfield with sophomore tailback Cordera Eason who has thoroughly impressed his new coaches this spring.</p>

Nutt is also intent on throwing in the same kind of wrinkles on offense which he employed at Arkansas to keep defenses off balance. The "Wildcat" formation with McFadden lined up under center was extremely effective and even caught on with a number of NFL teams last year.</p>

Reportedly, Nutt has been using the same formation in Ole Miss spring camp (although it's now referred to as the "Wild Rebel") with speedy wide receiver Dexter McCluster taking the direct snap with the option of running or passing.</p>

"We've got a fast guy that can run and keep people off balance," Nutt told reporters after the spring game. "When you put the ball in his hands, he's dangerous."</p>

All these factors point to a huge improvement on last year's results - and it will probably take the oddsmakers a while to adjust the odds to account for the changes. After all, bettors aren't likely to be jumping on a team coming off a 3-9 season, regardless of their ATS results.</p>

And don't worry about the adjustment period with this team. Nutt is capable of making an immediate improvement when he takes over a program. In his first year at the helm at Arkansas in 1998, the Razorbacks were picked to finish last in the SEC West but they ran to a 9-3 record and an appearance in the Citrus Bowl.</p>

So consider this a gift from Covers.com to you, well in advance of the football season. Keep an eye on Ole Miss pointspreads this year because there's sure to be some great chances to capitalize on this team on the rise.</p>

They play a tough non-conference road game at Wake Forest before kicking off their SEC schedule with a winnable game at home against Vanderbilt. Tough road games will follow at Florida and Alabama but the Rebels are sure to be on the receiving end of big pointspreads in those games.</p>

You won't find too many SEC football fans outside of Oxford hanging around the water cooler gabbing about the prospects of the Ole Miss Rebels, but that's exactly why we think they'll be such a great bet this year.</p>

Well, that and the presence of Houston Nutt in crimson and blue.</p>
 

DieHardDawg

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<h1 style="MARGIN: auto 0in"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><font size="3">Can you believe this bull ****? I say they go 3-9 at best.</font>

College football primer: The best bet in the SEC</span></h1> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span class="smtext2"><font face="Arial" color="#1F497D" size="2">By JULIAN DICKINSON | June 11, 2008</font></span></p>

When it comes to college football, the SEC is the top of the mountain.

With respect to the occasional arguments rolled out in favor of the Pac-10 or the Big 12, there's really no other conference that can match the SEC for talent, toughness and competitive balance from top to bottom.

Hey, it's hard to argue against a league that houses the last two national champions, the reigning Heisman Trophy winner and the Defensive Player of the Year.

But while the big dogs of the SEC, namely the Georgia Bulldogs, Florida Gators and LSU Tigers, dominate the discussion boards and preseason polls, another team in the Deep South is taking big strides toward what looks like it could be not just an improvement over last year, but also a very profitable season for backers.</p>

The Ole Miss Rebels are easy to overlook among the titans of the SEC, but with the arrival of Houston Nutt as the new head coach in Oxford, there is a legitimate reason to believe that this team could get a lot better very soon.</p>

And the best part is, nobody is talking about them because the conference is so crowded with Top 25 teams and National Championship contenders. That means in spite of all the positive changes afoot, bettors probably won't see much difference in the pointspreads between this year and last year.</p>

"The changes in Ole Miss will have an effect on the way oddsmakers set the lines," says BetEd.com oddsmaker Randy Scott, "but mainly setting the over/under game totals. Ole Miss has a chance to score more points, unlike the past three years where they had a hard time scoring twenty points per game."</p>

Of course, Ole Miss is a team coming off a disastrous 2007 season in terms of wins and losses, but one that was actually pretty good for their backers at the sportsbook.

Unsurprisingly after a season like that, the Rebels are listed at +6000 to win the SEC, longest odds of any team in the conference. We're not recommending anybody take that wager, but we are saying that under their new coach and with the addition of some promising new players, they have a great shot to cover a lot of spreads and make some cash for backers.

Even last year, despite the fact that the Rebels went winless in conference play (yeah, they even lost to Vanderbilt), they were a very profitable 6-3 against the spread (ATS) versus SEC opponents.</p>

And they made that money with an offense that was downright pathetic. It featured a tandem of Brent Schaeffer and Seth Adams at quarterback, neither of whom looked like true SEC quality QB and combined for 17 touchdown passes and 20 interceptions last year.</p>

Under Nutt's guiding hand and with the addition of some key newcomers, this year promises to be much more productive - particularly on the offensive side, where Nutt has made his name as an innovative tactician.</p>

Perhaps the best news for suffering Rebels fans is the presence of quarterback Jevan Snead in uniform. If you don't remember the name, Snead was a Parade All-American quarterback out of high school two years ago who went to Texas with high hopes of replacing Vince Young, but narrowly lost the starting job to Colt McCoy. He transferred to Mississippi and after sitting out last year due to the NCAA transfer rule, by all accounts the 21-year-old looks poised and ready to make an impact on this offense and the SEC.</p>

Snead has already been selected SEC Newcomer of the Year by Blue Ribbon College Football Yearbook (for whatever that's worth) and he's got all the tools - a strong arm and good mobility out of the pocket - to become a standout in a league full of top-notch ballplayers.</p>

And Snead should be fairly well protected behind an offensive line anchored by senior left tackle Michael Oher, who is predicted to be one of the first lineman taken in next year's NFL draft.</p>

But this won't be a one-dimensional offense. As is noted on his bio posted on the Mississippi website, under Nutt's guidance, Arkansas led the SEC in rushing five of the last six years and ranked among the nation's top 15 five times.</p>

That's obviously a tradition he intends to bring with him to Oxford - and looking at the roster, believe it or not, the pieces are in place to turn the least productive offense in the SEC into an effective scoring unit right out of the gate.</p>

One of the biggest improvements comes in the form of a five-star running back recruit who was courted by almost every SEC coach, but chose to follow Nutt to Oxford. Enrique Davis broke a verbal commitment with Auburn to go to Ole Miss and at 6-foot-1, 210 pounds, the kid has the size and the blazing speed to become the next Darren McFadden.</p>

And just to keep defenses on their toes, Nutt will have a nice secondary option in the backfield with sophomore tailback Cordera Eason who has thoroughly impressed his new coaches this spring.</p>

Nutt is also intent on throwing in the same kind of wrinkles on offense which he employed at Arkansas to keep defenses off balance. The "Wildcat" formation with McFadden lined up under center was extremely effective and even caught on with a number of NFL teams last year.</p>

Reportedly, Nutt has been using the same formation in Ole Miss spring camp (although it's now referred to as the "Wild Rebel") with speedy wide receiver Dexter McCluster taking the direct snap with the option of running or passing.</p>

"We've got a fast guy that can run and keep people off balance," Nutt told reporters after the spring game. "When you put the ball in his hands, he's dangerous."</p>

All these factors point to a huge improvement on last year's results - and it will probably take the oddsmakers a while to adjust the odds to account for the changes. After all, bettors aren't likely to be jumping on a team coming off a 3-9 season, regardless of their ATS results.</p>

And don't worry about the adjustment period with this team. Nutt is capable of making an immediate improvement when he takes over a program. In his first year at the helm at Arkansas in 1998, the Razorbacks were picked to finish last in the SEC West but they ran to a 9-3 record and an appearance in the Citrus Bowl.</p>

So consider this a gift from Covers.com to you, well in advance of the football season. Keep an eye on Ole Miss pointspreads this year because there's sure to be some great chances to capitalize on this team on the rise.</p>

They play a tough non-conference road game at Wake Forest before kicking off their SEC schedule with a winnable game at home against Vanderbilt. Tough road games will follow at Florida and Alabama but the Rebels are sure to be on the receiving end of big pointspreads in those games.</p>

You won't find too many SEC football fans outside of Oxford hanging around the water cooler gabbing about the prospects of the Ole Miss Rebels, but that's exactly why we think they'll be such a great bet this year.</p>

Well, that and the presence of Houston Nutt in crimson and blue.</p>
 

DieHardDawg

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<h1 style="MARGIN: auto 0in"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><font size="3">Can you believe this bull ****? I say they go 3-9 at best.</font>

College football primer: The best bet in the SEC</span></h1> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span class="smtext2"><font face="Arial" color="#1F497D" size="2">By JULIAN DICKINSON | June 11, 2008</font></span></p>

When it comes to college football, the SEC is the top of the mountain.

With respect to the occasional arguments rolled out in favor of the Pac-10 or the Big 12, there's really no other conference that can match the SEC for talent, toughness and competitive balance from top to bottom.

Hey, it's hard to argue against a league that houses the last two national champions, the reigning Heisman Trophy winner and the Defensive Player of the Year.

But while the big dogs of the SEC, namely the Georgia Bulldogs, Florida Gators and LSU Tigers, dominate the discussion boards and preseason polls, another team in the Deep South is taking big strides toward what looks like it could be not just an improvement over last year, but also a very profitable season for backers.</p>

The Ole Miss Rebels are easy to overlook among the titans of the SEC, but with the arrival of Houston Nutt as the new head coach in Oxford, there is a legitimate reason to believe that this team could get a lot better very soon.</p>

And the best part is, nobody is talking about them because the conference is so crowded with Top 25 teams and National Championship contenders. That means in spite of all the positive changes afoot, bettors probably won't see much difference in the pointspreads between this year and last year.</p>

"The changes in Ole Miss will have an effect on the way oddsmakers set the lines," says BetEd.com oddsmaker Randy Scott, "but mainly setting the over/under game totals. Ole Miss has a chance to score more points, unlike the past three years where they had a hard time scoring twenty points per game."</p>

Of course, Ole Miss is a team coming off a disastrous 2007 season in terms of wins and losses, but one that was actually pretty good for their backers at the sportsbook.

Unsurprisingly after a season like that, the Rebels are listed at +6000 to win the SEC, longest odds of any team in the conference. We're not recommending anybody take that wager, but we are saying that under their new coach and with the addition of some promising new players, they have a great shot to cover a lot of spreads and make some cash for backers.

Even last year, despite the fact that the Rebels went winless in conference play (yeah, they even lost to Vanderbilt), they were a very profitable 6-3 against the spread (ATS) versus SEC opponents.</p>

And they made that money with an offense that was downright pathetic. It featured a tandem of Brent Schaeffer and Seth Adams at quarterback, neither of whom looked like true SEC quality QB and combined for 17 touchdown passes and 20 interceptions last year.</p>

Under Nutt's guiding hand and with the addition of some key newcomers, this year promises to be much more productive - particularly on the offensive side, where Nutt has made his name as an innovative tactician.</p>

Perhaps the best news for suffering Rebels fans is the presence of quarterback Jevan Snead in uniform. If you don't remember the name, Snead was a Parade All-American quarterback out of high school two years ago who went to Texas with high hopes of replacing Vince Young, but narrowly lost the starting job to Colt McCoy. He transferred to Mississippi and after sitting out last year due to the NCAA transfer rule, by all accounts the 21-year-old looks poised and ready to make an impact on this offense and the SEC.</p>

Snead has already been selected SEC Newcomer of the Year by Blue Ribbon College Football Yearbook (for whatever that's worth) and he's got all the tools - a strong arm and good mobility out of the pocket - to become a standout in a league full of top-notch ballplayers.</p>

And Snead should be fairly well protected behind an offensive line anchored by senior left tackle Michael Oher, who is predicted to be one of the first lineman taken in next year's NFL draft.</p>

But this won't be a one-dimensional offense. As is noted on his bio posted on the Mississippi website, under Nutt's guidance, Arkansas led the SEC in rushing five of the last six years and ranked among the nation's top 15 five times.</p>

That's obviously a tradition he intends to bring with him to Oxford - and looking at the roster, believe it or not, the pieces are in place to turn the least productive offense in the SEC into an effective scoring unit right out of the gate.</p>

One of the biggest improvements comes in the form of a five-star running back recruit who was courted by almost every SEC coach, but chose to follow Nutt to Oxford. Enrique Davis broke a verbal commitment with Auburn to go to Ole Miss and at 6-foot-1, 210 pounds, the kid has the size and the blazing speed to become the next Darren McFadden.</p>

And just to keep defenses on their toes, Nutt will have a nice secondary option in the backfield with sophomore tailback Cordera Eason who has thoroughly impressed his new coaches this spring.</p>

Nutt is also intent on throwing in the same kind of wrinkles on offense which he employed at Arkansas to keep defenses off balance. The "Wildcat" formation with McFadden lined up under center was extremely effective and even caught on with a number of NFL teams last year.</p>

Reportedly, Nutt has been using the same formation in Ole Miss spring camp (although it's now referred to as the "Wild Rebel") with speedy wide receiver Dexter McCluster taking the direct snap with the option of running or passing.</p>

"We've got a fast guy that can run and keep people off balance," Nutt told reporters after the spring game. "When you put the ball in his hands, he's dangerous."</p>

All these factors point to a huge improvement on last year's results - and it will probably take the oddsmakers a while to adjust the odds to account for the changes. After all, bettors aren't likely to be jumping on a team coming off a 3-9 season, regardless of their ATS results.</p>

And don't worry about the adjustment period with this team. Nutt is capable of making an immediate improvement when he takes over a program. In his first year at the helm at Arkansas in 1998, the Razorbacks were picked to finish last in the SEC West but they ran to a 9-3 record and an appearance in the Citrus Bowl.</p>

So consider this a gift from Covers.com to you, well in advance of the football season. Keep an eye on Ole Miss pointspreads this year because there's sure to be some great chances to capitalize on this team on the rise.</p>

They play a tough non-conference road game at Wake Forest before kicking off their SEC schedule with a winnable game at home against Vanderbilt. Tough road games will follow at Florida and Alabama but the Rebels are sure to be on the receiving end of big pointspreads in those games.</p>

You won't find too many SEC football fans outside of Oxford hanging around the water cooler gabbing about the prospects of the Ole Miss Rebels, but that's exactly why we think they'll be such a great bet this year.</p>

Well, that and the presence of Houston Nutt in crimson and blue.</p>
 

chuckja

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Ole miss....does anyone even know where that is.....i'm born and bred in starkville and i have no interest in going to ole miss....as long as mugshots and davis wade are still intact i'll survive with the big DAWGS!
 

hotdogface9

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It's the "based on potential" argument. They've got a handful of guys that were pretty highly touted in high school that have yet to produce zippo at Ole Miss. The new angle is that now they have a 'real' college coach to coach em up. I'll believe it when I see it.
 

8dog

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memphis, samford, vandy and La Monroe, then Nutt needs to be let go.
 

diehard4dawgs

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Looking at the schedule, I see Ole Miss winning between 5 and 7.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> They will be much improved from last year.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> I would hesitate to get excited about the rebs early though, because the schedule sets up such that they could start 4-0 and win one game the rest of the year.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></span></p>
 

chuckja

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I really believe Coach Croom set the standard of coaching in the SEC last year....he's given our program a 180 turn around...i'm giving him a couple of more years and he'll be mentioned w/ spurrier, saban, etc....Ole Miss gets Houston Nutt and now they have a "real" coach...i've got news for ole miss, they don't have croom....
 

AzzurriDawg4

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does make them sound a lot scarier than they really are. I dont know much about Enrique Davis, but I sure didnt know they were comparing him to D-Mac. That guy and McCluster in the backfield could be effective for sure. I am going to take a wait and see with them and Snead though. The thing that worries me most about Ole Miss is their talent on the lines. While we are solid in the trenches...they have difference makers in Oher and Hardy. One thing is for sure - we will know exactly what they are all about come November.

Are we just going to ignore the above post re: Mugshots and Davis Wade? I cant handle that.
 

DieHardDawg

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They think this guy is good? Compared to McFadden? What a joke, he couldn't carry Dixon's jock strap. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWLgy-nOEh4">

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWLgy-nOEh4</a>
 

patdog

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I think y'all will win 5 or 6 games this fall. You're pretty good on the OL and DL and improved at QB, and while I think your WRs are overrated and RB is a huge question mark, you should have a fairly competitive team this fall.
 

diehard4dawgs

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Saying that they have no chance against Wake is comparable to saying that we have no chance against Georgia Tech.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> Georgia Tech will be stronger than Wake and we for sure have a shot to be Tech.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You may need to remove your maroon glasses for a few minutes.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></span></p>
 

8dog

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they have a potential first round draft pick that is the 3rd or 4th best offensive lineman on the team.
 

saltybulldog

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Like someone else pointed out I see them between 5 and 7 wins. They appear to have good lines on both sides of the ball and that is enough to get them 5 wins. We got to 8 wins last year with the same unproved QB play. OM has better WRs than us and if Snead is Carroll good they should win 6.
 

chuckja

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i like that assumption...i know i've made some ridiculous remarks today but its mainly in fun...i think we're looking at least 7 wins and ole miss will win 5....that's plain and simple...and i want to thank dieharddawg for posting that about enrique davis....he's clearly not SEC potential
 

DieHardDawg

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How dare you put them on our level by saying its like saying we have no chance against GT? We are going to beat the **** out of Georgia Tech.

They are ole miss, we are STATE. We've always been better than them, always will be.

MSU wins 10, Ole Piss wins 3
 

DieHardDawg

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If they beat Wake, you will be the proud owner of a game bell that was once wrung by Jackie.

Sounds like you are cheering for them anyway.
 

diehard4dawgs

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This must be a joke.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> I apologize to everyone for replying to this dubmass.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></span></p>
 

HammerOfTheDogs

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Both had pretty talented players. Both had ****** head coaches, who were fired and replaced with experienced, talented coaches with questionable things in their past. I see the Rebs winning 7-8 this year.
 

DieHardDawg

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The only joke is some of you guys thinking ole piss (the same team that pulled the 0fer last year) is going to pile up wins this season. Comparing us to them is offensive to me, sorry if you can't understand that.
 

DawgDays12

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i'm on dieharddawg's side on this one....ole miss went 0-8 last year....they're overrated, it's not that hard to see...they have a good line...we know nothing about snead or davis....second of all who's name is optimus prime? get a life
 

DerHntr

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when you make statements like this?

We've always been better than them, always will be.
If they beat Wake, you will be the proud owner of a game bell that was once wrung by Jackie
and this not once but twice
you are delusional. being the sunshine police on this board will get you nowhere real fast. go find this fella...i hear he has a fine bulldog site for you to post on....

 

VegasDawg13

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We didn't need you joining in.

The argument that Ole Miss went 0-8 last year, so they can't possibly be decent this year is retarded. Teams get better, teams get worse. It wouldn't be very fun if they didn't.
 

DieHardDawg

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Teams that go 3-9 and pull an 0fer in their conference beat teams that won bowl games the previous year all the time.

My apologies.
 

RebelBruiser

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saltybulldog said:
Like someone else pointed out I see them between 5 and 7 wins. They appear to have good lines on both sides of the ball and that is enough to get them 5 wins.
We got to 8 wins last year with the same unproved QB play. OM has better WRs than us and if Snead is Carroll good they should win 6.

</p>

Exactly. This article is from a betting site. They are saying that we should be a good bet this year. They showed numbers that said we were a good bet last year ATS, meaning the gamblers undervalued us.

Considering we're coming off 0-8, we're a team in Mississippi, we upgraded our coach, and we have some talented players, then I agree with this guy. We should be a good bet again this year. We'll probably fly under the radar with the gamblers again this year for most of the year, because they'll take the exact stance that DieHardDawg or whatever takes. They'll undervalue us, meaning that the lines will be slanted toward our opponents, leaving us the opportunity to be a good ATS bet again this year.

I don't think anyone would argue that our offense won't be improved, and I don't think anyone would argue that our defense won't be improved either. However, I don't think the gamblers will see us as an improved team early in the season.
 

RebelBruiser

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DieHardDawg said:
Teams that go 3-9 and pull an 0fer in their conference beat teams that won bowl games the previous year all the time.

My apologies.

</p>

South Carolina followed an 0-11 season with a 7-4 season.

As for your assertion that we couldn't beat teams that went to bowl games, we lost 3 games to bowl teams last year by 12 points combined, and we technically beat a bowl team, if you can call Memphis a bowl team for going to the New Orleans Bowl. It's not like we were out getting routed every time we took the field. By the way, didn't your team go from 3-9 (1-7) to 8-5 (4-4) in one off-season?
 

Wifesdawg

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do have some talent. I gotta say I'm alittle worried. I had the opportunity to meet some of their players and their confidence is sky high.
Those guys are hungry for wins like we were last year. After meeting some of their players and seeing some of their 7 on 7 passing drills
6 wins is not out of the question. Even 7 wins is not. I'm only saying this because I was up there and saw Snead first hand and he has a very
strong arm and can move in the pocket. I honestly thought I was gonna get sick just watching him I can't believe
he went to Oxford, Ms to play football. Our northern pains now have a quarterback.
Flame all you want but I was there and saw it with my own 42 year old eyes.
 

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Ok, I understand getting excited about a new coach. But let's be realistic (something in short supply in oxford). If you read almost every rag out so far, they have Arkansas annd Ole Miss fighting it out for last place. Let's stop and think that thtrough. That means your new all world coach, left a program a few months ago in as bad or worse shape than the program you fired your former coach over. Hello????? Is this making any sense? Your program is better than program your new coach just came from......So I don't understand the hype, i really don't.
 
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DieHardDawg said:
Teams that go 3-9 and pull an 0fer in their conference beat teams that won bowl games the previous year all the time.

My apologies.

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Then please explain how State went 3-9 and ended up winning 8 games last year. This thread has to be a joke. It has to be.
 
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is that this is the same coach that had Matt Jones, Felix Jones/Darren McFadden, etc. and never won a championship.

I can't wait to see what "talent" he wastes at Mississippi.
 
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