UofLol is 2-17-1 against SEC teams

NavyCat88

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To my recollection, they've beaten Alabama and Florida in pretty good bowl games (Fiesta and Sugar).
 
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akaukswoosh

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they are somehow even more putrid against the SEC than we are.

Now I feel better.:grimace:
 

CHAMPCAT11

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To my recollection, they've beaten Alabama and Florida in pretty good bowl games (Fiesta and Sugar).

Alabama was terrible the year they lost to UL and Florida was starting their implosion with Muschamp. We beat Alabama when Tim Couch was the QB...... but you win on the Florida comment. We can't beat them.
 

Cats_2010

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A uofl friend of mine tonight pointed out that this years UofL SR class had more SEC wins than uk's SR class, 5-4. Now that's depressing.
 

WildcatofNati

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A uofl friend of mine tonight pointed out that this years UofL SR class had more SEC wins than uk's SR class, 5-4. Now that's depressing.
The bigger problem is that four of them happen to be against us. Against the real SEC, Louisville would be lunch. Every single year.
 

HiStepper

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Alabama was terrible the year they lost to UL and Florida was starting their implosion with Muschamp. We beat Alabama when Tim Couch was the QB...... but you win on the Florida comment. We can't beat them.
The ALA team Louisville beat finished 7-5 while the ALA team Couch and CO beat finished 4-7. Your '97 victory was against the actual terrible ALA team.
 
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CHAMPCAT11

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The ALA team Louisville beat finished 7-5 while the ALA team Couch and CO beat finished 4-7. Your '97 victory was against the actual terrible ALA team.

That 7-5 team wasn't any good. Look at your team this year. Aren't you 7-5 ? And you're team is bad. Beat us but who doesn't
 
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buckkiller

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Eeeewwwww boy this thread really gives me goose bumps and makes me feel better about our football team! I think i got a warm fuzzy feeling all over! SMMFH!!
 

BBBLazing

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This thread makes me embarrassed to be a UK fan. Until we can beat UL, we can't make fun of UL. Those that think different are fans that remind me of our receivers that catch 1 out of 6 passes and dance when they catch it. Act like you've been there. Worrying about UL's team shows where we are. We suck. Quit worrying about them. Them sucking doesn't make us not suck. Let's beat EKU in regulation. Let's maybe beat Western. Then we can complain about UL. You guys embarrass me as a fan.
 

bthaunert

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We have become Louisville's "Vandy" in an SEC way. They are 14-8 against us since the formation of the SEC Conference. So, they are 16-25-1. I would die for that conference record over a 5 year period.
 

STUCKNBIG10

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Makes our middling record against them all the more appalling. As it stands now, we'd finish 6th or 7th in the east every year and they would finish 5th or 6th.
 

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This thread makes me embarrassed to be a UK fan. Until we can beat UL, we can't make fun of UL. Those that think different are fans that remind me of our receivers that catch 1 out of 6 passes and dance when they catch it. Act like you've been there. Worrying about UL's team shows where we are. We suck. Quit worrying about them. Them sucking doesn't make us not suck. Let's beat EKU in regulation. Let's maybe beat Western. Then we can complain about UL. You guys embarrass me as a fan.
Speaking as a Cardinal fan to this particular OP/topic, I say "good post" BBB. Indeed, UofL sucking against SEC opponents does not make UK's performance look any better. Rivalries are emotional roller coasters for fans but the big picture is what really counts. And that means building and taking care of your own program.

I was actually surprised to see that UofL had actually played 20 games against SEC teams other than UK (I'll trust the OP's numbers). I went to school there (mid 60s) and been a season ticket holder since moving back to town (1970). The Cards have just never had many opportunities to play SEC teams. I recall playing AL a couple of times back in the Vince Gibson days (late 70s) and a tie with Vandy when Lee Corso was here (early 70s). I went to the Vandy game in Nashville and 1 of the 2 games in Tuscaloosa.

In what I call the "modern era" of UofL football (beginning with the Schnellenberger hire in 1985) the Cards have gone 2-5 against traditional SEC opponents beating AL and FL each once but losing 3 to UT ('87, '91, '93) and once each to GA last year and AU this year. The Cards also lost 3 in a row to aTm at a time when aTm dominated the old Southwest Conference (32-3-1 with 2 conference championships those years) and I suppose those games are in the OP's count. All of these game except the FL, GA and AU games were in the Schnellenberger tenure.

I'm not trying at all to defend UofL's record against SEC teams; it is what it is (i.e., bad). I'm just trying to add a bit more context to the discussion. The ACC membership will likely increase the opportunities to play SEC teams in future bowl games.

Peace
 

yoshukai

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As long as they are owning us we should say nothing . We shouldn't be like their basketball fans .
 

Marleydogg

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Wildcard,

I didn't include the Texas A&M games as they were not in the SEC at the time.
 

WildCard

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Wildcard,

I didn't include the Texas A&M games as they were not in the SEC at the time.
Thanks for that clarification. That makes UofL vs. SEC opponent even more of a rarity, just 7 games over the past 31 seasons, 3 of those in bowls or pre-season "specials".

Peace
 

Birdseat

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Thanks for that clarification. That makes UofL vs. SEC opponent even more of a rarity, just 7 games over the past 31 seasons, 3 of those in bowls or pre-season "specials".

Peace
And that becomes a clinker. When Louisville plays the sec it is usually against uk or a winning program (bowl game) or the rare season kickoff game. If Louisville played the whole gammit (good and bad)the record would certainly be different.
 

Marleydogg

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No, I think if ul played the sec every year, they would still be around a 10 percent winning percentage. (Albeit most of their wins would be against us, and vandy.)
 

TopCatCal

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As I recall, the Alabama team they beat, nearly half of the Alabama players voted not to accept a bowl bid when their regular season ended. In other words that Alabama team was about as inspired to play UL as our basketball team was against Robert Morris in the 2013 NIT.
 

BBBLazing

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As I recall, the Alabama team they beat, nearly half of the Alabama players voted not to accept a bowl bid when their regular season ended. In other words that Alabama team was about as inspired to play UL as our basketball team was against Robert Morris in the 2013 NIT.
Not sure I buy that a 7-4 team ranked in the top 25 had 1/2 of its team vote to not go to a bowl. As I've said before, UL sucking doesn't make us not suck. Now the Alabama team we beat in 97 and stormed the field, that team sucked.
 

yoshukai

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Not sure I buy that a 7-4 team ranked in the top 25 had 1/2 of its team vote to not go to a bowl. As I've said before, UL sucking doesn't make us not suck. Now the Alabama team we beat in 97 and stormed the field, that team sucked.
It had nothing to do with the record . There were teams a lot more deserving than UL or AL that turned down the Fiesta Bowl that year because of Arizonas failure to recognize Martin Luther King Day . A good portion of Alabamas team voted to turn down THAT bowl and go to a lesser one . Needless to say their heart wasn't in it . And yeah we suck . You put UL in the SEC and they would suck just as bad . Most kids want to play for winners , UL would not be a winning program in the SEC . Their recruiting would suffer .
 

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Before the 1991 game, several major universities declined invitations due to the State of Arizona's decision at that time not to adopt the Martin Luther King Holiday.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiesta_Bowl

The Fiesta Bowl, tainted by the controversy over Arizona voters' rejection of a state holiday in honor of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., was played without incident today after a local civil rights group staged a protest against the game.

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/02/sports/tributes-and-a-louisville-victory.html
 

WildcatofNati

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This thread makes me embarrassed to be a UK fan. Until we can beat UL, we can't make fun of UL. Those that think different are fans that remind me of our receivers that catch 1 out of 6 passes and dance when they catch it. Act like you've been there. Worrying about UL's team shows where we are. We suck. Quit worrying about them. Them sucking doesn't make us not suck. Let's beat EKU in regulation. Let's maybe beat Western. Then we can complain about UL. You guys embarrass me as a fan.
Your defamatory statement against Boom makes me ashamed to be a UK fan. If only you would defend UK players with the same vehemence that you defend UofLoL. Hell, if you would just refrain from attacking them, I would be happy.
 

BBBLazing

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It had nothing to do with the record . There were teams a lot more deserving than UL or AL that turned down the Fiesta Bowl that year because of Arizonas failure to recognize Martin Luther King Day . A good portion of Alabamas team voted to turn down THAT bowl and go to a lesser one . Needless to say their heart wasn't in it . And yeah we suck . You put UL in the SEC and they would suck just as bad . Most kids want to play for winners , UL would not be a winning program in the SEC . Their recruiting would suffer .
how does that help us? They've beat us 5 years in a row. So they would suck in the SEC too. Why does that make any UK fan feel good?
 

BBBLazing

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Your defamatory statement against Boom makes me ashamed to be a UK fan. If only you would defend UK players with the same vehemence that you defend UofLoL. Hell, if you would just refrain from attacking them, I would be happy.
Defamatory? Truth is an absolute defense. I defend UK players that act like they want to be UK players. I have never defended UL. I've criticized our fans for making fun of UL for sucking in areas we suck more. Them sucking does not help us. Beat them and then we can talk.
 

yoshukai

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how does that help us? They've beat us 5 years in a row. So they would suck in the SEC too. Why does that make any UK fan feel good?
Doesn't help us one bit . I honestly thought maybe you didn't know the circumstances . Doesn't make me feel good either . I just think sometimes UL fans don't really realize how hard it is to build a program in the SEC . Playing an SEC team every week definitely takes a toll a team , plus it's harder to recruit when you're not really competitive in your league . Just my opinion . Honestly the only reason I responded is because I thought maybe you were too young to know the circumstances of that Fiesta bowl . Peace Brother .