"Urban Meyer breaks down one of the biggest plays in @RFootball's win at Virginia Tech on the latest 𝘜𝘳𝘣𝘒𝘯 𝘈𝘯𝘒𝘭𝘺𝘴π˜ͺ𝘴"

kupuna133

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What jumps off the screen is the increased fundamental ability of the players from last year to this. To a man they knew their assignment and let the play naturally develop. Last year looked like a Chinese fire drill compared to this. Players out of position, rushing the development of play. throwing blindly and falling away.
 

ashokan

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Fixed. Don't tell @ashokan that Greg is running an offense with creative plays!!!

Urban was really talking execution - specifically OL - more than play design.

The part about "trusting" Kirk was a little saccharin since the play wasn't the problem vs Michigan - it was the weak receiving typical of last year - the most improved position this year so no need for Greg to panic
 
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Plum Street

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I like the focus on Asamoah's contribution on that play. Too often the O-linemen only get noticed when they get beat by a pass rusher or flagged for a penalty.
Of course, that was also a strong effort by Ian. πŸ˜€
Exactly
This was a great analysis
 
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Urban was really talking execution - specifically OL - more than play design.

The part about "trusting" Kirk was a little saccharin since the play wasn't the problem vs Michigan - it was the weak receiving typical of last year - the most improved position this year so no need for Greg to panic
Michigan knew the play before it happened. It doesn't matter how well you run the play, if the other team knows it, they have as much chance to beat you to the spot to disrupt it. It was sign stealing.
 

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Urban was really talking execution - specifically OL - more than play design.

The part about "trusting" Kirk was a little saccharin since the play wasn't the problem vs Michigan - it was the weak receiving typical of last year - the most improved position this year so no need for Greg to panic

What struck me was GW had turned his back to the receiver and turned and gunned the pass to the space his target occupied.

AK looked so much more calm and collected. Eyes downfield and able to see the play as it unfolded.
 

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Michigan knew the play before it happened. It doesn't matter how well you run the play, if the other team knows it, they have as much chance to beat you to the spot to disrupt it. It was sign stealing.
Cheaters gonna cheat. I'm telling you - Michigan is still crazy talented, but they wouldn't have lost to the Longhorns the way they did had Connor still been shipping kids with cameras to Austin.
 

RU-Kidding

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He shouldn't have to ask at this point.
Schiano should be leading charge on that.
I would miss Flaherty more than KC and its not even close
Flaherty got a raise and has been signed through 2025. He’s good to go for another season.
 

ashokan

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Michigan knew the play before it happened. It doesn't matter how well you run the play, if the other team knows it, they have as much chance to beat you to the spot to disrupt it. It was sign stealing.

We both know Travis Hunter would have caught (and kept) that ball.
Sanu would have done the same.
They win contested catches.

Fact is RU's 2023 receivers were awful at anything resembling a contested ball.
In that part of the field you have to expect contact and strip attempts.
But RU receivers were usually like pool noodles (Washington made a few good plays)

The receiver had the ball hit him in upper body and should have caught it but Michigan DB wanted the ball more. It was half INT and half strip. For whatever reason RU WR had his hand on his own facemask screening him - turkey time lol.

"Wimsatt said he saw his receiver open β€œbut the defender made a great play on the ball, and it turned into six (points). It was a big change in the game...He and Rutgers head coach Greg Schiano were disappointed Sainristil wasn’t tackled before he reached the end zone, though Schiano knew the fifth-year defensive back was a key piece of Michigan’s No. 1-ranked defense."









 
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We both know Travis Hunter would have caught (and kept) that ball.
Sanu would have done the same.
They win contested catches.

Fact is RU's 2023 receivers were awful at anything resembling a contested ball.
In that part of the field you have to expect contact and strip attempts.
But RU receivers were usually like pool noodles (Washington made a few good plays)

The receiver had the ball hit him in upper body and should have caught it but Michigan DB wanted the ball more. It was half INT and half strip. For whatever reason RU WR had his hand on his own facemask screening him - turkey time lol.

"Wimsatt said he saw his receiver open β€œbut the defender made a great play on the ball, and it turned into six (points). It was a big change in the game...He and Rutgers head coach Greg Schiano were disappointed Sainristil wasn’t tackled before he reached the end zone, though Schiano knew the fifth-year defensive back was a key piece of Michigan’s No. 1-ranked defense."









You just named two exceptional players. Most receivers don't have the ability to make contested catches most of the time.

The 2023 RU receivers were subpar, and the QB was too. Even if you change one of the participants on offense in that play, it will likely fail because UM knew the play was coming.

It appears to hit the receiver in the chest, but it was really a 50/50 at best for the receiver. Like I said, '23 receivers for RU just weren't capable of winning 50/50 ball most times.

I see you didn't mention that fact UM knew the play was coming. Instead, you changed the goal line by talking about the quality of receivers Rutgers lacks.
 
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mildone_rivals

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Michigan knew the play before it happened. It doesn't matter how well you run the play, if the other team knows it, they have as much chance to beat you to the spot to disrupt it. It was sign stealing.
I don't factually know if UM knew what play was being called or not. But it sure as **** looked a whole lot like they knew what play was being called.
 

ashokan

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You just named two exceptional players. Most receivers don't have the ability to make contested catches most of the time.

The 2023 RU receivers were subpar, and the QB was too. Even if you change one of the participants on offense in that play, it will likely fail because UM knew the play was coming.

It appears to hit the receiver in the chest, but it was really a 50/50 at best for the receiver. Like I said, '23 receivers for RU just weren't capable of winning 50/50 ball most times.

I see you didn't mention that fact UM knew the play was coming. Instead, you changed the goal line by talking about the quality of receivers Rutgers lacks.

Rutgers passing playbook was about 1.5 pages long.
We ALL knew what's coming in 23 lol.
Long passes were shelved (GS said) because OL couldn't block for them.
Corners, sidelines, weak bubble screens, middle zone seams, 2 yard dumps to the flats.
All on repeat - opponent DCs and DBs weren't exactly sleepless at nights the week of RU.

For me the play was a killer because of weak player talent
RU's 2023 receivers would have been back-ups on RU's BE teams
They just weren't B1G WRs - especially in the eastern conference.

Thompson made a Superman play leaping center at Cincy in 06.
He knew what was coming and did something spectacular.
I didn't see the Michigan INT as spectacular.
DB made a nice B1G play on a receiver not up to the task and QB often blamed.
Aaron Rodgers makes passes like that
 

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Didn’t notice in real time at the game but I’ve seen pass interference called for blocks like Dremel made to get Strong open. I think at critical points (all sports) refs swallow their whistles and it was very smart to call this play at such a time. Takes iron balls to throw a flag there and KC understood.
 
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Rutgers Chris

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I don't factually know if UM knew what play was being called or not. But it sure as **** looked a whole lot like they knew what play was being called.
Anecdotal at best, but this play was featured on the Netflix sign stealing documentary. One would think that Stallions gave them some good examples of plays he helped blow up.
 

RU#1fan

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Cheaters gonna cheat. I'm telling you - Michigan is still crazy talented, but they wouldn't have lost to the Longhorns the way they did had Connor still been shipping kids with cameras to Austin.
Lot of scumbags in this country for sure.
 

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Would have been cool if Urban took a shot at That Team Up North as maybe KNEW what play was coming.. wink-wink.. BTW.. I called for a screen as they came out onto the field there. Family looked at me like Nostradamus... it ain't brain surgery.. VTech sold out against the run the whole game. And we have a QB who can deliver that pass quickly with a shorter throwing motion.
 
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ashokan

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Anecdotal at best, but this play was featured on the Netflix sign stealing documentary. One would think that Stallions gave them some good examples of plays he helped blow up.

The DB was a WR for years before moving to defense (he plays for Washington now).
A DB at Michigan knew what to expect from RU because RU was very predictable.
That's not new either - I recall PSU DB coach telling his players they would get 4 INTs and they got 5.

I would still like to know why RU WR on Michigan play had his facemask in his hand as ball is arriving. Michigan players wore yellow gloves so the white glove is WRs. There is another Michigan player behind receiver so maybe his helmet was screwed-up. I've noticed many times that RU players often seem to have ill fitting helmets

 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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Would have been cool if Urban took a shot at That Team Up North as maybe KNEW what play was coming.. wink-wink.. BTW.. I called for a screen as they came out onto the field there. Family looked at me like Nostradamus... it ain't brain surgery.. VTech sold out against the run the whole game. And we have a QB who can deliver that pass quickly with a shorter throwing motion.
And is less likely (so far) to throw it to the other team.