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I know its early yet, but we are 4 weeks away from seeding Saturday, so what the hell. I'm going to put the frontrunners into tiers, how I see their chances in representing their division in the State Championship. I am also putting them in order of strength. Bare in mind this is all just my opinion. If I didn't include a team, I don't think they are really in the running.

West
Tier 1

Eastern Randolph
Mount Airy
Thomasville

Tier 2

Robbinsville
Mitchell
Andrews
Murphy
Mountain Heritage
Thomas Jefferson

East
Tier 1

Tarboro
North Moore

Tier 2

Rosewood
Northside
Southside
Northampton

My prediction

Tarboro 35
Mount Airy 28
 
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I agree in all except for the outcome of your prediction. Mount Airy is the team to beat this year in 1a IMO.
 
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Unless Andrews has had a big drop-off. I would say they have to be in that top tier of the West. They should have beaten Elkin last year and frankly were probably about as good as Murphy they were just young. Although I don't pay attention to much of what they're doing this year I thought they were doing pretty well and were at the top of that conference.
 
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Really haven’t studied this, but Thomasville could be at a slight disadvantage with only nine games. Barring an upset, they should be 8-1. Not sure how that will play out if other teams are 9-1 with a higher winning percentage.
 
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Mitchell county mountie said:
I know its early yet, but we are 4 weeks away from seeding Saturday, so what the hell. I'm going to put the frontrunners into tiers, how I see their chances in representing their division in the State Championship. I am also putting them in order of strength. Bare in mind this is all just my opinion. If I didn't include a team, I don't think they are really in the running.

West
Tier 1

Eastern Randolph
Mount Airy
Thomasville

Tier 2

Robbinsville
Mitchell
Andrews
Murphy
Mountain Heritage
Thomas Jefferson

East
Tier 1

Tarboro
North Moore

Tier 2

Rosewood
Northside
Southside
Northampton

My prediction

Tarboro 35
Mount Airy 28
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I hope you’re right
 
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roughtrader4444 said:
Unless Andrews has had a big drop-off. I would say they have to be in that top tier of the West. They should have beaten Elkin last year and frankly were probably about as good as Murphy they were just young. Although I don't pay attention to much of what they're doing this year I thought they were doing pretty well and were at the top of that conference.
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Agreed. The only reason Elkin won that game was due to bad play calling/clock management by Andrews. They wasted too much time and they called dumb plays their last 2 chances. Elkin was ripe for a choke but Andrews gave them a bone.

This year's team has learned from that so far and I hope they keep it up. Been very fun to watch.
 
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The thing is, Murphy, Robbinsville, Andrews and Swain all possibly making the playoffs this year will make the west an absolute gauntlet. I know Mt. Airy is the favorite but you don’t ever count a SMC team out. I’ll take my chances with Robbinsville. They haven’t played a cupcake at all this year and have been within a score of both losses. It’ll come down to QB play with them but if our QB can get more comfortable with the ball in his hand, I’ll take Robbinsville over anybody in the West.
 
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WickedStix9 said:
The thing is, Murphy, Robbinsville, Andrews and Swain all possibly making the playoffs this year will make the west an absolute gauntlet. I know Mt. Airy is the favorite but you don’t ever count a SMC team out. I’ll take my chances with Robbinsville. They haven’t played a cupcake at all this year and have been within a score of both losses. It’ll come down to QB play with them but if our QB can get more comfortable with the ball in his hand, I’ll take Robbinsville over anybody in the West.
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My issue with Robbinsville not being a top tier team is their fumbling problems this season. I know they have the ponies, and can play with anyone on any given night, but 5+ fumbles in games have led to losses. On the same token, I feel that Mitchell can play with anyone, anywhere, but this group has a tendency to sleepwalk at times, even in a close game, and it's holding them back from the upper echelon also.
 
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Mitchell county mountie said:
My issue with Robbinsville not being a top tier team is their fumbling problems this season. I know they have the ponies, and can play with anyone on any given night, but 5+ fumbles in games have led to losses. On the same token, I feel that Mitchell can play with anyone, anywhere, but this group has a tendency to sleepwalk at times, even in a close game, and it's holding them back from the upper echelon also.
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That’s kind of the issue I was talking about with the qb…. Although this last game was fumbles by other players, the Brevard game we had 8-10 snap fumbles which really cost us. Just dead plays more or less. Swain, Andrews, Robbinsville, Murphy, Mitchell, heck even Heritage makes for a LOADED west bracket if things keep going as they are right now
 
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WickedStix9 said:
The thing is, Murphy, Robbinsville, Andrews and Swain all possibly making the playoffs this year will make the west an absolute gauntlet. I know Mt. Airy is the favorite but you don’t ever count a SMC team out. I’ll take my chances with Robbinsville. They haven’t played a cupcake at all this year and have been within a score of both losses. It’ll come down to QB play with them but if our QB can get more comfortable with the ball in his hand, I’ll take Robbinsville over anybody in the West.
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more then possible. according to the rules it's 64 teams , 32 East 32 West...thing is East only has 31 so I assume the #1 seed will get a bye week and the West has 34 so only 2 won't be in the playoffs. I think they should have just had a 32 team bracket like in wrestling.
 
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prlyles said:
The west is more balanced this year but I don’t see us being as strong as years past.
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I don't know man this tarboro team seems more susceptible to giving up yards on the ground than previous teams. One thing about most tarboro fans we're going to give it to you honest. Offensively aside from the Rocky mount game we've been pretty good. Defense has been Shakey though. Although this past Friday night our defense was backed up in their end zone three times and stopped Gates county all 3 times. They did give up a garbage score late in the fourth quarter
 
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Funny, I figured it was the backup center or both.
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BK13T-$ said:
Funny, I figured it was the backup center or both.
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Well it obviously was both. That’s why it said exchanges. But that’s not really the issues I’m talking about. Our QB is gonna have to make a couple plays with his feet. It really cost us last week at the end of the game. Those are the kind of issues I’m talking about.
 
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Looking for help from somebody who understands the playoff format better than I do.

If there’s a split 1A/2A conference, is there one conference champion for seeding purposes, or a 1A and a 2A conference champ?
 
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West final 4: ER, Tville, MA, Rville.

Winner: ER

East final 4: Southside, Rosewood, N Moore, Tboro

Winner: Tarboro

1a champs: Until proven otherwise Tarboro.

West should be a battle. Could see any number of Murphy, Heritage, Andrew’s or Mitchell cracking the final 4 depending on match ups and seeding.

Go Mountaineers
 
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ocdavis31 said:
Looking for help from somebody who understands the playoff format better than I do.

If there’s a split 1A/2A conference, is there one conference champion for seeding purposes, or a 1A and a 2A conference champ?
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"• The highest finishing team from a given classification in a split conference will automatically qualify, regardless of
overall conference finish (minimum of 2 schools per classification)"

If I understand this rule correctly there is only one conference champion doesn't matter 2A or 1A they will be seeded base on their RPI along with other conference champions in whichever classification they play in. In a one class 6+ conference the conference champion and 2nd place team are atuo qualified and the champion is seeded with the other Champs by their RPI but a split say the 1A win the championship they will be seeded as conference champ in 1A playoffs and the second best 1A school will be automatic and the first two 2A schools but not as a champion....my brain hurts lol
 
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In my fantasy playoff format there would be no east/west 1-32,2-31,3-30,4-29,5-28…and I would prefer using Simmons ratings for the seeding purposes
 
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TVILLEDAWG2370 said:
In my fantasy playoff format there would be no east/west 1-32,2-31,3-30,4-29,5-28…and I would prefer using Simmons ratings for the seeding purposes
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Simmons would have the same issue as MaxPreps , you don't know all of their mathematical factors that goes into their algorithm. And personally I like having a East and West champions. But with the number of teams at least in the 1A I would rather go with 32 teams the 2A 3A & 4A have enough teams for a 64 bracket, but it shouldn't be one size fits all should be adjusted to each classification according to how schools that play whatever sport your having playoffs for. Probably couldn't change it year to year but during the realignment for 2021-25 they should have seen there wouldn't be enough in 1A for 64 and made an exception in the rules for 1A.
 
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WickedStix9 said:
That’s kind of the issue I was talking about with the qb…. Although this last game was fumbles by other players, the Brevard game we had 8-10 snap fumbles which really cost us. Just dead plays more or less. Swain, Andrews, Robbinsville, Murphy, Mitchell, heck even Heritage makes for a LOADED west bracket if things keep going as they are right now
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Even with all the fumbles/possession changes, Robbinsville is still averaging 300 yds rushing per game. Unreal
 
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TVILLEDAWG2370 said:
In my fantasy playoff format there would be no east/west 1-32,2-31,3-30,4-29,5-28…and I would prefer using Simmons ratings for the seeding purposes
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Biggest problem I have with Simmons is it comes out mid day Friday. It's only useful for 5 hrs or so and then you wait a week to see it again.
MaxPreps comes out Sun/Mon.

How could you seed for playoffs with Simmons?
 
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Old Mountaineer said:
"• The highest finishing team from a given classification in a split conference will automatically qualify, regardless of
overall conference finish (minimum of 2 schools per classification)"

If I understand this rule correctly there is only one conference champion doesn't matter 2A or 1A they will be seeded base on their RPI along with other conference champions in whichever classification they play in. In a one class 6+ conference the conference champion and 2nd place team are atuo qualified and the champion is seeded with the other Champs by their RPI but a split say the 1A win the championship they will be seeded as conference champ in 1A playoffs and the second best 1A school will be automatic and the first two 2A schools but not as a champion....my brain hurts lol
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There can be two conference "champions" for playoff seeding purposes as long as they meet the criteria.

The teams in each region will be seeded as follows:
(1) Seed all 1st place automatic berths by RPI rating.​
NOTE: The highest finishing team in its half of a split conference must finish in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place overall and/or have an overall winning percentage of .500 or higher in order to be seeded as a #1. Otherwise, the team will be seeded with all other at-large teams.​
(2) Seed all 2nd place automatic berths or conference tournament champions and at-large berths by RPI rating.​
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So for example, in this conference:​
Avery​
Draughn​
Mitchell​
Mountain Heritage​
Rosman​
Madison (2A)​
Owen (2A)​
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Say Mitchell wins overall going 6-0. Madison or Owen would have to finish above .500 overall or top three in conference in order to be seeded with the conference champions in 2A. If they don't meet either of those requirements, they would still automatically qualify (since there are at least 2, 2A teams in conference) but would be seeded with all of the 2nd place automatic qualifiers and at-large teams.​
 
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