We’re probably still 2 years away
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I do believe this. I think that this year will be what last year was supposed to be if we were healthy. Maybe not more wins but will definitely see progress. To repeat myself for the umpteenth time the biggest thing is an end to those 30something to nothing games against teams like Maryland and Minnesota
The portal was here before NIL. Not having used the portal due to NIL isn’t an acceptable answer.
If the team is beaten up again, come November, then the Iowa, PSU, Maryland stretch could get really ugly. Need 6 wins by MSU. Need some semblance of an offense to ensure that doesn’t happen.
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Also, USC and Miami never stopped getting great talent. They need better coaching more than rebuilding. And the players we're not getting away from USC and Miami because of NIL money weren't coming here before, either. Nothing has changed.
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Agree - except that 8-0 string which was over the top for me. Unfortunately, the odds of us getting a winter snow storm in September are probably greater than the odds of us going 8-0 including a win over Michigan.
This one is a lot more reasonable.
Agree - except that 8-0 string which was over the top for me. Unfortunately, the odds of us getting a winter snow storm in September are probably greater than the odds of us going 8-0 including a win over Michigan.
This one is a lot more reasonable.
It was posed as a hypothetical, not a prediction, but still. It was pretty useless commentary that seemed like it was intended for a reaction IMO. Sorry Al (I’ve defended you on some of the others).
I mean sure - if we’re good enough to somehow beat Michigan then maybe we could also beat the other 7 weaker teams on the schedule. It’s sort of like saying - if a kid getting tutoring in math can somehow get a perfect score on NJSLA, maybe he/she can also get a 4 on their report card.
The portal didnt change the fact that we had the weakest value proposition in the big ten, which limited the caliber of player we could attract. 2020, the staff only had a few weeks to put the class together. That year we did land Noah Vedral, who helped us play competitively in 2020 and 2021.
2021 is really the only year we might have hit the portal harder, but I’m not sure it would have made much of a difference. Terry Shea tried to build up Rutgers using transfers in the beginning, but it was a miserable failure.
Our path to success is through developing Non-NIL freshman, which takes time. We can fill in gaps using transfers, but we are unable to build a program using them, unlike USC, which has the resources to buy the best players money can buy.
That’s not true. USC got the Heisman trophy winner and the best WR in the country and a bunch of other players as transfers. They literally rebuilt the roster, buying the best players money can buy.
This is not a strategy available to us. If we had enough money, we could get anyone we want. But we don’t, so we get what we can. For us, transfer portal can fill in gaps, but it isn’t going to build our program.
Offensively, yes, defensively, No. there is so much defensive depth that this could be our best defensive team ever.
Yes I agree this team could be better on defense. By all around, I meant comprehensively. If this year’s team played the 2014 team I’d predict a loss.
That said - I think our current team might be built to hang with the best teams a bit longer than the 2014 team. That team couldn’t stop or even slow down truly elite offenses but was competent on D against the middle of the pack.
Agree and given how bad he was last year it’s not a high bar to clear.
If nothing else, just let him run with the ball more.
Thread title should be:
"We're still 2 years away from a new HC search"
"We're still 2 years away from a new HC search"
The reason the OP say two years away is because 2025 is an easier schedule:
Frankly, we are two years away from moving on from GS. If we dont get to bowl eligibility after a coach's 5th season (2024) then he deserves to get fired. GS's buyout would be 75% of his remaining salary; roughly $9M. With expanded BiG payouts, we'd be able to rip the bandaid off and start fresh in 25 with a new coach and a better schedule.
Hobbs is not going to fire him because he understands it’s a difficult job and a Fieldhouse is needed to be successful.
The ‘24 schedule is ridiculously brutal, so we have to evaluate things within context.
‘25 is the year there is enough talent for us to compete. This is not a sprint. It’s a marathon. Kids take time to develop, especially the kids we’re recruiting.
The lack of a fieldhouse is not holding back this program.
Hobbs will be DM'ing Deion Sanders halfway through the 24 season.
Schiano negotiated a Fieldhouse into his contract because he knew it would be integral to his efforts. Our peers have one and we don’t, so it’s not surprising this build is taking longer, due to a lack of talent.
This job is more difficult than others because it is more difficult to recruit here.
A salesman is only as good as his product. Our product needs to be enhanced and a Fieldhouse will provide significant bang for the buck. It’s not a coincidence that USC and Miami are both building new Fieldhouses when they are already significant NIL players.
Everyone’s impressed with your stupidity. Now run along.
I want to know how you can spend 40 million----which is the going rate------for a new football facility when the Athletic Dept is drowning in debt ?
Explain that to me .
40 Million? The Paint alone might cost 40 Million in New Jersey. Facility will probably be $200M to $300M.
The university loaned athletics money, which they will probably write off at some point. Athletics is a loss leader which provides exposure to the University.
The investment is justified, given that big ten teams will receive $70M this year, which could escalate up to $100M once USC and UCLA join. USC is building new facilities, most of the big 10 already has new facilities, and we need same to successfully recruit.
The President of Rutgers says that Athletics will never make money.
Isn’t the lack of fieldhouse also on HC Schiano?
Doesn’t he need to raise a certain amount of private funds before it can go forward?
What’s the status on that?
What?? It’s been 3 years. What have they been doing since?
If it was so readily known than the building is a major priority (and the lack of one is crippling our recruiting and team) why did Hobbs/Schiano delay take so long to even start raising funds?
I found the report on Hobbs/Schiano needing to raise private funds.
“Facilities: The biggest change. Schiano’s original request for an out clause that would allow him to leave with no buyout penalty if Rutgers did not meet deadlines for facilities improvements has been struck.Instead, Rutgers has acknowledged a new indoor practice facility and football operations center “would be both necessary and desirable” and has committed to developing and acquiring cost projections and conceptual designs “as soon as reasonably practicable” for recruiting and fundraising purposes. Rutgers has also agreed to move forward with facilities plans once Schiano and Hobbs can raise 50% of the projected costs in private donations. There is no timetable set for facility improvements. Early estimations indicate the projects could cost $150 million.”
https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/...ract-to-return-to-rutgers.html?outputType=amp
Wake Forest just built a new facility that is drop dead gorgeous for 40 million.
Can’t do anything in Nj for $40M. Starting estimate was $150M but that was pre COVID. Will likely be $200M - 300M.
Georgia's brand new facility which is a Palace cost 80 million.
Keep posting as you are more comical by the day.
His contract had a cost estimate for the facility of $150M. This was pre COVID and costs have escalated since then. Marylands facility was roughly $250M.
The Northeast uses union labor so costs are much higher, but I tend to believe that build quality is much better.
It took 9 years of neglect to get us to this point. If you want to see better results sooner, pony up for NIL, and you can be part of the solution.
I was back before he left for the Tampa Bay debacle. Then the Ash disaster. They called me about tickets this winter.
Multiple emails and I said I would buy. Never heard back lol.
I think there is some deep institutional disfunction at RU. Only went there because my dad paid for it. Wish I didn't.
Multiple emails and I said I would buy. Never heard back lol.
I think there is some deep institutional disfunction at RU. Only went there because my dad paid for it. Wish I didn't.
keep that bubble inflatedThey have a good shot at a 6-6 record cause they have depth and now it’s not about the players but good coaching, will they beat Ohio State well anything is possible. I just want them to close some of the gap like give these teams some trouble instead of getting blown out or beating themselves , beat Penn state and I call that progress .
There has always been institutional dis function at Rutgers. That’s why donations aren’t what they should be.