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chroix

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It doesn't just prevent tyranny of the majority, it helps prevent the tragedy of the commons.

This strikes me as fundamentally unAmerican. You might feel comfortable handing over control of your vote to an elite overseer but sounds like a cuck move to me.
 
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SDC_99

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Our democracy is a representative government.

That's what we do, elect people to represent our interests.
 

chroix

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Our democracy is a representative government.

That's what we do, elect people to represent our interests.

To a point as you yourself acknowledged and seemed to celebrate. Why I should trust them to behave in the public interest but not state department personnel or FBI agents might require some further explanation for me to be convinced.
 

CatOfDaVille

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Garbage in.

Garbage out.
Oh, I'm sure there's some garbage in. Errors, mistakes, and small pockets of voter fraud happen in plenty of elections. I haven't seen any credible evidence of it yet though, only conjecture, hearsay, and allegations.

Go ahead and uncover and investigate it, but what would be found would be a) on both sides and b) to the tune of dozens or hundreds of votes, not tens of thousands across several different states. The end result won't change in any meaningful way. The Trump campaign knows this, his lawyers know this, the GOP knows this, and you know this deep down. If you want to hang out in phase 1 of the stages of grief, have at it, but you're only setting yourself up for disappointment.

Furthermore, individual counties run elections. You said yourself in this thread that liberals are all morons, yet these are the same people that supposedly manufactured a nationwide conspiracy involving hundreds or thousands of people in various counties and states?

I know this won't make a difference to you. Believe what you want. Logic didn't lead you into this belief, so logic won't be able to pull you out of it.
 

SDC_99

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Oh, I'm sure there's some garbage in. Errors, mistakes, and small pockets of voter fraud happen in plenty of elections. I haven't seen any credible evidence of it yet though, only conjecture, hearsay, and allegations.

Go ahead and uncover and investigate it, but what would be found would be a) on both sides and b) to the tune of dozens or hundreds of votes, not tens of thousands across several different states. The end result won't change in any meaningful way. The Trump campaign knows this, his lawyers know this, the GOP knows this, and you know this deep down. If you want to hang out in phase 1 of the stages of grief, have at it, but you're only setting yourself up for disappointment.

Furthermore, individual counties run elections. You said yourself in this thread that liberals are all morons, yet these are the same people that supposedly manufactured a nationwide conspiracy involving hundreds or thousands of people in various counties and states?

I know this won't make a difference to you. Believe what you want. Logic didn't lead you into this belief, so logic won't be able to pull you out of it.

I know all that, because that's the brainwashed regurgitated viewpoint you see on twitter given to you by the so called news.

Everybody thinks it, and there's a reason for that.
 

HagginHall1999

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It is like everyone knows Duke cheats in basketball but no credible evidence to confirm, just hearday and conjecture. I get it.
 

SDC_99

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Let the process play out, the courts (not incidentally, another system of checks and balance the left seeks to weaken or destroy) will determine the legality of the results.
 

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Let the process play out, the courts (not incidentally, another system of checks and balance the left seeks to weaken or destroy) will determine the legality of the results.

I thought you nuts were always telling the courts to stay out of it?
 
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The-Hack

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Biden will tie Trump's EC number from 2016 once states certify the results.

Technically, if Biden carries Zona and Georgia, and loses N.C., and if his electors stay true, he’ll end up with 306: the same Trump was supposed to have, but two broke of for Collin Powell and Ron Paul, leaving him 304.
 
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ScrewDuke1

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Correct.

However, the math behind their projections means everything.

Biden will tie Trump's EC number from 2016 once states certify the results.
We will see. The SC may have a say in that. However, my main point is that we dont know who won this election yet. Trump hasn't won, but neither has Biden either. Could be weeks or months before we know. What a disaster mail in ballots were for the country.
 

KRJ1975

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It’s pretty clear that there are some irregularities with this election. What they amount to is the question.

What’s becoming clear is that Trump’s SCOTUS appointments are not pawns. They will rule on the law and not on whatever temper tantrum he might throw.

The ACA is staying.

Roe v Wade is staying.

And unless there is definitive and unassailable proof that there are enough illegal votes out there to change the will of the people, this election result is staying as is. Trump overplayed his hand here. He thought ACB would just bow down and do whatever he wanted. She’s much better than that.
 

CatOfDaVille

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We will see. The SC may have a say in that. However, my main point is that we dont know who won this election yet. Trump hasn't won, but neither has Biden either. Could be weeks or months before we know. What a disaster mail in ballots were for the country.
You're wrong though. It is over. Biden's lead in PA is more than the number of votes remaining to count. That's even with the few hundred ballots not included in the count that were segregated because they came in within the 3 day grace period.

Even if Trump comes back to win AZ combined with the 0.01% chance he wins GA in a recount, it doesn't matter. Biden's at 279 with PA and NV.

Now, if you're saying he'll win because of ballots getting thrown out due to voter fraud, there's been zero credible evidence of widespread voter fraud. The Trump campaign is like 0-13 on their lawsuits so far. One in NV was dismissed today as well as one in PA where they were arguing over 500 ballots. The USPS whistleblower legally recanted his claim that he was told to backdate ballots. There's no way there will be enough mistakes, glitches, and tiny amounts of fraud (all of which happen every election) to make a difference.

Face it, bro. Biden won.
 
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You're wrong though. It is over. Biden's lead in PA is more than the number of votes remaining to count. That's even with the few hundred ballots not included in the count that were segregated because they came in within the 3 day grace period.

Even if Trump comes back to win AZ combined with the 0.01% chance he wins GA in a recount, it doesn't matter. Biden's at 279 with PA and NV.

Now, if you're saying he'll win because of ballots getting thrown out due to voter fraud, there's been zero credible evidence of widespread voter fraud. The Trump campaign is like 0-13 on their lawsuits so far. One in NV was dismissed today as well as one in PA that where they were arguing over 500 ballots. The USPS whistleblower legally recanted his claim that he was told to backdate ballots. There's no way there will be enough mistakes, glitches, and tiny amounts of fraud (all of which happen every election) to make a difference.

Face it, bro. Biden won.
There is going to be fraud on trumps side too. Let’s not forget that.
 

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Litterally all you have to do is pull up Election map to see why we have a EC. High populous big cities vote Left. Low populous rural communities vote Right. The vast majority of the map is colored Red but the power is in the Blue cities all over the country. Money sits in high populous cities and people flock to them.

This is why we have an EC. If we didn't have an EC elections would be decided ONLY by high populous big cities where consistent political ideologies are generally shared.

The only other option would be to award 1pt to each state based off popular vote with no balance to that states total population.

The funny part in all of this the average median income is highest in Dem led cities where the disparity in wage gaps is also highest. People need to get a grip. Big cities drive ideologies and the sheep all say baah.
Why do you think people that think differently than you do are sheep? Does that help you not have to critically analyze your thoughts?
 

dgtatu01

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It's a powerful, and extremely intelligent check and balance.

It doesn't just prevent tyranny of the majority, it helps prevent the tragedy of the commons.

Big words and difficult concepts for liberals to understand, but if you're going to boast about how smart you are nonstop by deferring all your intelligence to experts, as you scream TRUST THE SCIENCE!, while you get all your idiotic opinions fed to you by Jake Tapper and Zuckerberg....

turnabout is fair play, demz the breaks.

In the immortal words of Don Rumsfeld, you don't know what you don't know.

Take a knee, swear fealty to your Marxist overlords sponsored by Nike and Starbucks - your next day prime delivery is on its way.
Always funny to me when people say you're using science, research, and facts to come up with your thoughts, you must be an idiot. It's really rich.
 

mrhotdice

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Correct.

However, the math behind their projections means everything.

Biden will tie Trump's EC number from 2016 once states certify the results.
States can’t certify if sued. Democratic fraud will be their downfall. If they did nothing wrong then why start a defense fund to protect cheaters. And if anyone says they want every vote counted you can figure they cheated because it’s legal votes that should be counted.
 

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It’s pretty clear that there are some irregularities with this election. What they amount to is the question.

What’s becoming clear is that Trump’s SCOTUS appointments are not pawns. They will rule on the law and not on whatever temper tantrum he might throw.

The ACA is staying.

Roe v Wade is staying.

And unless there is definitive and unassailable proof that there are enough illegal votes out there to change the will of the people, this election result is staying as is. Trump overplayed his hand here. He thought ACB would just bow down and do whatever he wanted. She’s much better than that.
 

sobester

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I agree with this unless you’re saying there appear to be MORE irregularities in this election than normal. I don’t see that at all. I also think whether they are pawns or not is yet to be determined.
 
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HagginHall1999

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Why do you think people that think differently than you do are sheep? Does that help you not have to critically analyze your thoughts?

I don't at all. I think that 40% of this country doesn't think for themselves. I think 40% of this country latches onto whatever they are told or read and that becomes their thoughts.

I am not even a hard right conservative, far from it. What I wrote above is reality.