Well, Matt Wyatt's an *******

[QuaoarsKing]

His latest Tweet:
And THAT ladies/gents, is the end of the scouts. RT @AP: MORE: Boy Scouts approve plan to accept openly gay boys: http://apne.ws/189uTaJ -CC




Outrageous bigotry from someone who represents MSU. Unless he apologizes and removes the Tweet, MSU needs to release a statement condemning his words and formally disassociating with him.


In addition, it's farcically hyperbolic. What does he think gays are going to do to "end" the Scouts? Somehow it's all going to turn into a big gay orgy or something? Also, does he honestly believe there aren't any gays in the Scouts already? Face it -- there are lots of troops around the country who already allow gay Scouts. And the ones who don't are probably going to keep not allowing them in spite of today's news. So it's unlikely this will do anything. Hell, we had a gay person in my Scout troop. He didn't formally out of the closet until later, but we all knew it. His presence didn't "end" the Scouts for anyone.


Anyway, thanks for the memories back in 1999 and all that, Matt, but you're a bigoted ******* and I'm ashamed to have you out there representing MSU.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

He's pretty outwardly homophobic. His comments on Collins showed it too.

 

[JungRebel]

Irrational prejudices lead to irrational conclusions. Scouts admit homosexuals ---> ??? ---> Scouts end.

Sound.

 

[Palmettodog]

He's entitled to his opinion, whether its politically correct or not. Doesn't make him an *******.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

He's perfectly entitled to be an *******.

But to say that opinions can't make you an ******* is just silly.

 

[lasher8]

I'd say that whether Matt is an ******* or not is also a matter of opinion too.

He's entitled to his opinion, whether its politically correct or not. Doesn't make him an *******.

 

[00Dawg]

Let's just say others of us don't agree with you.

 

[MStateFan22]

2nded

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[YardBarker]

You think he's an ******* because he doesn't agree with your views? You want him to apologize to you? Really? Really?

How about you apologize to me then because you offend me with your views. This board should issue a statement disassociating itself from you.

He has every right to an opinion just as you do. Go smoke one sugar britches.

 

[lasher8]

Let's just say you agree with him about the "end" of the Boy Scouts. How is this going to "end"the boy scouts?

Let's just say others of us don't agree with you.

 

[MM4MSU]

I agree with Matt......

I respect right of anyone to live lifestyle of choice, however, I abhor the whole pc movement. There is nothing wrong with standing by Bible based values. I'm not bashing gays, however to call someone an ******* because he takes a stand for maintaining traditional family values is wrong. If Matt is an AH for expressing that opinion, then I proudly proclaim to be one also. Michael M (MSU '73)

 

[Cousin Jeffrey]

Careful... Your bigotry and intolerance of those who don't share your opinion is showing.

 

[lasher8]

Since you also are on Matt's side on this, maybe you can answer my question. How does this "end" the Boy Scouts? I see someone asked him about it on twitter but he doesn't seem to want to answer.

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[MStateFan22]

Obviously it won't be the end of boy scouts. I think Matt knows that and I don't think that was the point he was trying to make.

 

[lasher8]

Sugar britches???

You think he's an ******* because he doesn't agree with your views? You want him to apologize to you? Really? Really?

How about you apologize to me then because you offend me with your views. This board should issue a statement disassociating itself from you.

He has every right to an opinion just as you do. Go smoke one sugar britches.

 

[JungRebel]

He might not be an *******, but his comments do not reflect reality.

 

[Xenomorph]

I've come to realize, the less I listen to Matt talk about social issues..

...the more I like him.

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

We need a new buzz word(s) to sway opinion, how about 'homophobe phobe'?

Everyone who doesn't agree with the trend must have some sort of pathologic phobia. And we can also couple 'bigot' with 'homophobe phobe' to place the discussion on a philosophical pedastal as opposed to the typical tripe at the urinal trough.

 

[lasher8]

That is what he tweeted. Would you care to interpret for us what he really meant, or the "point he was trying to make". So you don't agree with him after all?

Obviously it won't be the end of boy scouts. I think Matt knows that and I don't think that was the point he was trying to make.

 

[JungRebel]

If he doesn't mean the literal end of the scouts, what does he mean? I cannot see how this move will end the scouts from teaching youngin's to be prepared for the real world - quite the opposite, in fact.

 

[00Dawg]

I don't have enough info to make a call on that particular portion yet. I will say the reaction I'm seeing from my circle of fellow Eagles is...virulent. If this is a rule where local troops don't have a choice, I could see a lot of sponsoring churches pulling the plug, and a number of troops disbanding or simply dying off over time. If the first two happen you might end up with something similar to the Heritage Girls taking over in much of the South and Midwest.

 

[godlluB]

You don't have to be a Christian to be in Boy Scouts (you do have to believe in a god of some sort, Hindus welcome), so "Bible Based values" are already not applicable.

Matt is wrong, and as someone who is associated prominently with MSU, he should learn to temper some of his opinions. How many of you would feel the same way if Jack Cristil had spent as much time espousing Judaism (he is a lay Rabbi) as Matt does Christianity?

 

[WrapItDog]

Matt is a one way *******. Exit only.

 

[lasher8]

Do these people really think that there haven't been gay boys in the Boy Scouts all these years? Are churches the only sponsors for BoyScout troops...Serious question, I don't know.

And I don't know what you're talking about with the Heritage Girls taking over. Please explain.

I don't have enough info to make a call on that particular portion yet. I will say the reaction I'm seeing from my circle of fellow Eagles is...virulent. If this is a rule where local troops don't have a choice, I could see a lot of sponsoring churches pulling the plug, and a number of troops disbanding or simply dying off over time. If the first two happen you might end up with something similar to the Heritage Girls taking over in much of the South and Midwest.

 

[MStateFan22]

I believe he was just letting out his disgust with the decision.

Is there anything wrong with that?

 

[Southern Law Dawg]

I am still wondering how this will "end" scouts, and if that is not what he meant, then what did he mean? Everyone knows his views on the issue at hand and there is no doubt what he meant when he tweeted that. Unfortunately for you homophobes out there, your worldview is now in the minority in this country (Check Rasmussen's latest polls on this, it's a fact), so if State ever wants to come into the 21st century and be viewed as a modern institution as opposed to one of the last hold outs of a hateful lifestyle choice, just like we view Ole Miss as one of the last bastions of racism in America, whether that is the truth or not. Matt, while he has the right to his awful opinion, should not express it in such a public fashion as long as he is as closely associated with the University as he is.

 

[jeremyrbrown]

This decision may not literally end Boy Scouts, but it has the potential to drastically change it. BSA will now allow openly gay kids, but once they turn 18, they won't be able to participate because they'll probably still be gay. A previous Supreme Court decision protects BSA from allowing gay adult leaders.
A lot of troops are affiliated with conservative churches. A lot of them could lose their charter. That will lead to the BSA leaning more liberally than it is now. Combine that with the one day increase in gay adult former scouts, and that makes the choice to not allow gay leaders less likely to stick.

 

[godlluB]

There are three troops in Starkville. Troop 14 is sponsored by the Starkville Rotary Club, Troop 45 is sponsored by First United Methodist Church, and Troop 27 is sponsored by the Optimist Club.

Nationwide, around 50% of all Boy Scout troops are sponsored by either the Latter Day Saints or Catholic Churches.

 

[Thirty-Two Dive]

If he doesn't mean the literal end of the scouts, what does he mean? I cannot see how this move will end the scouts from teaching youngin's to be prepared for the real world - quite the opposite, in fact.

It is also to help instill a certain value set. A set of values inconsistent of today's BSA succumbing to political correctness.

Those parents now find the BSA's stance and values contradictory to what they want their children influenced by, will not send their boys to Scouts. Hence, "The End of Scouting", with an implied "as we knew it to be"

See, Some people still actually consider homosexuality to be a sin. If you stand up for that value, you are considered homophobic. Crazy, huh?** Matt obviously believes that way...

 

[CadaverDawg]

Are you people really this upset over Matt Wyatt's twitter comment? My God, people, grow a sack.

It's this dramatic, "that was politically incorrect", women's book club, reaction that makes everyone associate political correctness with the pussification of America. Fire a shot back at him or shut the hell up about it. Be a damn man.

You want equal, well that's about as equal as it gets. Nobody's going to coddle you because Matt Wyatt upset you with a tweet.

My goodness, it will be a miracle if we don't have a male President that wears a dress one day. And I'm not talking about gays here, for those that are ready to pounce, I am talking about these sissy assed reactions to things like a 17ing tweet.

 

[jeremyrbrown]

He's pretty outwardly homophobic. His comments on Collins showed it too.

Just because someone believes that the act of homosexuality is wrong, doesn't make them a homophobe. That's just another misuse of a term to try to villainize someone for their beliefs.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

This is not just some political issue. If Matt had Tweeted something about taxes or something, I would have just ignored it. Matt is saying that gay people as a whole are not fit to be Boy Scouts. That is a bigoted and dehumanizing position for him to take, and unbecoming of someone who brags about how Christian he is.

How exactly will having some gay Scouts (who already exist, obviously) somehow ruin the organization as a whole? Does he think it will all turn into a big gay orgy party? Face it -- gays aren't going to want to join the superhomophobic troops anyway, so this decision probably won't change anything. I'm not sure whether Matt's hyperbole or his outright bigotry is more unbelievable.

I don't think anyone here would be saying "oh well, that's his personal opinion" if he were saying that blacks don't deserve the chance to be Scouts.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Over reach much ?

 

[00Dawg]

No, there are other sponsors of Scouting organizations. My local troop was sponsored by a civic organization. But churches do make up the majority.
The Heritage Girls are a group that split off from the Girl Scouts back in the mid-'90s when the organization made a series of controversial decisions on mostly religious issues. They're still pretty small compared to the Girl Scouts.

 

[LTblows]

Count me in the "*******" camp.

And by "end," he may mean the end of the values that scouts have held for decades. He's seeing a private organization that he has attachment to significantly alter their core values, and he still holds that homosexuality shouldn't be openly condoned in the organization. The basis of his views, I believe, is due to his spiritual views, and therefore, after all of that, if it makes him an ******* to be upset with the decision, then count me in as well.

 

[lasher8]

That is his personal right, and yours as well. But the original post was about him being a representative of MSU - a pretty high profile representative. I'm pretty sure MSU administration doesn't want this out there from a representative of the university.

People have a right to their opinion and a right to speak it. They don't have the right to publicly speak their opinion and be exempt from blowback or consequences from it.

Is there anything wrong with that?

 

[Thirty-Two Dive]

Are you people really this upset over Matt Wyatt's twitter comment?

I guess most thought it wasn't a joke. One thing for sure, it has brought out some polarity.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

You are absolutely correct. In this day of overboard political correctness we should burn him at the stake. Everyone is free to have an opinion as long as they don't say anything about the Ghey.

Just so we are clear, I have no problem with the Ghey rights or marriage. I have no problem with the homophobes. What I do have a problem with is if someone expresses in either direction and are automatically called for tar and feathering for their statements and apologies or firings demanded.

Everyone needs to get a 17ing grip and realize not everyone is going to agree with you or express their opinions the way you think they should.

 

[lasher8]

Irrelevant much?

Over reach much ?

 

[Southern Law Dawg]

Just because someone believes that the act of homosexuality is wrong, doesn't make them a homophobe. That's just another misuse of a term to try to villainize someone for their beliefs.

Referring to a type of love as wrong is dehumanizing. To dehumanize a certain group of people is to have a phobia of them, hence, homophobia. Just because the the word phobia means fear of doesn't mean that you have to literally be scared or openly hateful of something to be a phobe. If it has a negative effect on you in any way, such as making you uncomfortable, it is still a light phobia.