West Suburban Week 6

[Wild_Mustang]

Games of the Week
Gold
Addison Trail (3-2) @ Hinsdale South (3-2)

Hinsdale South is out for revenge after last years devastating loss 17-14 after not being able to convert on 4th & 1 on the goal line. AT is coming off back to back close wins against Leyden & Willowbrook. Both teams HAVE to have this gam, in my opinion it is for the conference championship because I believe DGS will beat Willowbrook when they play later in the year. South is back on track after falling asleep at the wheel. Both defenses better be ready for this game, they will both have their hands full. I'm taking South in this.
The spread is South -5.5 and the O/U is 42.

Silver
Hinsdale Central (5-0) @ Glenbard West (5-0)

The showdown of all showdowns, might be the biggest match up of the season so far, IMO it is. I'm going to go with Hinsdale Central on this one and here is the reason why. In order to beat GBW you will need a QB who can throw the ball. You're not going to beat them running 40 times a game in the Wing-T, they'll dominate you and swallow you up. I think HC has the QB to do it....OPRF as well, but we will wait for that match up when it happens. It can obviously go either way and picking HC was not easy. I personally do not think there will be as much scoring as everyone else does.
The spread is Glenbard West -1.5 and the O/U is 62
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Predictions (19-2)

Gold
Hinsdale South (3-2) - 35 vs Addison Trail (3-2) - 14 (Spread South -5.5, O/U 42)
Morton (1-4) - 26 vs Willowbrook (2-3) - 21 (Spread Willowbrook -6.5, O/U 38)
Downers Grove South (2-3) - 21 vs Leyden (2-3) - 20 (Spread Leyden -1.5, O/U 41.5)

Silver
Hinsdale Central (5-0) - 28 vs Glenbard West (5-0) - 21 (Spread GBW -1.5, O/U 62)
Lyons (4-1) - 24 vs Downers Grove North (2-3) - 13 (Spread Lyons -1.5, O/U 35)
Oak Park (5-0) - 49 vs York (2-3) - 6 (Spread Oak Park -25, O/U 48)

Crossover
Proviso West (0-5) - 21 vs Proviso East (0-5) - 14 (Spread Proviso East -1.5, O/U 38)

 

[chuck998]

I'm going to stop predicting the Gold. From week to week, I can't figure out who's hot and who's not, so for me these teams are a hot mess, at best. HS should be the class of the conference, and Leyden and AT should be close behind, but I'm just flat out confused by these guys.

So, on to Silver. LT beats DGN by 7, PW beats PE but no one cares, OPRF beats York by as many points they want to, and GW beats HC by 21.

A word about the GW/HC game. HC'S opponents this season have a combined record of 7-18, while GW'S combined opponents is 13-12. Why do I bring this up? Nearly every year, GW sits at about this level of performance against about the same level of opponents. For HC, they are sailing along against below average teams, and they are scoring lots of points against these teams, and holding them to low scores. However, they have not played against a quality offense like GW, nor has their "proven" offensive machine been hit as hard as they are about to be hit (well, some of them were around for last years beatdown). I think GW will win by at least 21, but there is a possibility it could be +40. I think GW has improved a lot in the last 3 weeks, and like last year against HC, they should (finally) be firing on all cylinders this week. Dear Lord, please, no rain Saturday!

 

[Wild_Mustang]

A word about the GW/HC game. HC'S opponents this season have a combined record of 7-18, while GW'S combined opponents is 13-12. Why do I bring this up? Nearly every year, GW sits at about this level of performance against about the same level of opponents. For HC, they are sailing along against below average teams, and they are scoring lots of points against these teams, and holding them to low scores. However, they have not played against a quality offense like GW, nor has their "proven" offensive machine been hit as hard as they are about to be hit

Good points

 

[JCHILLTOPPERS]

I'm going to stop predicting the Gold. From week to week, I can't figure out who's hot and who's not, so for me these teams are a hot mess, at best. HS should be the class of the conference, and Leyden and AT should be close behind, but I'm just flat out confused by these guys.

So, on to Silver. LT beats DGN by 7, PW beats PE but no one cares, OPRF beats York by as many points they want to, and GW beats HC by 21.

A word about the GW/HC game. HC'S opponents this season have a combined record of 7-18, while GW'S combined opponents is 13-12. Why do I bring this up? Nearly every year, GW sits at about this level of performance against about the same level of opponents. For HC, they are sailing along against below average teams, and they are scoring lots of points against these teams, and holding them to low scores. However, they have not played against a quality offense like GW, nor has their "proven" offensive machine been hit as hard as they are about to be hit (well, some of them were around for last years beatdown). I think GW will win by at least 21, but there is a possibility it could be +40. I think GW has improved a lot in the last 3 weeks, and like last year against HC, they should (finally) be firing on all cylinders this week. Dear Lord, please, no rain Saturday!

Dont disagree.

I do think this game is way more about how good hc is than how good is gw. I know how good they are.

From a dsr po perspective, other than a win, to stay ranked I think hc needs to keep the game within two scores... and mostly because I have no idea what to do with the dvc. Typically, a 10-14 point loss would bounce them at this point of the season. An hc win obviously bumos them into the top 3-5.

 

[Wild_Mustang]

I think HC has a chip on it's shoulder after last years pounding. But that only gets you so far. I've seen both teams play (just once). When I saw GBW play they looked good but I saw Hinsdale South pretty much do whatever they wanted offensively until the vaunted "double fumble". I saw HC play DGN and just pound them. What I saw from HC that I liked was their passing game, I think that's the only way you beat GBW, through the air. You're not going to line up and run the ball on them consistently, you are going to HAVE to throw the ball to beat them and I think HC can and will.

Like I said before, I won't be surprised if GBW wins. They are a damn good team.

 

[capnbillhitters]

I think HC has a chip on it's shoulder after last years pounding. But that only gets you so far. I've seen both teams play (just once). When I saw GBW play they looked good but I saw Hinsdale South pretty much do whatever they wanted offensively until the vaunted "double fumble". I saw HC play DGN and just pound them. What I saw from HC that I liked was their passing game, I think that's the only way you beat GBW, through the air. .

Field conditions will be key. It would be fun to see this game played on a field where traction won't be an issue. I think that is what GW hopes as well. Big question is whether HC o-line can protect QB from the LB Gagilano and the horses up front that beat up York/DGN/LT for 3 qtrs each. HC will move the ball, I'm sure of that. It comes down to making big plays and Gagliano has something like 15 sacks now in 5 games, and that's conservative.

 

[chuck998]

Duchon Field will have had three weeks to rest and recuperate, so I don't think it will be a factor (it looked pretty good the morning when i ran by it). And last time I looked at the weather forecast, it looks like cool and sunny conditions.

GW' s offense has played against 2 good defenses this year in HS and Bollingbrook. GW' s defense has been improving each week to the point that they are as good as any previous GW defense from the last 5 or 6 years. My guess is that HC will move the ball between the 20s but will find scoring very difficult. HC defense is flat out over matched, especially once GW makes its first adjustments to HC ' s defensive game plan.

So, which will be the first team forced to start taking risks? That team will be 5-1 at 4:00 on Saturday afternoon. The odds are good that team is HC.

 

[capnbillhitters]

I think HC has a chip on it's shoulder after last years pounding. But that only gets you so far.

Real quick on this Wild, each of the hits that put guys out last year were HC defensive players hitting GW offensive guys with the ball and dropping. There was no "bullying" defensive hits by West that caused the play stoppage, so not sure why they would have a chip on their shoulder.

Not trying to make a big deal out of it, but think it should be mentioned for those that didn't see the game.

 

[Wild_Mustang]

Was not insuating (sp?) that at all....at all. I was just referring to GBW beating HC in a blow out. Didn't say anything about "bullying" or anything even close to that. Not sure where that came from. They have a chip on their shoulder because GBW blew them out at home last year.

It's all good though.

 

[capnbillhitters]

My apologies...I certainly didn't mean you said bully by putting it in quotes. That was incorrect on my part.

This will be a fun game for both teams. And the key will be the 2nd half adjustments. All good

 

[Goomlah]

HS
Willowbrook
DGS
GBW
Lyons
OPRF
PW

 

[Trojanman79]

Battle of 209, which proviso will get that first and potentially only W.

 

[capnbillhitters]

HS
Willowbrook
DGS
GBW
Lyons
OPRF
PW

ditto except I would list as GW

 

[hornetnation7]

Duchon Field will have had three weeks to rest and recuperate, so I don't think it will be a factor (it looked pretty good the morning when i ran by it). And last time I looked at the weather forecast, it looks like cool and sunny conditions.

GW' s offense has played against 2 good defenses this year in HS and Bollingbrook. GW' s defense has been improving each week to the point that they are as good as any previous GW defense from the last 5 or 6 years. My guess is that HC will move the ball between the 20s but will find scoring very difficult. HC defense is flat out over matched, especially once GW makes its first adjustments to HC ' s defensive game plan.

So, which will be the first team forced to start taking risks? That team will be 5-1 at 4:00 on Saturday afternoon. The odds are good that team is HC.

This will be HC's 1st real test. Not sure HC will be able to handle the physicality of GBW, which tends to increase as the game goes on.
I'll go with GBW

 

[Wild_Mustang]

I'm the only one going with HC. I agree this is their first real test of the year.

Is the game going to be on anywhere online or TV?

 

[Goomlah]

ditto except I would list as GW

I've always but a B in there I really dunno why.

 

[Wild_Mustang]

Me to, GBW just looks better than GW. I wish people would put H-Floss instead of HF because I always think they're talking about Hales Franciscan. I don't like HS for Hinsdale South either, I usually just put South.

 

[Wild_Mustang]

Battle of 209, which proviso will get that first and potentially only W.

I haven't seen either team play, I took Proviso West and the under in this game. One day these teams will be good, they have to be.

 

[Trojanman79]

Yea not sure what's up at PW this year, not themselves for sure. Proviso East is another story though, seemed to be heading the right direction, not sure what happened. Good coaching staff but I heard they changed Head coaches right before the season and hired someone from the outside....headscratcher

 

[GEPreps]

GBW just looks better than GW

Glenbard is one word.

Might as well call the Hinsdale schools HDC and HDS.

 

[UlbKA91]

Also it is more common to hear the GlenBROOKS go by either GBN or GBS.

 

[Wild_Mustang]

I'm still doing GBW regardless if it makes sense or not. You guys are just going to have to deal with it.

 

[chuck998]

Yea not sure what's up at PW this year, not themselves for sure. Proviso East is another story though, seemed to be heading the right direction, not sure what happened. Good coaching staff but I heard they changed Head coaches right before the season and hired someone from the outside....headscratcher

I watched PW play last week. It was difficult to watch. On nearly every play through the first half, they had at least one player looking to the sidelines for help or instructions, and on a few plays had only 10 kids on the field. I thought the coach' s head was going to explode. I went to the game to measure OPRF, but left with nothing much to measure them against.

 

[CoachHansen05]

I'm still doing GBW regardless if it makes sense or not. You guys are just going to have to deal with it.

As a point of reference, Downers Grove North and Downers Grove South both have three words. Hence, DGN and DGS are their respective abbreviations. As GEPreps said, Glenbard is one word. Therefore, Glenbard West is two words and should be abbreviated GW. I will deal with you the same way I deal with people who incorrectly use your and you're or there, their, and they're: SMH. Deal?

 

[Wild_Mustang]

As a point of reference, Downers Grove North and Downers Grove South both have three words. Hence, DGN and DGS are their respective abbreviations. As GEPreps said, Glenbard is one word. Therefore, Glenbard West is two words and should be abbreviated GW. I will deal with you the same way I deal with people who incorrectly use your and you're or there, their, and they're: SMH. Deal?

 

[godfthr53]

Its always been that the Glenbard schools were GW GN GS and the Glenbrooks were GBN GBS. Deal with it.

 

[Wild_Mustang]

 

[Dino brown]

Lol!

 

[flyers4]

Of all the teams in the WSC Silver no one folds against Glenbard West lately quite like Hinsdale Central. This game wont be close just like last year or the year before. They might actually finish the whole game this time though.

 

[Wild_Mustang]

Of all the teams in the WSC Silver no one folds against Glenbard West lately quite like Hinsdale Central. This game wont be close just like last year or the year before. They might actually finish the whole game this time though.

Cheap shots being tossed around early today.

 

[capnbillhitters]

I think flyers is a HC coach trying to create some locker room material...

 

[Wild_Mustang]

I think flyers is a HC coach trying to create some locker room material...

Nah, they're classier than that

 

[BretEpic]

While I love everything about this HC team, I think GW is too good this year. Hitters by two scores.

 

[jdhitters]

Edgy uses GBW and sometimes GB West. Several on the DSR panel also use GBW. My tax dollars go to the school so I will call it what I want, GBW. GBW's defense has been pretty strong against the pass. A lot of interceptions and incomplete passes. I am not sure if HC is up to that pressure on the pass. GBW had a decent amount of inconsistency earlier, but they are clicking now, except for some stupid penalties. Some

 

[Wild_Mustang]

Looks like it's me against the world. Like I said, I would NOT be surprised if GBW AKA GW won this game. I just have a gut feeling that HC is going to win.

 

[Wild_Mustang]

Went to the Hinsdale South/Addison Trail game last night, they dominated, was never really in doubt or close. They're back on track. Leyden beat DGS, good for Leyden, they've been picked on by DGS for years and they got them last night. They're a tough little team, them and South play next week, that'll be a good game to see. Do not sleep on Leyden this year, they have played every team tough this year.

I went with Morton in the upset over Willowbrook, looks like they almost had it. I wasn't to impressed with Willowbrook when I saw them against York last week and kept wondering to myself, "how the heck did they beat Hinsdale South?", still makes no sense to me, but it's time to move on. Anyway, right now they have the tiebreaker for the Conference. South needs to win out against Leyden & Morton and needs Willowbrook to lose to DGS and/or Leyden...which I think they will, to at least one of those teams.

Oak Park only beat York 21-6? That's interesting. Besides HC and GBW I thought they were God's 3rd great gift to earth. Maybe it was just one of those nights. York is an average team, must have had a good game plan for it not to be as bad as everyone thought it was going to be.

 

[capnbillhitters]

I tell you what...that HC o-line might be the best in the state. Allen is an absolute mauler.

Best of luck to HC and all you Loyola and Homer Flosswood folks better be ready for a ball game from HC in 8A. Bobek is stud running back that brakes a ton of tackles. HC is impressive and those dudes certainly played with a chip on the should to prove last year was way in the past.

Cheers

 

[jdhitters]

A battle to the end. Boback was amazing. Agreed great O-line. Good luck in the playoffs. Make WSC proud.

 

[chuck998]

I posted my thoughts on the game in the other thread. I'll just restate that HC is a quality team. They more than made up for last season. I'm not sure GW ever solved the "#5 up the middle" play. One heck of an o-line. However, if someone from HC could answer a question: why play the 2 QBs? I'm not saying it cost you the game, but I'm not sure what you got from it. Just wondering.

Now, gear up for a HC/HF 8A championship game.

 

[Wild_Mustang]

I've seen Loyola play and no offense to anyone but nobody is touching Loyola this year...nobody. I know everyone is on HF, but let me tell you, Loyola is on another level this year. Loyola/Hinsdale Central playoffs would be an AWESOME match up. GBW will be 7A right or are they close to being in 8A?

South has to win out in Conference then. What do you guys think when South plays Central in a couple of weeks? You guys have now played against both teams.