What a damn joke.

RocketDawg

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A 16-team bracket would have added Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Texas, and BYU, and I think most everyone would have been fine with that.
I think so, and will Vanderbilt ever get another chance? We'll see. They signed a 5* QB out of high school.
 

85Bears

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If they leave the third or fourth best team out it’s almost not worth watching
 

Perd Hapley

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Yeah that made absolutely no sense. They should have just left bama out and pushed Miami in, if they just wanted an acc school in
Again, they’ve been setting this up for weeks, with no justification whatsoever. They jumped Miami over Vandy - for no reason -weeks ago. They kept them ahead of them after Vandy boatraced a Tennessee team that’s better than any team Miami’s played except ND.

Now the most obvious corruption of all, they move Miami ahead of ND when not only did neither of those teams play this past weekend, but no team on either of their schedules played either.

You can say all you want about Miami winning the head to head. But that’s been known for months, and yet ND had been ahead in the rankings for weeks and weeks after Miami added their terrible losses. This is just comical.
 

85Bears

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3 loss bama got beat by 14 by 5-7 Florida state And still gets in. just as a fan I think ND could beat any team in the field and is probably #3#4 seed. This is corrupt as hell.
 

Perd Hapley

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Huh? I mean it is, but can you really argue much with the 12 they round up with? I’d Personally put Notre dame in over Alabama. But it’s close. Who really cares?
Its pure corruption when you change the last team in the field based solely on DEI for the P4 leagues. So yes, you can argue quite a bit with it.
 

L4Dawg

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Again, they’ve been setting this up for weeks, with no justification whatsoever. They jumped Miami over Vandy - for no reason -weeks ago. They kept them ahead of them after Vandy boatraced a Tennessee team that’s better than any team Miami’s played except ND.

Now the most obvious corruption of all, they move Miami ahead of ND when not only did neither of those teams play this past weekend, but no team on either of their schedules played either.

You can say all you want about Miami winning the head to head. But that’s been known for months, and yet ND had been ahead in the rankings for weeks and weeks after Miami added their terrible losses. This is just comical.
Miami should have been ahead of Notre Dame all along. The only reason Notre Dame was there was they had their usual overinflated preseason ranking.
 
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L4Dawg

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3 loss bama got beat by 14 by 5-7 Florida state And still gets in. just as a fan I think ND could beat any team in the field and is probably #3#4 seed. This is corrupt as hell.
Bama also beat Georgia during the season. The only team that has a better win is Indiana. The precedent was set last year, they aren’t going to punish a team for losing its conference title game. Notre Dame doesn’t have a win that is even close to that.
 

FlotownDawg

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Hunter Yuracheck saying that the committee couldn’t evaluate Miami’s head to head win over Notre Dame until those teams were side by side in the rankings was ridiculous. Reece Davis was trying hard to keep from rolling his eyes while that idiot was talking. They just make up schitt to justify getting the teams they want in. Miami has been behind Notre Dame all season and now in the last week when neither of them played, Miami jumps over them because of reasons.
 

patdog

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Hunter Yuracheck saying that the committee couldn’t evaluate Miami’s head to head win over Notre Dame until those teams were side by side in the rankings was ridiculous. Reece Davis was trying hard to keep from rolling his eyes while that idiot was talking. They just make up schitt to justify getting the teams they want in. Miami has been behind Notre Dame all season and now in the last week when neither of them played, Miami jumps over them because of reasons.
So taking him at his word, what he’s saying is we have so little confidence in our rankings that we can’t tell you if #10 is better than #12 or not, even when they’ve played each other.
 

POTUS

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The mistake is thinking the rankings mean anything before selection Sunday. They clearly aren’t as important as we’d like to believe.

ETA: If ND doesn’t like it, they only have themselves to blame. Join a conference. This is the cost of being independent. You aren’t bigger than the sport.
 

MStateDawg

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I think ND could beat any team in the field and is probably #3#4 seed. This is corrupt as hell.
Thinking Notre Dame should be in over Bama is fine.
Thinking Notre Dame should be the 3 or 4 seed is 17ing assinine. They played 2 games versus teams in the playoff (no. 7 seed Texas A&M and no. 10 seed Miami). They lost BOTH games, but you're enraged because you think ND is a 3 or 4 seed????? That is nonsense.
 

85Bears

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Thinking Notre Dame should be in over Bama is fine.
Thinking Notre Dame should be the 3 or 4 seed is 17ing assinine. They played 2 games versus teams in the playoff (no. 7 seed Texas A&M and no. 10 seed Miami). They lost BOTH games, but you're enraged because you think ND is a 3 or 4 seed????? That is nonsense.
Notre Dame by any measure is in the top half of teams selected for the playoff. Vegas had them in the top four odds on favorites to win it all. They are a very good team right now, this is rank corruption.
 
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FlotownDawg

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This process is hurt by having the rankings revealed weekly. There would be a lot less controversy if this were the only set of rankings released.
Completely agree. They just do it so ESPN can have a weekly selection show and then can have something to talk about for a week. ESPN basically controls college football. The basketball selection committee doesn’t put out a bracket every week starting in February. It’s silly. Just release one bracket at the end of the season.
 

Perd Hapley

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Miami should have been ahead of Notre Dame all along. The only reason Notre Dame was there was they had their usual overinflated preseason ranking.
Maybe, maybe not. But the fact is…..they weren’t. And you can’t 17ing change that at the 11th hour when there is no new data available. Period.
 

85Bears

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That says it all right there. For those 5 weeks, neither team lost, and neither team beat anyone that finished ranked in the final CFP Top 25. One team moves up EIGHT spots, one somehow moves back one spot.

Straight up collusion.
Political lobbying by Miami was ridiculous, and I can’t see any way a 3 loss Bama who loses to by 14 to 5-7 FSU gets in over nd.
the argument by twitter bots “join a conference” for leaving nd out isn’t an argument but a justification for bias and corruption. Im not in any way a ND fan and don’t particularly like their administration but as a college football fan this makes the playoffs a whole lot less interesting.
 
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Trojanbulldog19

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To me bama shouldn't have been and neither should Miami. Notre dame needs to join a conference and stop bitchin.

To me acc should have had no teams in it at all. Miami should have been left out. If your conf champ doesn't make it then none of the teams should in my logic. Conference champ was 8-5.

All these rematches suck too.
 

Perd Hapley

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The mistake is thinking the rankings mean anything before selection Sunday. They clearly aren’t as important as we’d like to believe.

ETA: If ND doesn’t like it, they only have themselves to blame. Join a conference. This is the cost of being independent. You aren’t bigger than the sport.
For years, I’ve said everything you just said about ND needing to join a conference. So, I get it.

But, the facts are that ND played a tougher schedule than Miami did without joining a conference. And Miami wasn’t good enough to win its conference to get an autobid, or even good enough to play for the title in one of the worst leagues in the country.

So, that argument really has no merit here.
 
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Villagedawg

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That says it all right there. For those 5 weeks, neither team lost, and neither team beat anyone that finished ranked in the final CFP Top 25. One team moves up EIGHT spots, one somehow moves back one spot.

Straight up collusion.
Point taken, but it’s a committee. By definition it’s collusion. That’s the point of having a committee. No matter what you do as long as it’s a poll, writers, ADs, 3rd grade boys on the playground, it doesn’t matter, you will have controversy. Until it’s just win loss on the field in a standardized schedule this is what you have. A ******** system.
 

85Bears

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What’s funny is they trot that horses @SS Yurachek out there to take all the arrows as the fall guy, while espn execs behind the scenes are engaged in all kinds of 17ery. Transparent my arse.

this stuff makes our corrupt political system seem pristine.
 

OG Goat Holder

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Are some of you REALLY arguing that leaving 17ING NOTRE DAME out was some form of corruption? They have the most power of anybody in the country. Even Bama.

They notoriously get the benefit of the doubt. Is it right this year? Eh, no, probably not. I don’t like using H2H because not everybody plays. But shlt happens, and neither one can realistically win this playoff. So who cares.
 
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Villagedawg

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So the first round features two sure blowouts with one being a rematch blowout. Another rematch, and the Sugar Bowl will be a rematch to boot. Compelling!
 

She Mate Me

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Thinking Notre Dame should be in over Bama is fine.
Thinking Notre Dame should be the 3 or 4 seed is 17ing assinine. They played 2 games versus teams in the playoff (no. 7 seed Texas A&M and no. 10 seed Miami). They lost BOTH games, but you're enraged because you think ND is a 3 or 4 seed????? That is nonsense.

They're not a 3 or 4 seed, but they're clearly one of the Top 10 teams in the country and capable of winning it all.

Those kind of teams aren't supposed to be left out of a 17'n 12 team playoff.
 
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Dawgzilla2

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The mistake is thinking the rankings mean anything before selection Sunday. They clearly aren’t as important as we’d like to believe.
This is why I dont pay much attention to the CFP rankings until the regular season is over. I dont watch the selection shows, but they used to say the committee starts from scratch every week. So the prior rankings tell you very little.

I've always thought the committee did a pretty good job. Last season the automatic byes were the problem, but that wasn't the committee's fault. Is like to think they dont pay attention to conference affiliations....but the do need the conferences to approve the system, so maybe they threw the ACC a bone.

I dont know why no one is talking about BYU. I dont think BYU deserves a bid, but their two losses are both to Texas Tech. Last week they were #11. Last week doesn't matter, but it sure seems like BYU is being punished for losing their conference championship.
 

85Bears

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Herbstreit, espn(sec) employee predicting Bama wouldn’t drop, about all you have to know.