What fallout of the Big Beautiful Bill will be the funniest?

Allornothing

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X congregates news sources. Ever seen a clip from Fox News on X? MSNBC? CNN? ABC NEWS? NBC? ESPN? Large sources, small sources, they are all there.

X is where it gets talked about, perhaps you don't like the opinions on X and that is OK. But let's not act like X is one singular news source. That is nonsensical.
"That is nonsensical."

You ever saw a liberal/socialist/communist make sense?
 
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johnhugh

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Ah yes, the usual rage-fueled fantasy thread. Let’s break it down.

No, Trump supporters aren’t getting kicked off Medicaid. That’s fiction.
No, disabled children aren’t dying en masse because of policy. That’s emotional manipulation, not a fact.
ICE is not rounding up legal citizens for speaking freely. That’s paranoid delusion, not reality.
And the economy? Nice try... inflation, interest rates, and economic anxiety skyrocketed under the last administration you probably voted for.

As for “small government ballooning spending,” let me guess... you were totally silent when trillions were spent on COVID pork bills, Ukraine aid, and bloated bureaucracies under Democrat leadership. Spare us the faux fiscal outrage.

Crops rotting? Maybe stop supporting open borders and start supporting legal work programs. Science and innovation declining? Maybe because the left is more obsessed with gender quotas than actual merit and achievement.

You rant about “Christian values” while supporting abortion up to birth and castration of children in the name of identity. You invoke patriotism while waving flags of division, censorship, and state control.

You think you’re speaking truth to power. You’re just parroting headlines you didn’t fact-check. You wanted chaos, division, and control. You got it... and now you’re projecting the mess onto the very people trying to clean it up.

So no, this isn’t MAGA’s fault. This is what happens when emotion replaces truth, and virtue signals drown out reality.

Own that.
 

UrHuckleberry

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you do understand the Reps supported civil rights even more than the dems? You also understand Thurmond was the only Dixiecrat that changed party also? The racist have always been and still are on the left....
Would you say Klan members are more likely to vote Dem?
 

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Would you say Klan members are more likely to vote Dem?
Ever heard of Robert Byrd? 20 of the 29 Klan members in congress, senate and federal judgeships were democrats. That hopefully answers that for you. 2/3. There’s two groups of people that want race to determine your success in life - democrats and white supremacists. That’s ironic.
 
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What about this @johnhugh ???



You guys watched Gangs of New York and thought Bill the Butcher was the good guy, didn't you.
 

MTTiger19

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Sure it does. See David Duke (R)
There’s many more Democrats. In all honesty it is one thing the KKK and liberals have in common. They are both obsessed with race and believe race should determine outcomes. That’s a fact brother. You will not find a bigger advocate for race based hiring and acceptance than liberals and klansmen. Tell me I’m lying.
 

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Ever heard of Robert Byrd? 20 of the 29 Klan members in congress, senate and federal judgeships were democrats. That hopefully answers that for you. 2/3. There’s two groups of people that want race to determine your success in life - democrats and white supremacists. That’s ironic.
You think any white supremicist in modern day are voting Democrat?
 
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You think any white supremicist in modern day are voting Democrat?
100%. Democrats support race based policies. White supremicists support race based policies. It’s no different than the argument liberals are making for deporting illegals. They keep claiming that they’re coming for Americans next right? Same thing. In other words, that law can be used by whoever is in power to do what they want. So using liberal logic, a white supremicist could use the precedent set by liberals of race based hiring to EXCLUDE POC. Promoting or demoting based on race is a democrat policy, not a republican or conservative one, they would be aligned with democrats, the smart ones that could abuse power anyway.
 
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100%. Democrats support race based policies. White supremicists support race based policies. It’s no different than the argument liberals are making for deporting illegals. They keep claiming that they’re coming for Americans next right? Same thing. In other words, that law can be used by whoever is in power to do what they want. So using liberal logic, a white supremicist could use the precedent set by liberals of race based hiring to EXCLUDE POC. Promoting or demoting based on race is a democrat policy, not a republican or conservative one, they would be aligned with democrats, the smart ones that could abuse power anyway.
Wht a stupid take...

"David Duke, the former grand wizard of the white supremacist group, has repeatedly voiced his support for Trump. In July, Duke endorsed Trump and also suggested the president should select Fox News host Tucker Carlson as his running mate.

"Trump & Tucker is the only way to stop the commie Bolsheviks! It is the only path to beat them! #TrumpTucker2020," Duke tweeted. The former KKK leader was later banned from Twitter."

"Ahead of the 2016 presidential election, a prominent KKK newspaper—The Crusader—voiced support for Trump's candidacy. However, Pastor Thomas Robb, who wrote a glowing article expressing optimism about Trump's candidacy for the publication, told The Washington Post that the paper was not formally endorsing his campaign.

"It's not an endorsement because, like anybody, there's things you disagree with. But he kind of reflects what's happening throughout the world. There seems to be a surge of nationalism worldwide as nationals reclaim their borders," Robb said at the time."

 

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100%. Democrats support race based policies. White supremicists support race based policies. It’s no different than the argument liberals are making for deporting illegals. They keep claiming that they’re coming for Americans next right? Same thing. In other words, that law can be used by whoever is in power to do what they want. So using liberal logic, a white supremicist could use the precedent set by liberals of race based hiring to EXCLUDE POC. Promoting or demoting based on race is a democrat policy, not a republican or conservative one, they would be aligned with democrats, the smart ones that could abuse power anyway.
lol wut
 

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That’s what I say when you start crying about concentration camps Francis. And that Atlanta is 100% covered with gay supporters. Lol. My points are factual unlike your hypersensitive nonsense.

You have that big brain. Show me one sentence in my post that’s not factual.
Democrats support race based policies. White supremicists support race based policies.
 
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That’s what I say when you start crying about concentration camps Francis. And that Atlanta is 100% covered with gay supporters. Lol. My points are factual unlike your hypersensitive nonsense.

You have that big brain. Show me one sentence in my post that’s not factual.
Democrats support race based policies. White supremicists support race based policies.
Just because those last two sentences are true does not mean that democrats are white supremacists
 

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Sure it does. See David Duke (R)
Wow. I haven't heard that name in 15-20 years (probably most anyone else hasn't either). You've certainly been living under a rock.

Also, I think it's pretty rich you're coming in this strong about any issue with an avatar of a sexual predator.
 
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Do you really believe this socialist garbage you spout. It may be your dream for American but it will never happen. This country is conservative, Christian whether you like it or not and people are turning to our side. You and your ilk are losing. Get over yourself!
Was* your majority brainwashed is shrinking every year. God willing by the end of my life the majority of Americans won’t believe in a book of tales
 
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Over $1 billion dollars are spent each year on emergency care for illegal immigrants. $1 billion is not the total cost to the program however as many left states have not adhered to the program requirements around identity checks. Therefore, illegals immigrants are being signed up for Medicaid even though they shouldn’t qualify.

Currently, data suggests only 30% of all undocumented immigrants may have private insurance or employer insurance (but they shouldn’t even be working….). That leaves 70% “without” insurance - use some logic.

States like CA and Oregon (no surprise here) decided to make state provisions for full Medicare for undocumented immigrants. No wonder those states are a **** show. This affects the ability for proper timely care to the legal population as millions take up emergency room and physician access.

There’s so much more data but I’m just wasting my time with people who have a socialist mindset.
Where was all this I give a **** about care standards during COVID? You guys seemed happy to spread it and increase the hospital load and wait and quality of care then. Now, when it comes to something almost word for word from your favorite book of magic you’re all out. Shocked.

Now do Ukraine.
 

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Ya
Just because those last two sentences are true does not mean that democrats are white supremacists
So you agree they have identical policy beliefs yet don’t see how that’s the same. It’s promotion of a group based on skin color. It’s all the same bro.
 

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Amazing you would post this. If that man's healthcare/medication runs $20,000 a month, you medical folks need to fix it. You could.

I'm sure you're not willing to take a cut in pay for your services though. Everyone else should do it, and pay for it. Your new name is Big Bird to me.
I knew my stalker BigTimeTiger just got a new handle

Also, I would gladly take a pay cut if it meant none of my patients ever had to not have a needed procedure or couldn’t take a needed medication due to cost. Do you know what it’s like to see a man who is an otherwise healthy person have to forego his prostate cancer medication because he can’t afford the $1,500 a month for it? Working in healthcare either turns you into a cynically crass ******* or it shows you just how many people are one missed paycheck or flat tire away from financial ruin.

This bill does nothing to help those living on the edge of poverty
 
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Trump supporters getting kicked off Medicaid?

Disabled children dying?

Great Depression 2.0?

Gestapo ICE in the streets detaining legal, American citizens for exercising their free speech rights?

The party of small government ballooning government spending?

Crops rotting in the fields as ICE deports all migrant workers?

Decline in American science and technical innovation due to loss of student visas?

Blows my mind how any mentally competent, patriotic, compassionate, Christian American could support this garbage. Yet here we are in the upside down

Just remember MAGA dolts, you voted for this. You wanted this **** show. This. Is. All. Your. Fault.

When nothing Neo-Nostradamus @johnhugh predicts happens AS USUAL will you clap for the greatest presidential job being done for this country

Trump is the MAN
 
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What you are doing is twisting what I'm saying into these 4 bullet points.
What I want you to understand is more of our tax dollars are going to ICE now than any other single police force. You want to talk about the number of people they hire.... why? ICE agents are doing no knock raids right now across the united states, not at the boarder all over the place. That is a police force and its the largest funded police force now. I don't know what you think you are arguing, you seem to think this isn't a police state and thats your whole point. Lets agree that is a definition debate and go from there.

police state:
  1. A state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic, and political life of the people, especially by means of a secret police force.
  2. A nation or state whose government exercises strict and repressive control of the people, by means of police.
  3. A country that maintains repressive control over the people by means of police (especially secret police).

You posted three versions of the definition... all centered on one theme: repressive control of the people, i.e. citizens, via policing.

So if your argument is that ICE targeting non-citizens for immigration enforcement = “repressive control of the people,” that’s a serious stretch. Is the system flawed? Arguably. Is it overfunded? Possibly. But is it a police state by the very definitions you shared? No.
 

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This bill does nothing to help those living on the edge of poverty

Once again... you either have a massive misunderstanding of the actual bill, are intentionally being disingenuous, or are a useful idiot.

Yes, the bill includes reductions to projected Medicaid spending over time, particularly by tightening eligibility and work requirements in some states. That’s a legitimate concern. But this isn’t a wholesale gutting of the program... Medicaid still remains fully intact as a safety net. The goal (whether you agree or not) was to control long-term costs and promote workforce participation, not eliminate access for those truly in need.

This bill didn’t expand Medicare’s drug price negotiation powers... but that’s because those reforms were already passed under the Inflation Reduction Act. Medicare can now negotiate prices on key drugs starting in 2026. Insulin is capped at $35/month for seniors. And out-of-pocket costs for Medicare recipients will be capped at $2,000/year starting in 2025.

The bill also funds expansion of clinics and telehealth in underserved areas, helping low-income and rural Americans access care more easily. That may not grab headlines... but for the “edge of poverty” population, access to nearby or affordable care is a real win.

You can fairly argue that this bill didn’t do enough to lower healthcare costs or expand Medicaid... but to claim it did “nothing” is just false. It preserves core healthcare programs, builds on recent drug cost reforms, and targets access issues in underserved areas.

If we want smarter healthcare policy, we have to stop debating in absolutes and start working from facts.
 

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I knew my stalker BigTimeTiger just got a new handle

Also, I would gladly take a pay cut if it meant none of my patients ever had to not have a needed procedure or couldn’t take a needed medication due to cost. Do you know what it’s like to see a man who is an otherwise healthy person have to forego his prostate cancer medication because he can’t afford the $1,500 a month for it? Working in healthcare either turns you into a cynically crass ******* or it shows you just how many people are one missed paycheck or flat tire away from financial ruin.

This bill does nothing to help those living on the edge of poverty
"Also, I would gladly take a pay cut".

So, on top of everything else, you're a liar to boot? You have no intention of taking a pay cut. You want to keep your lifestyle and have every one else that is not you, pay for it.

Why is any type of medication, for any illness $1500 a month? I've got a good idea why, and it's called GREED.
 

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"Also, I would gladly take a pay cut".

So, on top of everything else, you're a liar to boot? You have no intention of taking a pay cut. You want to keep your lifestyle and have every one else that is not you, pay for it.

Why is any type of medication, for any illness $1500 a month? I've got a good idea why, and it's called GREED.
Stupid argument

Why don't Trump and the oligarchs take a pay cut so we don't have to defund healthcare? I've got a good idea why, and it's called GREED.

If you don't have a problem with that sit your butt down and STFU
 

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You people are completely detached from reality SMH

Ku Klux Klan newspaper declares support for Trump​

Of course they did. They want people to vote against Trump. Trump has policy's that help people of color. All the rot in the hood is a result of leftist. MLK and Malcolm X warned everybody about you leftist white demons. There is a very good reason MLK was a Rep and hated the Dems...