What good is a mask if a coach lowers it 25% of the time when he's yelling at his players?

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This is very true, and also the problem. Being bullied into compliance is the new standard and very few resist. It's downright scary how quickly our leaders have turned people against each other with neither side really knowing what is scientifically best. It's great insight into how things played out in the 1930s and 40s.

Well, this thread is probably going to get moved. This is political bait. Don't do it, people! Don't say anything.

Just move along...move along.
 
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It doesn’t do any good, it’s all for show. Cal and these players are in close quarters all the time not on TV.

It’s like the bench situation. These guys are inches apart all week in practice but the chairs are 6 feet apart on the sidelines. Makes no sense, but makes the media happy.
This virus escaped from a level 4 biohaz lab in China.. do you actually think a little piece of cloth is going to protect you?
 

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Or when the players have it off while they're playing and touching/sweating on the exact same basketball?


Help me understand. I'm trying to be a good little modernist and "follow the science."

Spot on. This mask nonsense is insulting if you take 30 seconds to think it through. Cal lowers it to scream at the top of his lungs; he then covers up when he’s zipping his lips. Just one example of this absurdity.
 

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I think the masks work. There are studies on both sides that “prove” they do or “prove” they don’t. No one is winning that argument.

So far, I haven’t gotten it and the only people I know who have had it got it from exposure to someone without a mask.

I am a teacher and have been teaching in person classes. I have had students test positive that I have been in the classroom with. We are required to wear masks all day except for lunch (and I eat by myself in my room) and to get a sip of water.

I am not saying the masks work or not, but I am not taking chances. If they don’t work, then big whoop, I haven’t lost anything from doing it. I haven’t hurt anyone by doing it.

But if they do work, I might be saving a life other than mine. Also, I make other people feel better and more comfortable. I am a servant to my fellow man, so I will wear one to possibly save others and maybe save myself along the way.

Who am I hurting by wearing one? Just me and I don’t matter as much as my brothers and sisters.

Who am I hurting by not wearing one? Maybe everyone around me, including myself.

I just can’t take that chance.

To each their own, just don’t breathe on me please. Your freedom ends when you endanger me.
 

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I think the masks work. There are studies on both sides that “prove” they do or “prove” they don’t. No one is winning that argument.

So far, I haven’t gotten it and the only people I know who have had it got it from exposure to someone without a mask.

I am a teacher and have been teaching in person classes. I have had students test positive that I have been in the classroom with. We are required to wear masks all day except for lunch (and I eat by myself in my room) and to get a sip of water.

I am not saying the masks work or not, but I am not taking chances. If they don’t work, then big whoop, I haven’t lost anything from doing it. I haven’t hurt anyone by doing it.

But if they do work, I might be saving a life other than mine. Also, I make other people feel better and more comfortable. I am a servant to my fellow man, so I will wear one to possibly save others and maybe save myself along the way.

Who am I hurting by wearing one? Just me and I don’t matter as much as my brothers and sisters.

Who am I hurting by not wearing one? Maybe everyone around me, including myself.

I just can’t take that chance.

To each their own, just don’t breathe on me please. Your freedom ends when you endanger me.


That freedom part used to work before it became so subjective...

When did it become everyone else's responsibility to protect you instead of your own? You can take many steps to protect yourself without making everyone else conform to your idea "safe". That word is being thrown out a lot these days to justify actions that would otherwise be unjustifiable in our society...
 

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That freedom part used to work before it became so subjective...

When did it become everyone else's responsibility to protect you instead of your own? You can take many steps to protect yourself without making everyone else conform to your idea "safe". That word is being thrown out a lot these days to justify actions that would otherwise be unjustifiable in our society...

So do you refuse to wear your seatbelt? That is much more restrictive to your freedom. I think it is ridiculous that people go along with wearing seatbelts yet throw a fit about masks. Not wearing your seatbelt could hurt you and only you. Not wearing a mask could hurt others around you.

We have been conditioned to conform to seatbelts, though.

It’s silly if you think about it. If it’s about freedom, then protest seatbelts not masks. There is a law restricting you making you wear a seatbelt in a moving vehicle. There is a fine for it. Yet people conform to that, but cite the Constitution if someone asks you to put on a mask in a crowded store. Makes little sense to me, but that’s true for a lot of things these days.
 

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Why I have no problem wearing a mask alot of with the coach its political correct the players when they play and guarding each other are up close and personal just think of all the germs spreading.
 

bucsrule8872

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Why I have no problem wearing a mask alot of with the coach its political correct the players when they play and guarding each other are up close and personal just think of all the germs spreading.

I agree, it’s a public service announcement basically.
 
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Trying to give a scientific answer and a practical answer:

Cal and the players share a bubble/circle. Cal isn't going to give them COVID, and they aren't going to give it to him.
So you're really just trying to prevent spread from someone you aren't in contact with. Which would be the other team/the referees. So to that end, Cal really just needs the mask up when someone not on UK's team/staff is within 6 feet.

This becomes muddied by the fact that the players are literally on top of eachother. The refs probably keep a good distance for most of the game, but are surely close at times.

Everyone has pretty rigorous testing and should be clear of COVID. For the most part, I think the masks are moreso for show and legal purposes. They don't want to get sued saying they didn't require masks and kids got COVID. I also think there's some degree of trying to have the coaches be positive examples of wearing masks.
Also, problem is that I doubt the players, coaches, athletic medicine staff, etc. (and the other people they come in contact with) are doing nothing but sitting at home and going to work. At some point these people have to leave their home and work location to do something, like get gas for their car, for example.
 
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I think the masks work. There are studies on both sides that “prove” they do or “prove” they don’t. No one is winning that argument.

So far, I haven’t gotten it and the only people I know who have had it got it from exposure to someone without a mask.

I am a teacher and have been teaching in person classes. I have had students test positive that I have been in the classroom with. We are required to wear masks all day except for lunch (and I eat by myself in my room) and to get a sip of water.

I am not saying the masks work or not, but I am not taking chances. If they don’t work, then big whoop, I haven’t lost anything from doing it. I haven’t hurt anyone by doing it.

But if they do work, I might be saving a life other than mine. Also, I make other people feel better and more comfortable. I am a servant to my fellow man, so I will wear one to possibly save others and maybe save myself along the way.

Who am I hurting by wearing one? Just me and I don’t matter as much as my brothers and sisters.

Who am I hurting by not wearing one? Maybe everyone around me, including myself.

I just can’t take that chance.

To each their own, just don’t breathe on me please. Your freedom ends when you endanger me.
Nearly every single person I screen at work who says they were exposed to COVID but weren't wearing a mask at the time of exposure has tested positive for COVID. Conversely, nearly every single person I screen at work who says they were exposed but were wearing a mask at the time of exposure has tested negative for COVID.
 
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Also, problem is that I doubt the players, coaches, athletic medicine staff, etc. (and the other people they come in contact with) are doing nothing but sitting at home and going to work. At some point these people have to leave their home and work location to do something, like get gas for their car, for example.

I think you can get gas, groceries, etc. and stay pretty safe.

Stay away from people and wash your hands. It's doable.

If you're going to a bunch of gatherings/parties/etc, you're going to have a harder time.
 
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And no one is granted the freedom to wear or not wear a mask, please cite the state or national constitutional amendment pertaining to rights for face masks.
 

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So do you refuse to wear your seatbelt? That is much more restrictive to your freedom. I think it is ridiculous that people go along with wearing seatbelts yet throw a fit about masks. Not wearing your seatbelt could hurt you and only you. Not wearing a mask could hurt others around you.

We have been conditioned to conform to seatbelts, though.

It’s silly if you think about it. If it’s about freedom, then protest seatbelts not masks. There is a law restricting you making you wear a seatbelt in a moving vehicle. There is a fine for it. Yet people conform to that, but cite the Constitution if someone asks you to put on a mask in a crowded store. Makes little sense to me, but that’s true for a lot of things these days.


There is a fine for it, but its an apples to oranges comparison. People don't wear seatbelts all of the time and are never caught and also don't have to worry about regular citizens calling them out and being complete idiots about it. It is a law I disagree with however outside of making sure parents ensure children are strapped up. As an adult, I 100% believe it's up to the individual and it pretty much still is. If you stopped 100 consecutive cars, I'd be willing to bet a large % aren't wearing it.

Masks on the other hand are being policed everywhere you go by people with authority, and worse, people without. It has turned people against each other and destroyed social interaction, among other things.

If I go out without a mask, im now looked at as evil and a downright bad person who wants to kill others. So it goes beyond it just being a law. If I don't wear a seatbelt, no one cares and I may get a $25 dollar fine on the 1 in a million chance I get pulled over.
 
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I think you can get gas, groceries, etc. and stay pretty safe.

Stay away from people and wash your hands. It's doable.

If you're going to a bunch of gatherings/parties/etc, you're going to have a harder time.
WHile generally true, what if someone with COVID was coughing all over the place when they got gas and got COVID particles all over the pump?

You touch the pump, you got the COVID particles all over your hands. Then before you're done pumping gas your nose starts itching, and without thinking, you scratch your nose and you breath in the COVID particles. Now you may get COVID. Not likely, but possible.
 

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WHile generally true, what if someone with COVID was coughing all over the place when they got gas and got COVID particles all over the pump?

You touch the pump, you got the COVID particles all over your hands. Then before you're done pumping gas your nose starts itching, and without thinking, you scratch your nose and you breath in the COVID particles. Now you may get COVID. Not likely, but possible.


Good God please stop being so ridiculous. This is a germaphobe paradise...
 
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Nearly every single person I screen at work who says they were exposed to COVID but weren't wearing a mask at the time of exposure has tested positive for COVID. Conversely, nearly every single person I screen at work who says they were exposed but were wearing a mask at the time of exposure has tested negative for COVID.


That's funny, my work requires every person to wear a mask at all times, and the infection rate pretty much matches the national average. So maybe, just maybe, such a small personal sample size means nothing...
 
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That's funny, my work requires every person to wear a mask at all times, and the infection rate pretty much matches the national average. So maybe, just maybe, such a small personal sample size means nothing...
But are they wearing it correctly all the time at work and are they wearing it correctly (if at all) when they are out in public outside of work?
 

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Coach Cal and other coaches pulling their masks down is OK. Because Covid is defeated on the court by the coin toss that starts the game.

Scientific fact: The :01 jump ball to start a game is much more likely to spread Covid than 10 players in close contact on the court for 39:59 minutes.

Learn science! Stop the spread! Wear a mask that doesn’t fit and wear it on your chin!

#HelpStopTheJumpBallVirus
 

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"Articles on SWPRS.org are often based on what the site presents as self-conducted studies, which however do not meet scientific standards and lack proper method and evidence to support conclusions."
The mental gymnastics here are AMAZING! Rate controlled trials are the gold standard for a study. So far the only ones on masks have found: THEY DONT WORK. I don't care the news has made everyone a *****. Almost a year into this. You corona fans are laughable.
 
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There is a fine for it, but its an apples to oranges comparison. People don't wear seatbelts all of the time and are never caught and also don't have to worry about regular citizens calling them out and being complete idiots about it. It is a law I disagree with however outside of making sure parents ensure children are strapped up. As an adult, I 100% believe it's up to the individual and it pretty much still is. If you stopped 100 consecutive cars, I'd be willing to bet a large % aren't wearing it.

Masks on the other hand are being policed everywhere you go by people with authority, and worse, people without. It has turned people against each other and destroyed social interaction, among other things.

If I go out without a mask, im now looked at as evil and a downright bad person who wants to kill others. So it goes beyond it just being a law. If I don't wear a seatbelt, no one cares and I may get a $25 dollar fine on the 1 in a million chance I get pulled over.

Put yourself in other people’s shoes, can you really blame me for giving you a “dirty look” when you could potentially be giving me and my family members a disease that could kill us just because you don’t feel like wearing a mask?

I understand you don’t want to be controlled or be a sheep or whatever, just do me a favor and stay clear of me and I will stay clear of you. You see me in the store with a mask, just stay away and be considerate of others. I won’t breathe on you if you don’t breathe on me.
 

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Put yourself in other people’s shoes, can you really blame me for giving you a “dirty look” when you could potentially be giving me and my family members a disease that could kill us just because you don’t feel like wearing a mask?

I understand you don’t want to be controlled or be a sheep or whatever, just do me a favor and stay clear of me and I will stay clear of you. You see me in the store with a mask, just stay away and be considerate of others. I won’t breathe on you if you don’t breathe on me.


That's funny you say things like that because I can't remember a time in my life I just randomly started breathing on someone or they breathed on me. I stay away from people I don't know naturally as most do. It's not normal behavior to go up to random strangers and breath on them, covid or not.

You are well within your rights to protect yourself as you see fit. You can wear a mask, goggles, gloves, or even a space suit. Literally no one cares. It becomes a problem when you start telling people they can't work, go to school, see their family, etc just because you want to feel safe.

This mask thing becomes even more ridiculous because almost no one is wearing an actual mask. They are wearing "face coverings", which do absolutely nothing to protect anyone from a virus floating through the air. Its nothing more than a placebo effect that seems to be working wonders for people like you....or maybe not...
 

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That's funny you say things like that because I can't remember a time in my life I just randomly started breathing on someone or they breathed on me. I stay away from people I don't know naturally as most do. It's not normal behavior to go up to random strangers and breath on them, covid or not.

You are well within your rights to protect yourself as you see fit. You can wear a mask, goggles, gloves, or even a space suit. Literally no one cares. It becomes a problem when you start telling people they can't work, go to school, see their family, etc just because you want to feel safe.

This mask thing becomes even more ridiculous because almost no one is wearing an actual mask. They are wearing "face coverings", which do absolutely nothing to protect anyone from a virus floating through the air. Its nothing more than a placebo effect that seems to be working wonders for people like you....or maybe not...

Then we are good. I respect your right not to wear them as long as you stay away from me.

And for every study that says that masks/coverings don’t work there is one that says that they do.

I don’t know if they work or not and neither do you. I err on the side of caution just in case they do work.

I’ll take my chances doing something that doesn’t hurt me rather than doing something that might harm others.

It’s not political to me. It’s just trying to do the right thing.

I won’t change your mind set, I won’t change yours, so I guess we agree to disagree.

God bless you. I pray you don’t get sick and I hope you’ll do the same for me.
 

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The mental gymnastics here are AMAZING! Rate controlled trials are the gold standard for a study. So far the only ones on masks have found: THEY DONT WORK. I don't care the news has made everyone a *****. Almost a year into this. You corona fans are laughable.

lol. Okay.

Good luck out there.