What is going on with football recruiting?

[18IsTheMan]

I've heard almost nothing about recruiting for the 2025 class. By mid-April last year, we had 8 commits. which was half of our total class. That was an anomaly and we really cooled off after that, but we usually start to see some commitments roll in around April-June or so. Right now all we have is Lanoris' younger brother. But beyond that, I just haven't heard any chatter. There's usually stuff floating around about us being in the mix for this or that recruit. I'm just not hearing anything. Are we in the mix for anyone notable? There's the QB from Ohio, Montgomery. At one point, we were allegedly in the mix for Griffin, but he's a UGA lock now. Doesn't look like any 5* are in the pipeline for 2025.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Well, not much, apparently, lol

 

[Big JC]

We are a WBB school. No one cares about football.

 

[Uscg1984]

 

[Spinal Tap]

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Slow start compared to last year for sure.

The Montgomery QB recruitment has become an interesting story. He has changed his plans and is moving his commitment date earlier than originally planned and now expects to commit in June. He dropped Georgia for his unofficial and says he will
visit us for the Spring game (unofficial) and take an unofficial to Florida. He will take one official to the school he commits to.

Barring any changes it looks like it's us and the reptiles.

 

[Cockypantherfan]

Addison should be joining our class later this week when he makes his commitment:

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We have a lot of highly rated visitors scheduled to visit for the spring game and our big OV weekends starting May 31 and running through June. Battling some top teams for really good talent like Zayden Walker, Jared Smith, Jontae Gilbert, Shamari Earls, Tavion Wallace, Ryan Montgomery, Lagonza Hayward, Cortez Smith, Kevin Wynn, Jadon Blair, Nathaniel Owusu-Boateng, Jaylen Gilchrist, Derek Meadows, David Sanders.

 

[athenscock3]

I've heard almost nothing about recruiting for the 2025 class. By mid-April last year, we had 8 commits. which was half of our total class. That was an anomaly and we really cooled off after that, but we usually start to see some commitments roll in around April-June or so. Right now all we have is Lanoris' younger brother. But beyond that, I just haven't heard any chatter. There's usually stuff floating around about us being in the mix for this or that recruit. I'm just not hearing anything. Are we in the mix for anyone notable? There's the QB from Ohio, Montgomery. At one point, we were allegedly in the mix for Griffin, but he's a UGA lock now. Doesn't look like any 5* are in the pipeline for 2025.

Don't have any inside information about Montgomery but I don't know where you are getting yours. All the recruiting services still show we are very much in the running for his services and most predict usc to land him. Unfortunately, a large number of prospects in Georgia, one of our best recruiting areas, are also being heavily recruited by the instate school. That is tough competition to overcome.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Don't have any inside information about Montgomery but I don't know where you are getting yours. All the recruiting services still show we are very much in the running for his services and most predict usc to land him. Unfortunately, a large number of prospects in Georgia, one of our best recruiting areas, are also being heavily recruited by the instate school. That is tough competition to overcome.

Yes, I meant to indicate that Montgomery is the one recruit I know of who we are still heavily in the mix for.

 

[gamecock stock]

I think the disappointment and concern is that Shane was sold to us as being some sort of magical super duper recruiter (as opposed to having a successful Head Coaching track record to sell to the BOT and Tanner). Hopefully, it will become an "alls well that ends well" story.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I think the disappointment and concern is that Shane was sold to us as being some sort of magical super duper recruiter (as opposed to having a successful Head Coaching track record to sell to the BOT and Tanner). Hopefully, it will become an "alls well that ends well" story.

He had some good recruits during his tenure under Spurrier so maybe it had something to do with that. I'd imagine it was comparatively easy to recruit guys to come play for Spurrier.

So far under Beamer, our recruiting is about on par with where we always have been, mid-teens to low-twenties.

 

[gamecock stock]

He had some good recruits during his tenure under Spurrier so maybe it had something to do with that. I'd imagine it was comparatively easy to recruit guys to come play for Spurrier.

Spot on, my friend. I said that when Beamer's name first popped up about our opening.

 

[Prestonyte]

Center Issac Sowells (6-2 292) of Louisville has locked in official visits with who he considers to be his top four schools, and South Carolina will be the first stop this summer. Sowells will take his official with the Gamecocks the weekend of May 31st. He’ll follow that with visits to Kentucky, NC State and Miami.

 

[FootballLVR]

We are currently ranked #69 in the 247 site with ONE recruit - a 3*. But I'm sure we can coach him up.

 

[18IsTheMan]

We are currently ranked #69 in the 247 site with ONE recruit - a 3*. But I'm sure we can coach him up.

Bold strategy: focus your entire staff on coaching up one recruit.

 

[Lurker123]

I think recruiting rankings will dwindle in importance. PORTAL recruiting rankings will be our lifeblood.

 

[CWW]

I think the disappointment and concern is that Shane was sold to us as being some sort of magical super duper recruiter (as opposed to having a successful Head Coaching track record to sell to the BOT and Tanner). Hopefully, it will become an "alls well that ends well" story.

I think the NIL money and portal have really hurt Beamer and all programs that are limited in resources ($$$). When he came here…NIL and the portal did not exist. We were getting an eager coach with a wholesome personality...that could relate to young athletes. Now…money and a proven winning program is more important to a player than a scholarship or promises made by a smooth talking recruiter.

 

[gamecock stock]

I think the NIL money and portal has really hurt Beamer and all programs that are limited in resources. When he came here…NIL and the portal did not exist.

That is probably true. That being the case, Shane better have his Dad's coaching chops to make "steak out of hamburger meat". If he does not, he won't last beyond another 2 seasons. Hopefully, Shane will show that he can do more with less. If not, then if the hiring authorities have any brains at all, they will hire someone from a low-tier FBS school who has a track record of beating mid and high-tier FBS schools. Why? Because I doubt that we will ever produce enough NIL monies to beat the big boys.

Can anyone explain to me what is meant by "Average NIL" under the team recruiting rankings? Clemson has $101k average NIL. We have $22k average NIL? We have thousands of more alumni than they do. Are they graduating a boatload of Bill Gates and Warren Buffetts every year who are funding their NIL?

 

[92Pony]

......s.

Can anyone explain to me what is meant by "Average NIL" under the team recruiting rankings? Clemson has $101k average NIL. We have $22k average NIL? We have thousands of more alumni than they do. Are they graduating a boatload of Bill Gates and Warren Buffetts every year who are funding their NIL?

They're simply a freaking cult up thar. Cult members can do extreme things, especially when they all share a common goal.

 

[Lurker123]

Can anyone explain to me what is meant by "Average NIL" under the team recruiting rankings? Clemson has $101k average NIL. We have $22k average NIL? We have thousands of more alumni than they do. Are they graduating a boatload of Bill Gates and Warren Buffetts every year who are funding their NIL?

I would really like an explanation of that number. Last year, I believe we were very close to them.

But also, those numbers don't make sense to me. Rattler had a 2 million dollar deal. (I read somewhere, no link, could be wrong)

2 million is 20k divided between 100 players, so I really doubt that's our real average.

 

[Uscg1984]

I would really like an explanation of that number. Last year, I believe we were very close to them.

I really don't think there are any reliable explanations or data for those numbers. To my knowledge, NIL money is not like SEC filings that have to be publicly reported. I think folks are just making estimations and filling in narratives based on what they have heard. And most of what they have heard is probably exaggerated.

 

[FootballLVR]

I think the NIL money and portal have really hurt Beamer and all programs that are limited in resources ($$$). When he came here…NIL and the portal did not exist. We were getting an eager coach with a wholesome personality...that could relate to young athletes. Now…money and a proven winning program is more important to a player than a scholarship or promises made by a smooth talking recruiter.

How do we have limited resources? We have SEC money that most other schools don't have.

 

[Tngamecock]

Not real worried about the word commitment these days. We know the word has no meaning when you’re talking a year away. Wake me on signing day and when we sign a transfer portal guy.

 

[18IsTheMan]

How do we have limited resources? We have SEC money that most other schools don't have.

We are definitely limited when it comes to donor money. Very limited.

 

[Backyard Archer]

That is probably true. That being the case, Shane better have his Dad's coaching chops to make "steak out of hamburger meat". If he does not, he won't last beyond another 2 seasons. Hopefully, Shane will show that he can do more with less. If not, then if the hiring authorities have any brains at all, they will hire someone from a low-tier FBS school who has a track record of beating mid and high-tier FBS schools. Why? Because I doubt that we will ever produce enough NIL monies to beat the big boys.

Can anyone explain to me what is meant by "Average NIL" under the team recruiting rankings? Clemson has $101k average NIL. We have $22k average NIL? We have thousands of more alumni than they do. Are they graduating a boatload of Bill Gates and Warren Buffetts every year who are funding their NIL?

It's a dumb system that ON3 uses to try to estimate how much in NIL funds a player will get based on things like how many people follow them on social media. It has absolutely nothing to do with how much players are or will be getting. It's just clickbait to get people talking, no basis in reality.

So in the example you provided, it just shows Clemson's recruits possible NIL worth based on some formula ON3 came up with. I haven't looked at the rankings but it's safe to assume they have some higher profile recruits who have decent followings on Instagram and Twitter.

 

[CWW]

How do we have limited resources? We have SEC money that most other schools don't have.

I am talking about limited NIL sources. We can’t compete with the big wig schools.

 

[Chris Clark]

I've heard almost nothing about recruiting for the 2025 class. By mid-April last year, we had 8 commits. which was half of our total class. That was an anomaly and we really cooled off after that, but we usually start to see some commitments roll in around April-June or so. Right now all we have is Lanoris' younger brother. But beyond that, I just haven't heard any chatter. There's usually stuff floating around about us being in the mix for this or that recruit. I'm just not hearing anything. Are we in the mix for anyone notable? There's the QB from Ohio, Montgomery. At one point, we were allegedly in the mix for Griffin, but he's a UGA lock now. Doesn't look like any 5* are in the pipeline for 2025.

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[Jaykid28]

not much is going on with our recruiting

 

[Big JC]

How do we have limited resources? We have SEC money that most other schools don't have.

Two things:
1. The school and the football program cannot pay anything for NIL. All of the NIL money has to come from a collective or another outside entity.
2. The B1G schools have as much money, probably more, than the SEC schools do. Also, the top recruits are also being recruited by the other SEC schools so the money thing is a wash at best.

 

[FootballLVR]

Two things:
1. The school and the football program cannot pay anything for NIL. All of the NIL money has to come from a collective or another outside entity.
2. The B1G schools have as much money, probably more, than the SEC schools do. Also, the top recruits are also being recruited by the other SEC schools so the money thing is a wash at best.

Then explain to me how the little school in the upstate with a MUCH smaller alumni base is still getting it done.

 

[kidrobinski]

Then explain to me how the little school in the upstate with a MUCH smaller alumni base is still getting it done.

People can continue to believe that a school in the middle of nowhere attracts the athletes they always have regardless of coach and that those are subject to the same scholastic requisites as other schools; help yourself. My belief and smoke/fire evidence show they have a big head start on what’s now known as nil. Business as usual, just a bit more competition now.

 

[gamecock stock]

South Carolina has 1 four star and 2 three stars on their commitment list. Clemson has 10 four stars and 1 three star. Clemson is getting it done. I know that NIL has done us no favors. But, damn. Have to wonder if it can ever get done here. We seem to be falling further and further behind on the talent scale, not even near breathing distance of their car dust.

 

[Big JC]

Then explain to me how the little school in the upstate with a MUCH smaller alumni base is still getting it done.

To be brutally honest; they are whipping us because they have a winning tradition, a nice campus that actually looks like a college in a small town setting, top notch facilities, an impressive on campus stadium and a generous alumni and donor base.

 

[18IsTheMan]

To be brutally honest; they are whipping us because they have a winning tradition, a nice campus that actually looks like a college in a small town setting, top notch facilities, an impressive on campus stadium and a generous alumni and donor base.

They do indeed have all those things. It's a true college town.

 

[Big JC]

They do indeed have all those things. It's a true college town.

If you travel to other SEC campuses and stadiums and look at them objectively you realize Carolina leaves a lot to be desired in the eyes of a recruit. I think Carolina faces a lot of the same challenges attracting recruits that Georgia tech does when it comes to campus. Not a lot of HS kids want to live in an urban environment since most of them come from suburban or rural areas. The stadium being off campus, and not just a little off campus, has to be a real negative to overcome after a recruit has gone to other schools where the stadium is either on or immediately adjacent to campus. Columbia is a nice enough city but it definitely has no college town feeling at all.

 

[18IsTheMan]

If you travel to other SEC campuses and stadiums and look at them objectively you realize Carolina leaves a lot to be desired in the eyes of a recruit. I think Carolina faces a lot of the same challenges attracting recruits that Georgia tech does when it comes to campus. Not a lot of HS kids want to live in an urban environment since most of them come from suburban or rural areas. The stadium being off campus, and not just a little off campus, has to be a real negative to overcome after a recruit has gone to other schools where the stadium is either on or immediately adjacent to campus. Columbia is a nice enough city but it definitely has no college town feeling at all.

As much as I love USC, I've never thought the setting was great...just in downtown. Definitely doesn't give off a college town vibe. I've been in Clemson and there's something about walking across campus to the stadium on gameday. Totally different feel than WBs setting amidst all the industrial buildings on Bluff Rd. Nothing we can do about it.

 

[CAROLINA COCKTAIL]

I've heard almost nothing about recruiting for the 2025 class. I just haven't heard any chatter. There's usually stuff floating around about us being in the mix for this or that recruit. I'm just not hearing anything. Are we in the mix for anyone notable? Doesn't look like any 5* are in the pipeline for 2025.

Perhaps, you should consider yourself lucky. I'm certainly nowhere close to being impressed by anything I've read. I find it difficult to be optimistic reading the hype published about undersized, D2 portal bait. But then again, I didn't predict a winning season last year either.

Unless we screw the pooch, I don't think we can look forward to a change in leadership for another 2 or 3 years.

5 & 7. Feel Better Now???

 

[Jaykid28]

settings dont really matter too much, winning does matter. what about Miami in the 90s? stadium was located away from campus. small campus, small private school in large city.

 

[Jaykid28]

This free forum site is nothing but a bunch of arm chair QBs and negative nellys

 

[18IsTheMan]

settings dont really matter too much, winning does matter. what about Miami in the 90s? stadium was located away from campus. small campus, small private school in large city.

Unbelievably talent rich region and a legendary future HOF coach will do that.

The obstacles mentioned above are not insurmountable, but it helps if you're in of the most talent-rich states in America. That we are not and never will be.

 

[Lurker123]

This free forum site is nothing but a bunch of arm chair QBs and negative nellys

I know! They should have been happy they didn't have to travel to a bowl last season! Think of all the money saved.