Kentucky has the best of fans as well as the worst, many of them posting here. I thank the lord many of these people are not our AD, we'd wind up looking like the lsu football fiasco. If we sign stokes some of this same bunch will say 'well he is another kentucky boy, so that doesn't count'. To me he proved last year he is an excellent coach. This year all summer people were saying we can't lose Lowe, well we did and we're seeing the results. If Lowe played and just hit his average from last year we would have won the ul and unc games. I'm disappointed too, but let the season play out before hyperventilating.
What is wrong with this fan base??
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And most think they know basketball WAY more than they actually do.
I am blaming him for choosing the players on the team, not the injuries.
Said in another thread BBN BB fans are getting about on the same level as Bama, UGA, LSU, Auburn football fans.
We are not even a year and a half in to Pope era. We have significant injuries. Two of our big losses were freak shooting performances by the other teams.
Everyone needs to chill out.
We are not even a year and a half in to Pope era. We have significant injuries. Two of our big losses were freak shooting performances by the other teams.
Everyone needs to chill out.
LOL maybe some get sick of seeing "fire pope and get pearl or Oats" in December of year 2 after year 1 was a sweet 16, beat Duke, U of L, Gonzaga, UT twice, etc. Maybe they see it as blithering ignorance??
Well Pearl will never coach at UK. He’s the most corrupt guy in the sport hands down. Some of this came directly from the mouth of our former staff and coach. I am all for winning and doing anything it takes but his incidents are too deep and too many. The guy isn’t flawed he’s a creep. Might be one of the worst men to ever coach.
Don’t think many understand the volumes it speaks that a guy as good as Pearl could not do better then Auburn. He was in purgatory because he can’t pass being vetted. Once you dig into his life it’s exclusively no. I don’t think if many here understood just how bad him and his son are they’d even want him. And you can look why past I am never one to say no to great coaches who are flawed because they’re all flawed. But this guy is a special kind of ****. Auburn is verifiably the most corrupt university in the country. 100% ran by boosters. There’s a reason he was there, universities won’t touch him when he’s vetted. If UK could hire him we would have done it. If you can’t get cleared by Indiana then you won’t clear here.
Also, didn’t Alabama beat us 3 times last season, and go to the elite 8? Haven’t they been to an elite 8 and final four in the last 3 years? In what world is that on par with us? It’s not. Oats is doing this at a crappy place it’s all him, they don’t even have a good basketball NIL and he’s still doing it. No way is he not a top 5 coach in college basketball right now and primed for the UK job. I think your personality concerns are valid though, but that’s the only issue. There are no more. Don’t compare the UK job to the Alabama job. He’s doing this at Alabama, not Kansas.
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It's not freak shooting when you leave them wide open.
Freak shooting performances? More like poor defense which numerous wide open shots.
Injuries are an issue. But not having a second PG on the roster is a major issue right now and that is Popes fault.
In his last 8 games against RANKED teams (most with a full complement of players) his record is 1-7. What part about that doesn’t concern you?
We judge off of SEC Tournament and NCAA finishes; not regular season games. That’s the truth of it.
As of now, Pope has a Sweet 16 to his resume, something we had not got since 2019. Wait and see how the season ends before losing your minds. Even then, it will be futile because he’s not going anywhere after two years
As of now, Pope has a Sweet 16 to his resume, something we had not got since 2019. Wait and see how the season ends before losing your minds. Even then, it will be futile because he’s not going anywhere after two years
OP: ---> the same things that the majority of people struggle with; the inability to apply reason to thoughts before acting. The skitzophrenia exhibited over the internet reflects and amplifies this.
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Nope. This is something that started when Cals swag got many fans to buy into “only march matters” so he had excuses for losing all year. But no, at Kentucky being dominant and maintaining all of our records, head to heads, early season tournaments, all matters. Matter of fact, if you lose all of our records and standing as the best I don’t care if you win a championship. You still need to be out.We judge off of SEC Tournament and NCAA finishes; not regular season games. That’s the truth of it.
As of now, Pope has a Sweet 16 to his resume, something we had not got since 2019. Wait and see how the season ends before losing your minds. Even then, it will be futile because he’s not going anywhere after two years
You are at the goat program here. Goat programs don’t lose for a shot at the end. That’s Louisville. That’s Syracuse. That’s not Kentucky. And that crap is old and tired and isn’t going to continue.
That wasn’t a compliment. The only person that believes these BS stories you post is you.
...especially in light of Cal's last 5 years...
There's a LOT of really dumb people in RR.
Oh, I thought you were offering a compliment.
Well, I guess Jamie doesn’t like me. I’ll rise above all of that when it comes to you.
I’ll let you pick which side of my *** you get to kiss. Bye Jamie.
I'd say Acaden Lewis deserves some blame for this. Apparently he didn't want to be here unless he could be the only true PG on the roster.
OP, the bigger question was whether or not the UNC game was winnable. It was.
So was the Louisville game.
So was the Sweet Sixteen game against Tennessee last year.
Pope had enough talent to win each of those games. He lost them all.
That's the issue.
So was the Louisville game.
So was the Sweet Sixteen game against Tennessee last year.
Pope had enough talent to win each of those games. He lost them all.
That's the issue.
Pope is not a good recruiter. So it's not just giving up on this current travesty of a product. It's giving up on the clear path ahead of us in our future next year. Almost all of these guys will be back next year. That's not a good thing, based on how poorly they've performed.
Do people even read your shite posts anymore?Lmao! You speaking in absolutes for strangers disqualifies you.. Common sense and you even said it out loud. LoL!
I blame Mitch Barnhart before I blame coach Pope. He has made some Silly decisions if you ask me.
Even if Coach Pope is not a good recruiter, you can more than make up for it with creating team chemistry and determination.
That and the need to take the view that will get them the most attention.
Not when you are 12 deep and you play basketball like an AAU team.... 8 assist and 9 turnovers for millions of dollars.
Of course your narcissism would translate that as a compliment. You post these BS stories looking for admiration to feed your ego. You are one strange dude Morg.
Yeah, I assure you no one thinks about regular season games if you make Final Fours. Not one person gives a single crap about the regular season as long as you go far in March. It’s why 2014 is now considered a great year.
You might care about records as bragging points to other fan bases but it’s not really a thing for others and no one is firing a guy because they lost to UNC and Louisville early in the season. It’s about SEC Tournament and NCAA Tournament wins.
You guys are just super emotional and unreasonable right now. You can acknowledge that they aren’t good but you talk about wanting to fire a guy because he lost some OOC games in November and December then that’s the absurdity that makes our fan base deserved to be mocked.
Dude be forreal. Him playing here means nothing when he’s losing like this. He didn’t deserve the job to begin with. He’s done nothing in his career to make you believe he can turn it around and damn sure nothing to make you think he will win a title.
We aren’t far away from being 15 years removed from our last title. 10 years since the last final four. The patience of BBN was always going to be very low for this coach. People were ok with his first year of double digit losses and s16 but it was with the expectation that it would be his worst year here. That’s clearly out the window. So you look at next year and he’s got ZERO commitments. Hes still yet to land an elite recruit. There’s really no reason for optimism or to think next year will be any better than this one.
I don’t know what you expected from this fanbase. Our anger is justified.
We aren’t far away from being 15 years removed from our last title. 10 years since the last final four. The patience of BBN was always going to be very low for this coach. People were ok with his first year of double digit losses and s16 but it was with the expectation that it would be his worst year here. That’s clearly out the window. So you look at next year and he’s got ZERO commitments. Hes still yet to land an elite recruit. There’s really no reason for optimism or to think next year will be any better than this one.
I don’t know what you expected from this fanbase. Our anger is justified.
Some are doing it in hopes of wearing the rest of the fanbase down. Futile, like the guy on the stock board that thinks if he can get a few people on Yahoo to see, it will move the stock. lolWe judge off of SEC Tournament and NCAA finishes; not regular season games. That’s the truth of it.
As of now, Pope has a Sweet 16 to his resume, something we had not got since 2019. Wait and see how the season ends before losing your minds. Even then, it will be futile because he’s not going anywhere after two years
It’s not the case. You have a coach that won a title and spent the majority of his time losing to out of conference teams and in conference rivals, that title isn’t going to save him. Tubby had a title and a slew of elite 8’s, we called him “10 loss Tubby” and he was known for that not his championship. So we already know you’re very wrong here. Now you might not care but this fanbase and most other great programs’ fan bases do.
Emotional? You can pretend you not caring about wins and losses except for the end makes others emotional or irrational, but that’s not how this works. It’s how you see it but not the rest in these fanbases. And it’s not about bragging rights, it’s about maintaining prestige and being seen as a winner in the eyes of the national and recruiting. Losing tons of games but pulling off 1 good year isn’t a good look and nobody wants that.
Coach fans absolutely don’t care about losing. It’s about spending the year making excuses as a means to hold on. Not saying you’re one of those but it’s a common theme with some. For the record I’m in with Mark Pope still, I just think the losing needs to be plugged and stopped. It’ll sink his ship. Pretty simple. We are not Syracuse and we don’t want a Boeheim. That’s what they would be.
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I’ve been a Pope supporter and still am although I am having doubts. I did see some improvement against UNC other than inability to hit outside shots. You have to give some credit to UNC, they made it a point to run every one off the 3 point line. I like Oweh finally playing closer to his potential and I saw some defensive improvement.
I just want to say if things do go south and at some point, we do need to look for another coach, right now Dusty May has impressed me far more than anyone else. They were up by “50”on Gonzaga. Absolutely insane. IU is mentally handicapped for not offering him before Michigan did.
He would easily be my top target at this point. He took FAU to the final 4 for crying out loud. Davis didn’t look like near the same player when he played for Cal last year compared to the way he played for May.
anyway it’s all pointless to talk about, but this is a message board so I guess we can
I just want to say if things do go south and at some point, we do need to look for another coach, right now Dusty May has impressed me far more than anyone else. They were up by “50”on Gonzaga. Absolutely insane. IU is mentally handicapped for not offering him before Michigan did.
He would easily be my top target at this point. He took FAU to the final 4 for crying out loud. Davis didn’t look like near the same player when he played for Cal last year compared to the way he played for May.
anyway it’s all pointless to talk about, but this is a message board so I guess we can
You make a lot of good points. Kentucky basketball fans are normally very patient, so, this is surprising.
Honestly, it is too early to just give up.
Lets see if we can turn this around and salvage the season.
Good post.
That would have meant Pope would have beaten Barnes and his veteran team 3 times in his first year, LMAO. No, the issue is absurd expectations to meet because you don't want the man here.
Pope isn’t home grown. He was at UK 2 years. Hes from the west. He is a former player and that’s great if he’s a great coach. We need a prez and AD from Kentucky so we can trust them to do everything they can to bring success. Coaches it doesn’t matter if they are uk guys. Our best coaches at UK were not from Kentucky. ADs and Presidents always. We have good talent from Kentucky. It’s not like the AD has to be some savant. An ordinary person with management experience can run the AD and make probably more money than Barney. It’s all good ole boy with Barney and Eli and stoops was part of it. He left with a 30 million dollar parachute.
pope the bottom line he. Should have never been considered for this job. As an assistant ok. But not as HC until he had taken a team to some kind of ncaaT experience. Pope didn’t win jack so he had no resume and he’s struggling. That’s insanity to continue. Pope with no resume should be on a short leash.
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Throw the OP a bone for Christ’s sakes. He’s trying.
I didn‘t have the heart to shoot him down. Truly I didn’t.
If we lose to Indiana, I will likely douse my nutsuck with kerosene, and light a match.
May seem a bit extreme, but I despise Indiana.
Having the number 1 class year after year really got us far didn’t it?