What the Hell Is Wrong With Democrats?

[m.knox]

No, the problem is fvcking Trump you crazy person.

Every damn day he gives us new reasons to be disgusted, but rather than focus on his obnoxious level of corruption, you focus on the reaction to it. If you're gobsmacked about why so many people have an angry, visceral reaction to him, maybe YOU are the problem.
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"In yet another gift to corporate criminals, President Donald Trump has reportedly used his executive authority to commute the seven-year prison sentence of a former private equity executive convicted of defrauding more than 10,000 investors of around $1.6 billion.

One victim said they lost their “whole life savings” to the scheme and are now living “check to check.” Another, who described themselves as “an elderly victim,” said they “lost a significant portion” of their retirement savings.

“This money was earmarked to help my two grandsons pay for college,” the person said. “They had tragically lost their father and needed some financial assistance. So this loss attached my entire family.”

'Shamelessly Corrupt': Trump Frees Private Equity Executive Convicted of Defrauding 10,000+ Investors | Common Dreams

President Donald Trump has reportedly used his executive authority to commute the seven-year prison sentence of a former private equity executive convicted of defrauding more than 10,000 investors.

www.commondreams.org

"President Donald Trump pardoned a former Honduran leader sentenced to prison on cocaine distribution charges, a move some Democrats say undercuts the rationale for Trump's aggressive posture toward Venezuela that includes military strikes on alleged drug boats.

Trump said Nov. 28 that he planned to pardon former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez. A White House official and Hernandez's attorney, Renato Stabile, confirmed Dec. 2 that the pardon has been issued. Stabile said Hernandez was released early Dec. 2 from a federal prison, where he was serving a 45-year sentence "for cocaine importation and related weapons offenses," according to the Justice Department

.Hernandez was convicted in March of 2024 after a three-week jury trial in New York City. He was "at the center of one of the largest and most violent drug-trafficking conspiracies in the world," helping to bring more than 400 tons of cocaine into the U.S., the Justice Department said in a news release last year after his conviction.

Federal officials said Hernandez used bribes from drug-trafficking organizations to "fuel his rise" and then provided "support and protection for his co-conspirators, allowing them to move mountains of cocaine, commit acts of violence and murder, and help turn Honduras into one of the most dangerous countries in the world."

Prosecutor Jacob Gutwillig said during Hernandez’s 2024 sentencing that the former president “corrupted and corroded Honduran government institutions” and protected the drug operation “with the full power of the state.”

Trump pardons cocaine kingpin who ruled Honduras

Trump said Nov. 28 that he planned to pardon the former Honduran leader, and a White House official confirmed Dec. 2 that the pardon had been issued.

www.usatoday.com

You are the problem. The article makes it very clear. I've made that very clear. Violent, angry, emotional, irrational... At some point you need to smarten up and listen... lol...

The problem isn't Trump. It's 80,000,000 unhinged lunatics angry about losing an election.

These last few weeks made it obvious: TDS isn’t a niche reaction, but part of a national pattern that’s changing how people think, behave and relate to their own families.

If we can’t separate emotion from interpretation, the chaos will continue.

The real emergency isn’t in Washington.

It’s in the way Americans are thinking.

 

[tigres88]

You are the problem. The article makes it very clear. I've made that very clear. Violent, angry, emotional, irrational... At some point you need to smarten up and listen... lol...

The problem isn't Trump. It's 80,000,000 unhinged lunatics angry about losing an election.

These last few weeks made it obvious: TDS isn’t a niche reaction, but part of a national pattern that’s changing how people think, behave and relate to their own families.

If we can’t separate emotion from interpretation, the chaos will continue.

The real emergency isn’t in Washington.

It’s in the way Americans are thinking.

I know your whole brand is "REEEE" dems are triggered, and you have no desire to actually engage in good faith. But I'll try and make it simple and to the point, from most liberals perspective:

- The extremist far right checklist I posted yesterday has every box checked by this administration
- I understand, and you posted, that you think the Democrats check every box of the far left extremist checklist as well.
- This is neither here nor there, as they are not in power.
- Those left of center, far left, and moderates don't like what a far right extremist administration is doing. That's just natural for those that aren't "far right extremists."
- I understand you could say that those right of center, far right, and moderates wouldn't like what a far left extremist administration would do (and I'm sure you categorize the Biden admin as such, and you'd be right. The dems lost in 2024).

It doesn't negate the fact that the majority of American's don't want extremists on either side in power. And far right extremists are in power right now, and the majority of American's don't like it. It's not TDS, it's just that the extremists won this round and people are naturally going to push back against extremism.

 

[dpic73]

You are the problem. The article makes it very clear. I've made that very clear. Violent, angry, emotional, irrational... At some point you need to smarten up and listen... lol...

The problem isn't Trump. It's 80,000,000 unhinged lunatics angry about losing an election.

These last few weeks made it obvious: TDS isn’t a niche reaction, but part of a national pattern that’s changing how people think, behave and relate to their own families.

If we can’t separate emotion from interpretation, the chaos will continue.

The real emergency isn’t in Washington.

It’s in the way Americans are thinking.

You are correct "it's in the way Americans are thinking" People like you who have blinders on while this vile POS runs this country like a brazen crime syndicate.

What do you have to say to the 10,000 victims of David Gentile's ponzi scheme, many of who lost their life's savings? Answer that! Do you have have empathy for them or are you more concerned about my justified anger that Trump gave him a pardon?

What do you have to say to the murdered victims of cocaine kingpen Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez' huge drug-trafficking organization? Do you have empathy for them or are you more concerned about my justified anger that Trump gave him a pardon?

You see, that's the problem we have here now - people like you don't give a **** how corrupt this sociopath is, you'll let him get away with anything - rape, murder, pedophilia, it doesn't matter as long as he pisses off the libs and you can make fun of them for it. That's not a me problem, that's your moral bankruptcy that we should be talking about.

Even conservative stalwarts are calling it out while the magats ignore all of it while they sing the praises of their god-like tangerine mafioso as he tortures and belittles their imaginary enemies. Because that's all that really matters, right?

Opinion
George F. Will

A sickening moral slum of an administration​

Regarding Venezuela, Ukraine and much more, Trump and his acolytes are worse than simply incompetent.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth seems to be a war criminal. Without a war. An interesting achievement.

"In 1967, novelist Gwyn Griffin published a World War II novel, “An Operational Necessity,” that 58 years later is again pertinent. According to the laws of war, survivors of a sunken ship cannot be attacked. But a German submarine captain, after sinking a French ship, orders the machine-gunning of the ship’s crew, lest their survival endanger his men by revealing where his boat is operating. In the book’s dramatic climax, a postwar tribunal examines the German commander’s moral calculus.
No operational necessity justified Hegseth’s de facto order to kill two survivors clinging to the wreckage of one of the supposed drug boats obliterated by U.S. forces near Venezuela. His order was reported by The Post from two sources (“The order was to kill everybody,” one said) and has not been explicitly denied by Hegseth. President Donald Trump says Hegseth told him that he (Hegseth) “said he did not say that.” If Trump is telling the truth about Hegseth, and Hegseth is telling the truth to Trump, it is strange that (per the Post report) the commander of the boat-destroying operation said he ordered the attack on the survivors to comply with Hegseth’s order.

Forty-four days after the survivors were killed, the four-star admiral who headed the U.S. Southern Command announced he would be leaving that position just a year into what is usually a three-year stint. He did not say why. Inferences are, however, permitted.

The killing of the survivors by this moral slum of an administration should nauseate Americans. A nation incapable of shame is dangerous, not least to itself. As the recent “peace plan” for Ukraine demonstrated.
Marco Rubio, who is secretary of state and Trump’s national security adviser, seemed to be neither when the president released his 28-point plan for Ukraine’s dismemberment. The plan was cobbled together by Trump administration and Russian officials, with no Ukrainians participating. It reads like a wish-list letter from Vladimir Putin to Santa Claus: Ukraine to cede land that Russia has failed to capture in almost four years of aggression; Russia to have a veto over NATO’s composition, peacekeeping forces in Ukraine and the size of Ukraine’s armed forces. And more.

Rubio, whose well-known versatility of convictions is perhaps not infinite, told some of his alarmed former Senate colleagues that the plan was just an opening gambit from Russia — although Trump demanded that Ukraine accept it within days. South Dakota Republican Sen. Mike Rounds, a precise and measured speaker, reported that, in a conference call with a bipartisan group of senators, Rubio said the plan was a Russian proposal: “He made it very clear to us that we are the recipients of a proposal that was delivered to one of our representatives. It is not our recommendation. It is not our peace plan.” Hours later, however, Rubio reversed himself, saying on social media that the United States “authored” the plan.

The administration’s floundering might reflect more than its characteristic incompetence. In a darkening world, systemic weaknesses of prosperous democracies are becoming clearer.
Harvard sociologist Daniel Bell’s 1976 book, “The Cultural Contradictions of Capitalism,” argued that capitalism’s success undermines capitalism’s moral and behavioral prerequisites. Affluence produces a culture of present-mindedness and laxity; this undermines thrift, industriousness, discipline and the deferral of gratification.

Today’s cultural contradictions of democracy are: Majorities vote themselves government benefits funded by deficits, which conscript the wealth of future generations who will inherit the national debt. Entitlements crowd out provisions for national security. And an anesthetizing dependency on government produces an inward-turning obliviousness to external dangers, and a flinching from hard truths.

Two weeks ago, the chief of staff of the French army said: “We have the know-how, and we have the economic and demographic strength to dissuade the regime in Moscow. What we are lacking … is the spirit which accepts that we will have to suffer if we are to protect what we are. If our country wavers because it is not ready to lose its children … or to suffer economically because the priority has to be military production, then we are indeed at risk.”
Putin has surely savored the French recoil from these words. And he has noticed that, concerning Ukraine and the attacks on boats near Venezuela, the Trump administration cannot keep its stories straight. This probably is for reasons Sir Walter Scott understood: “Oh, what a tangled web we weave,/ when first we practise to deceive!” Americans are the deceived."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/12/02/trump-hegseth-rubio-ukraine-venezuela-boats/

 

[m.knox]

I know your whole brand is "REEEE" dems are triggered, and you have no desire to actually engage in good faith. But I'll try and make it simple and to the point, from most liberals perspective:

- The extremist far right checklist I posted yesterday has every box checked by this administration
- I understand, and you posted, that you think the Democrats check every box of the far left extremist checklist as well.
- This is neither here nor there, as they are not in power.
- Those left of center, far left, and moderates don't like what a far right extremist administration is doing. That's just natural for those that aren't "far right extremists."
- I understand you could say that those right of center, far right, and moderates wouldn't like what a far left extremist administration would do (and I'm sure you categorize the Biden admin as such, and you'd be right. The dems lost in 2024).

It doesn't negate the fact that the majority of American's don't want extremists on either side in power. And far right extremists are in power right now, and the majority of American's don't like it. It's not TDS, it's just that the extremists won this round and people are naturally going to push back against extremism.

I think you missed my point. I'm talking about left or right extremism, I was talking about behaviors. For example, sometimes people walk down the street and say something like "good evening" to each other. Sometimes today people walk down the street and say something like, "F off you NAZI FASCIST C-SUCKING PERVERT." That doesn't make them an extremist. Just means they are angry and lack impulse control.

The person who wrote the article is a licensed psychotherapist in several states. He applying his professional skills and knowledge on the behavior of a subset of Americans. Do I believe that you are an extremist? No. Do I believe that your behavior has changed because Trump is president? Yes. There is a difference.

 

[dpic73]

Do I believe that your behavior has changed because Trump is president? Yes. There is a difference.

And your stance is there is no reason for it? Realllyyyy?

 

[tigres88]

I think you missed my point. I'm talking about left or right extremism, I was talking about behaviors. For example, sometimes people walk down the street and say something like "good evening" to each other. Sometimes today people walk down the street and say something like, "F off you NAZI FASCIST C-SUCKING PERVERT." That doesn't make them an extremist. Just means they are angry and lack impulse control.

The person who wrote the article is a licensed psychotherapist in several states. He applying his professional skills and knowledge on the behavior of a subset of Americans. Do I believe that you are an extremist? No. Do I believe that your behavior has changed because Trump is president? Yes. There is a difference.

I understand the article, and your view point. However, we have gotten here by thinking the worst of each other. Are some people on the left so mentally ill they are acting in that manner? Of course. Are some people who only slightly struggle with mental illness pushed over the edge (unneccesarily) by Trump and the admin? Yes.

However, you keep citing 80 Million people. This is untrue. 80 million people are not going crazy over this administration or Trump. They aren't mentally ill.

But they are pushing back. And that's normal and OK, because the majority of people don't want extremism on either side. This is why the dems lost SO MUCH support over the past decade. They went too extreme and dogmatic on their extremism.

 

[m.knox]

You are correct "it's in the way Americans are thinking" People like you who have blinders on while this vile POS runs this country like a brazen crime syndicate.

What do you have to say to the 10,000 victims of David Gentile's ponzi scheme, many of who lost their life's savings? Answer that! Do you have have empathy for them or are you more concerned about my justified anger that Trump gave him a pardon?

What do you have to say to the murdered victims of cocaine kingpen Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez' huge drug-trafficking organization? Do you have empathy for them or are you more concerned about my justified anger that Trump gave him a pardon?

You see, that's the problem we have here now - people like you don't give a **** how corrupt this sociopath is, you'll let him get away with anything - rape, murder, pedophilia, it doesn't matter as long as he pisses off the libs and you can make fun of them for it. That's not a me problem, that's your moral bankruptcy that we should be talking about.

Even conservative stalwarts are calling it out while the magats ignore all of it while they sing the praises of their god-like tangerine mafioso as he tortures and belittles their imaginary enemies. Because that's all that really matters, right?

Opinion
George F. Will

A sickening moral slum of an administration​

Regarding Venezuela, Ukraine and much more, Trump and his acolytes are worse than simply incompetent.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth seems to be a war criminal. Without a war. An interesting achievement.

"In 1967, novelist Gwyn Griffin published a World War II novel, “An Operational Necessity,” that 58 years later is again pertinent. According to the laws of war, survivors of a sunken ship cannot be attacked. But a German submarine captain, after sinking a French ship, orders the machine-gunning of the ship’s crew, lest their survival endanger his men by revealing where his boat is operating. In the book’s dramatic climax, a postwar tribunal examines the German commander’s moral calculus.
No operational necessity justified Hegseth’s de facto order to kill two survivors clinging to the wreckage of one of the supposed drug boats obliterated by U.S. forces near Venezuela. His order was reported by The Post from two sources (“The order was to kill everybody,” one said) and has not been explicitly denied by Hegseth. President Donald Trump says Hegseth told him that he (Hegseth) “said he did not say that.” If Trump is telling the truth about Hegseth, and Hegseth is telling the truth to Trump, it is strange that (per the Post report) the commander of the boat-destroying operation said he ordered the attack on the survivors to comply with Hegseth’s order.

Forty-four days after the survivors were killed, the four-star admiral who headed the U.S. Southern Command announced he would be leaving that position just a year into what is usually a three-year stint. He did not say why. Inferences are, however, permitted.

The killing of the survivors by this moral slum of an administration should nauseate Americans. A nation incapable of shame is dangerous, not least to itself. As the recent “peace plan” for Ukraine demonstrated.
Marco Rubio, who is secretary of state and Trump’s national security adviser, seemed to be neither when the president released his 28-point plan for Ukraine’s dismemberment. The plan was cobbled together by Trump administration and Russian officials, with no Ukrainians participating. It reads like a wish-list letter from Vladimir Putin to Santa Claus: Ukraine to cede land that Russia has failed to capture in almost four years of aggression; Russia to have a veto over NATO’s composition, peacekeeping forces in Ukraine and the size of Ukraine’s armed forces. And more.

Rubio, whose well-known versatility of convictions is perhaps not infinite, told some of his alarmed former Senate colleagues that the plan was just an opening gambit from Russia — although Trump demanded that Ukraine accept it within days. South Dakota Republican Sen. Mike Rounds, a precise and measured speaker, reported that, in a conference call with a bipartisan group of senators, Rubio said the plan was a Russian proposal: “He made it very clear to us that we are the recipients of a proposal that was delivered to one of our representatives. It is not our recommendation. It is not our peace plan.” Hours later, however, Rubio reversed himself, saying on social media that the United States “authored” the plan.

The administration’s floundering might reflect more than its characteristic incompetence. In a darkening world, systemic weaknesses of prosperous democracies are becoming clearer.
Harvard sociologist Daniel Bell’s 1976 book, “The Cultural Contradictions of Capitalism,” argued that capitalism’s success undermines capitalism’s moral and behavioral prerequisites. Affluence produces a culture of present-mindedness and laxity; this undermines thrift, industriousness, discipline and the deferral of gratification.

Today’s cultural contradictions of democracy are: Majorities vote themselves government benefits funded by deficits, which conscript the wealth of future generations who will inherit the national debt. Entitlements crowd out provisions for national security. And an anesthetizing dependency on government produces an inward-turning obliviousness to external dangers, and a flinching from hard truths.

Two weeks ago, the chief of staff of the French army said: “We have the know-how, and we have the economic and demographic strength to dissuade the regime in Moscow. What we are lacking … is the spirit which accepts that we will have to suffer if we are to protect what we are. If our country wavers because it is not ready to lose its children … or to suffer economically because the priority has to be military production, then we are indeed at risk.”
Putin has surely savored the French recoil from these words. And he has noticed that, concerning Ukraine and the attacks on boats near Venezuela, the Trump administration cannot keep its stories straight. This probably is for reasons Sir Walter Scott understood: “Oh, what a tangled web we weave,/ when first we practise to deceive!” Americans are the deceived."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/12/02/trump-hegseth-rubio-ukraine-venezuela-boats/

I would say what Hillary would say, "It's lost already."

You have selective empathy. For those who are murdered by recidivist criminals let free by activist judges, you don't give a damn. For those killed by illegals, you don't care. For all those trafficked across the border, you don't care. For the little kids who have gone missing, you don't care.

 

[m.knox]

And your stance is there is no reason for it? Realllyyyy?

LOL... Got you beat by 3 years dummy. And somehow we were able to contain ourselves.

Violence flares in Washington during Trump inauguration​

https://www.reuters.com/article/wor...gton-during-trump-inauguration-idUSKBN1550CW/

January 21, 20175:37 AM EST Updated January 21, 2017


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Black-clad activists among hundreds of demonstrators protesting Donald Trump's swearing-in on Friday clashed with police a few blocks from the White House, in an outburst of violence rare for an inauguration.

At least 217 people were arrested in the melees, police said.

The burst of civil disorder followed a fierce presidential campaign that ended in a stunning victory for Republican Trump over Democrat Hillary Clinton on Nov. 8 and left the country divided.

And your stance is there is no reason for it? Realllyyyy?

I understand the article, and your view point. However, we have gotten here by thinking the worst of each other. Are some people on the left so mentally ill they are acting in that manner? Of course. Are some people who only slightly struggle with mental illness pushed over the edge (unneccesarily) by Trump and the admin? Yes.

However, you keep citing 800 Million people. This is untrue. 800 million people are not going crazy over this administration or Trump. They aren't mentally ill.

But they are pushing back. And that's normal and OK, because the majority of people don't want extremism on either side. This is why the dems lost SO MUCH support over the past decade. They went too extreme and dogmatic on their extremism.

800 million are not going crazy. I agree. It's only 80 million

80 MM is hyperbole. I will settle for that. Suffice to say, it's a lot, and as the article suggested, wide spread all across America. Heck, it's hard to watch TV without someone going off.

Pushing back is fine. Political discourse is fine. Incivility, there's really no need. Madonna suggesting blowing up the white house on day 1 was a little extreme. Seems like millions agreed with her. Basically hasn't change anything.

 

[dpic73]

I would say what Hillary would say, "It's lost already."

You have selective empathy. For those who are murdered by recidivist criminals let free by activist judges, you don't give a damn. For those killed by illegals, you don't care. For all those trafficked across the border, you don't care. For the little kids who have gone missing, you don't care.

So you decided to answer with a whataboutism. Shocked I say! Everything Trump does is fine as long as you can point to some random thing that you don't like and claim I support it. Ridiculous....

Well that's where you got me all wrong. I do care about those things, a lot in fact. I strongly support law enforcement and approve of them cracking down on crime. I also support our military and believe in giving them all the tools they need, including at the border. So let's put your made-up accusation to bed - you're wrong.

You see, I'm not wedded to one terrible man so I can freely call out my side when they're wrong and if one candidate sucks, I'll vote for a different one, just like I did in the Democratic primary in 2020. And if a democratic president did the same things that Trump did, I would be disgusted and would strongly support his impeachment because my country is more important to me than one awful human being. You can't say that.

 

[dpic73]

LOL... Got you beat by 3 years dummy. And somehow we were able to contain ourselves.

Violence flares in Washington during Trump inauguration​

https://www.reuters.com/article/wor...gton-during-trump-inauguration-idUSKBN1550CW/

January 21, 20175:37 AM EST Updated January 21, 2017


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Black-clad activists among hundreds of demonstrators protesting Donald Trump's swearing-in on Friday clashed with police a few blocks from the White House, in an outburst of violence rare for an inauguration.

At least 217 people were arrested in the melees, police said.

The burst of civil disorder followed a fierce presidential campaign that ended in a stunning victory for Republican Trump over Democrat Hillary Clinton on Nov. 8 and left the country divided.




800 million are not going crazy. I agree. It's only 80 million

80 MM is hyperbole. I will settle for that. Suffice to say, it's a lot, and as the article suggested, wide spread all across America. Heck, it's hard to watch TV without someone going off.

Pushing back is fine. Political discourse is fine. Incivility, there's really no need. Madonna suggesting blowing up the white house on day 1 was a little extreme. Seems like millions agreed with her. Basically hasn't change anything.

None of these people were acting at the direction of a president. FAIL

 

[m.knox]

So you decided to answer with a whataboutism. Shocked I say! Everything Trump does is fine as long as you can point to some random thing that you don't like and claim I support it. Ridiculous....

Well that's where you got me all wrong. I do care about those things, a lot in fact. I strongly support law enforcement and approve of them cracking down on crime. I also support our military and believe in giving them all the tools they need, including at the border. So let's put your made-up accusation to bed - you're wrong.

You see, I'm not wedded to one terrible man so I can freely call out my side when they're wrong and if one candidate sucks, I'll vote for a different one, just like I did in the Democratic primary in 2020. And if a democratic president did the same things that Trump did, I would be disgusted and would strongly support his impeachment because my country is more important to me than one awful human being.

No, not everything Trump does is fine. Duh. That's your TDS speaking.

You have low moral character. That's the point. Selectively outraged.

 

[m.knox]

None of these people were acting at the direction of a president. FAIL

If the Jan 6 rioters were acting at the direction of the president, it would have been a peaceful protest. EPIC FAIL.

 

[dpic73]

No, not everything Trump does is fine. Duh. That's your TDS speaking.

You have low moral character. That's the point. Selectively outraged.

I'm sure you have a long list of things that I don't support but you'll claim I do to make yourself feel better about your undying devotion to a corrupt sociopath in the WH. What a shame that that ONE horrible man is your north star and you decided to dedicate a decade of your life defending him to the death. Sad!

 

[dpic73]

If the Jan 6 rioters were acting at the direction of the president, it would have been a peaceful protest. EPIC FAIL.

If he really cared that it remained peaceful, he wouldn't have:

• Watched it on tv for 3 hours.
• Told Mark Meadows that Pence deserved it.
• Told the violent mob that "he loved them" and they were "very special" later that same day.
• Played their prison songs at his rallies with his hand over his heart.
• Pardoned them unconditionally while calling them "great patriots".

You look ridiculous defending him for that day and decent Americans are disgusted that you do so.

 

[m.knox]

I'm sure you have a long list of things that I don't support but you'll claim I do to make yourself feel better about your undying devotion to a corrupt sociopath in the WH. What a shame that that ONE horrible man is your north star and you decided to dedicate a decade of your life defending him to the death. Sad!

UNDYING DEVOTION.... lmfao...

I've told you before. I find unhinged democrats like you to be quite amusing. I don't care who is in the White House. Watching you lose your **** about it is what this is about.

 

[m.knox]

If he really cared that it remained peaceful, he wouldn't have:

• Watched it on tv for 3 hours.
• Told Mark Meadows that Pence deserved it.
• Told the violent mob that "he loved them" and they were "very special" later that same day.
• Played their prison songs at his rallies with his hand over his heart.
• Pardoned them unconditionally while calling them "great patriots".

You look ridiculous defending him for that day and decent Americans are disgusted that you do so.

He said to the crowd to go down to the capital and peacefully protest. It's a fact.

You look ridiculous ignoring this fact. You look ridiculous not acknowledging that you became unhinged in Jan 2017.

 

[dpic73]

He said to the crowd to go down to the capital and peacefully protest. It's a fact.

You look ridiculous ignoring this fact. You look ridiculous not acknowledging that you became unhinged in Jan 2017.

That's the problem, you think the rest of us are as dumb as you are.

 

[dpic73]

UNDYING DEVOTION.... lmfao...

I've told you before. I find unhinged democrats like you to be quite amusing. I don't care who is in the White House. Watching you lose your **** about it is what this is about.

No **** sherlock, that sounds like something I could have told you. Oh wait...

You see, that's the problem we have here now - people like you don't give a **** how corrupt this sociopath is, you'll let him get away with anything - rape, murder, pedophilia, it doesn't matter as long as he pisses off the libs and you can make fun of them for it. That's not a me problem, that's your moral bankruptcy that we should be talking about.

 

[m.knox]

No **** sherlock, that sounds like something I could have told you. Oh wait...

And you do it again and again... lol.... Que up the Looney Tunes theme song.

 

[dpic73]

And you do it again and again... lol.... Que up the Looney Tunes theme song.

Que up the This is Fine meme

 

[Allornothing]

I think you missed my point. I'm talking about left or right extremism, I was talking about behaviors. For example, sometimes people walk down the street and say something like "good evening" to each other. Sometimes today people walk down the street and say something like, "F off you NAZI FASCIST C-SUCKING PERVERT." That doesn't make them an extremist. Just means they are angry and lack impulse control.

The person who wrote the article is a licensed psychotherapist in several states. He applying his professional skills and knowledge on the behavior of a subset of Americans. Do I believe that you are an extremist? No. Do I believe that your behavior has changed because Trump is president? Yes. There is a difference.

"Do I believe that you are an extremist? No. Do I believe that your behavior has changed because Trump is president? Yes. There is a difference."

You might want to rethink that. IT still believes J6 was the worst crime that ever happened.

 

[tigres88]

LOL... Got you beat by 3 years dummy. And somehow we were able to contain ourselves.

Violence flares in Washington during Trump inauguration​

https://www.reuters.com/article/wor...gton-during-trump-inauguration-idUSKBN1550CW/

January 21, 20175:37 AM EST Updated January 21, 2017


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Black-clad activists among hundreds of demonstrators protesting Donald Trump's swearing-in on Friday clashed with police a few blocks from the White House, in an outburst of violence rare for an inauguration.

At least 217 people were arrested in the melees, police said.

The burst of civil disorder followed a fierce presidential campaign that ended in a stunning victory for Republican Trump over Democrat Hillary Clinton on Nov. 8 and left the country divided.




800 million are not going crazy. I agree. It's only 80 million

80 MM is hyperbole. I will settle for that. Suffice to say, it's a lot, and as the article suggested, wide spread all across America. Heck, it's hard to watch TV without someone going off.

Pushing back is fine. Political discourse is fine. Incivility, there's really no need. Madonna suggesting blowing up the white house on day 1 was a little extreme. Seems like millions agreed with her. Basically hasn't change anything.

Again, I hear you. But Conservatives and MAGA alike both know that Trump is pushing past the Overton Window into far right extremism, and want him to. They think it's ok.

The vast majority of American's do not like that. They don't want the Overton Window to get pushed further right, nor do they want it to get pushed further extreme left.

However, society in general is progressive. It's dynamic and it changes. There are always people that want it to revert back to what it was, or to stay the same, or they do want it to move forward in change. But regardless, it always moves forward.

The crazies on both side don't want it to move forward in either direction. You can be a Jan. 6 denier all you want, but to say that those who literally tried to overturn an election by breaking into our Nation's capital to stop an election going through, is extreme and not ok. In the same way "keying and bombing Tesla's" by extremists because an Administration contracted the head of Tesla to be a part of the administration is also extreme and not ok.

However, the current administration is a far right extremist administration. You can be fine with that. You can applaud it. You can want it. But you can't expect everyone to be "ok" with it, nor just "go along with it." And they aren't all pushing back in an extreme manner.

Be ok with people disagreeing with you. Be ok with nuance. It's simply what it means to be human.

The VAST if not ALL of the liberals on this board are not extreme. But they are upset. But don't lump them in with extremists. They don't agree with gender affirming surgery, they aren't bombing teslas, and they aren't grooming anyone. And the vast vast vast majority of Liberals in America are in the same boat

 

[m.knox]

Again, I hear you. But Conservatives and MAGA alike both know that Trump is pushing past the Overton Window into far right extremism, and want him to. They think it's ok.

The vast majority of American's do not like that. They don't want the Overton Window to get pushed further right, nor do they want it to get pushed further extreme left.

However, society in general is progressive. It's dynamic and it changes. There are always people that want it to revert back to what it was, or to stay the same, or they do want it to move forward in change. But regardless, it always moves forward.

The crazies on both side don't want it to move forward in either direction. You can be a Jan. 6 denier all you want, but to say that those who literally tried to overturn an election by breaking into our Nation's capital to stop an election going through, is extreme and not ok. In the same way "keying and bombing Tesla's" by extremists because an Administration contracted the head of Tesla to be a part of the administration is also extreme and not ok.

However, the current administration is a far right extremist administration. You can be fine with that. You can applaud it. You can want it. But you can't expect everyone to be "ok" with it, nor just "go along with it." And they aren't all pushing back in an extreme manner.

Be ok with people disagreeing with you. Be ok with nuance. It's simply what it means to be human.

The VAST if not ALL of the liberals on this board are not extreme. But they are upset. But don't lump them in with extremists. They don't agree with gender affirming surgery, they aren't bombing teslas, and they aren't grooming anyone. And the vast vast vast majority of Liberals in America are in the same boat

It's been very clear that I don't lump most liberals into the extreme category. I said that they are emotionally unhinged, which I maintain , and I believe you underestimate how many people there are who are in this condition.

If you call Trump's agenda "extreme right" then Biden's was "extreme left." He's simply doing the opposite of what Biden did, who was simply doing the opposite of what Trump did prior.

Guess who said this about illegal immigration? No cheating.

We will only pass comprehensive immigration reform when we recognize this fundamental concept. The following seven principles are all based on this concept, and comprise what I believe to be the framework for a bill that can receive overwhelming Congressional support:

1. Illegal immigration is wrong, and a primary goal of comprehensive immigration reform must be to dramatically curtail future illegal immigration.

2. Operational control of our borders--through significant additional increases in infrastructure, technology, and border personnel--must be achieved within a year of enactment of legislation.

3. A biometric-based employer verification system with tough enforcement and auditing is necessary to significantly diminish the job magnet that attracts illegal aliens to the United States and to provide certainty and simplicity for employers.

4. All illegal aliens present in the United States on the date of enactment of our bill must quickly register their presence with the United States Government and submit to a rigorous process of converting to legal status and earning a path to citizenship or face imminent deportation.

5. Family reunification is a cornerstone value of our immigration system. By dramatically reducing illegal immigration, we can create more room for both family immigration and employment-based immigration.

6. We must encourage the world's best and brightest individuals to come to the United States and create the new technologies and businesses that will employ countless American workers, but must discourage businesses from using our immigration laws as a means to obtain temporary and less-expensive foreign labor to replace capable American workers; and finally

7. We must create a system that converts the current flow of unskilled illegal immigrants into the United States into a more manageable and controlled flow of legal immigrants who can be absorbed by our economy.

The first of these seven principles is that illegal immigration is wrong plain and simple. When we use phrases like "undocumented workers," we convey a message to the American people that their Government is not serious about combating illegal immigration, which the American people overwhelmingly oppose.

Above all else, the American people want their Government to be serious about protecting the public, enforcing the rule of law, and creating a rational system of legal immigration that will proactively fit our needs rather than reactively responding to future waves of illegal immigration.

People who enter the United States without our permission are illegal aliens, and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who entered the United States legally.

To the advocates for strong, fair, effective, and comprehensive immigration reform, I say to you that the American people will never accept immigration reform unless they truly believe that their government is committed to ending future illegal immigration and any successful comprehensive immigration reform bill must recognize this fact.

I have spoken to many such advocates in the past several months, and one of the main reasons I am optimistic about achieving reform this time around is that advocates understand the need to embrace this principle during the current debate.

Second, any immigration solution must recognize that we must do as much as we can to gain operational control of our borders as soon as possible.

But we also need to set the record straight. The American people need to know that, because of our efforts in Congress, our border is far more secure today than it was when we began debating comprehensive immigration reform in 2005.

Between 2005 and 2009, a vast amount of progress has been made on our borders and ports of entry. This progress includes:

(1) 9,000 new border patrol agents in the last 4 years;

(2) construction of 630 miles of border fence that create a significant barrier to illegal immigration on our southern land border; and

(3) implementation of new border technologies which serve as "force multipliers" and allow the border patrol to maintain control of larger segments of the border with fewer agents.

Any guesses?

 

[tigres88]

It's been very clear that I don't lump most liberals into the extreme category. I said that they are emotionally unhinged, which I maintain , and I believe you underestimate how many people there are who are in this condition.

If you call Trump's agenda "extreme right" then Biden's was "extreme left." He's simply doing the opposite of what Biden did, who was simply doing the opposite of what Trump did prior.

Guess who said this about illegal immigration? No cheating.

We will only pass comprehensive immigration reform when we recognize this fundamental concept. The following seven principles are all based on this concept, and comprise what I believe to be the framework for a bill that can receive overwhelming Congressional support:

1. Illegal immigration is wrong, and a primary goal of comprehensive immigration reform must be to dramatically curtail future illegal immigration.

2. Operational control of our borders--through significant additional increases in infrastructure, technology, and border personnel--must be achieved within a year of enactment of legislation.

3. A biometric-based employer verification system with tough enforcement and auditing is necessary to significantly diminish the job magnet that attracts illegal aliens to the United States and to provide certainty and simplicity for employers.

4. All illegal aliens present in the United States on the date of enactment of our bill must quickly register their presence with the United States Government and submit to a rigorous process of converting to legal status and earning a path to citizenship or face imminent deportation.

5. Family reunification is a cornerstone value of our immigration system. By dramatically reducing illegal immigration, we can create more room for both family immigration and employment-based immigration.

6. We must encourage the world's best and brightest individuals to come to the United States and create the new technologies and businesses that will employ countless American workers, but must discourage businesses from using our immigration laws as a means to obtain temporary and less-expensive foreign labor to replace capable American workers; and finally

7. We must create a system that converts the current flow of unskilled illegal immigrants into the United States into a more manageable and controlled flow of legal immigrants who can be absorbed by our economy.

The first of these seven principles is that illegal immigration is wrong plain and simple. When we use phrases like "undocumented workers," we convey a message to the American people that their Government is not serious about combating illegal immigration, which the American people overwhelmingly oppose.

Above all else, the American people want their Government to be serious about protecting the public, enforcing the rule of law, and creating a rational system of legal immigration that will proactively fit our needs rather than reactively responding to future waves of illegal immigration.

People who enter the United States without our permission are illegal aliens, and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who entered the United States legally.

To the advocates for strong, fair, effective, and comprehensive immigration reform, I say to you that the American people will never accept immigration reform unless they truly believe that their government is committed to ending future illegal immigration and any successful comprehensive immigration reform bill must recognize this fact.

I have spoken to many such advocates in the past several months, and one of the main reasons I am optimistic about achieving reform this time around is that advocates understand the need to embrace this principle during the current debate.

Second, any immigration solution must recognize that we must do as much as we can to gain operational control of our borders as soon as possible.

But we also need to set the record straight. The American people need to know that, because of our efforts in Congress, our border is far more secure today than it was when we began debating comprehensive immigration reform in 2005.

Between 2005 and 2009, a vast amount of progress has been made on our borders and ports of entry. This progress includes:

(1) 9,000 new border patrol agents in the last 4 years;

(2) construction of 630 miles of border fence that create a significant barrier to illegal immigration on our southern land border; and

(3) implementation of new border technologies which serve as "force multipliers" and allow the border patrol to maintain control of larger segments of the border with fewer agents.

Any guesses?

I don't care to look up your quote. I'm on record that I have no problem with immigrants, undocumented or legal. I think diversity is helpful, and a massive net positive for society. This is a difference of opion, and you're simply diverting from the issue at hand. We aren't talking about immigration.

You get on here every day saying all liberals/democrats are violent. That they all have TDS. That they all are extreme.

And you say I "underestimate" liberals. You have witnessed the night, I was born in the darkness. I know liberals. I know FAR left democrats. I know the anti capitalist, socialist, anarchists leftists. I talk to them often. They are a tiny minority, and mostly live online. But I know them, and have talked to them in person and also seen them online.

But most liberals aren't there. and it's simply wrong to say so. Perhaps the Biden administration was an extreme far left administration. That's fine. People hated it and voted against the Democrat party.

The answer, however, isn't far right extremism. It just simply isn't, and you have to understand that people that don't like, disagree with, or even HATE what the administration is doing by adhering to far right extremism and is going to get push back. It's going to be disagreed with. Just like you pushed back and disagreed with what you felt was far left extremism by the Biden admin.

But it's disingenuous to lump all liberals/democrats/people on this board in an extreme left bucket. You're dehumanizing your fellow Americans

 

[m.knox]

I don't care to look up your quote. I'm on record that I have no problem with immigrants, undocumented or legal. I think diversity is helpful, and a massive net positive for society. This is a difference of opion, and you're simply diverting from the issue at hand. We aren't talking about immigration.

You get on here every day saying all liberals/democrats are violent. That they all have TDS. That they all are extreme.

They aren't. It's simply wrong to say so. Perhaps the Biden administration was an extreme far left administration. That's fine. People hated it and voted against the Democrat party.

The answer isn't far right extremism. It just simply isn't, and you have to understand that people that don't like, disagree with, or even HATE what the administration is doing by adhering to far right extremism is going to get push back. It's going to be disagreed with. Just like you pushed back and disagreed with what you felt was far left extremism by the Biden admin.

But it's disingenuous to lump all liberals/democrats/people on this board in an extreme left bucket. You're dehumanizing your fellow Americans

It was Chuck Schumer. Fact.

So Trump agrees with him, then what happens? LOL...

Do you have a reading issue?

"It's been very clear that I don't lump most liberals into the extreme category. I said that they are emotionally unhinged, which I maintain , and I believe you underestimate how many people there are who are in this condition."

Quick question. Who gets on this board EVERY DAY and calls others FASCIST, NAZI, HITLER, RACIST.....?

Dude, c'mon. Who is dehumanizing OUR fellow Americans? It amazes me that when someone pushes back on your NAZI BS, you start to whine about dehumanizing our fellow Americans.....

 

[tigres88]

It was Chuck Schumer. Fact.

So Trump agrees with him, then what happens? LOL...

Do you have a reading issue?

"It's been very clear that I don't lump most liberals into the extreme category. I said that they are emotionally unhinged, which I maintain , and I believe you underestimate how many people there are who are in this condition."

Quick question. Who gets on this board EVERY DAY and calls others FASCIST, NAZI, HITLER, RACIST.....?

Dude, c'mon. Who is dehumanizing OUR fellow Americans? It amazes me that when someone pushes back on your NAZI BS, you start to whine about dehumanizing our fellow Americans.....

Here's the difference- I really do (at least attempt to at the least) understand how you feel. And I get that you feel the draconian efforts of liberals and democrats have been counter to you, hurt you, and have oppressed you. I get that you think that the Democrats don't care about you, don't want to help anyone who acts/believes like you do. And that their dogma, progressive ideals, etc. have hurt America. I also understand that you think Dems/the left are brainwashed, have a victim ideology, and have extreme amounts of white guilt which are all unwarranted.

I've lived in the deep south almost my whole life. My whole family is conservative, evangelical, and deeply republican/southern. I wasn't the kid who rebelled against that, I was great at living that life. I didn't "turn" or think differently out of rebellion. For me it was simply real life experiences.

I say this to say, I empathize. I get where you're coming from. I know it deeply. But often, things said on this board and by MAGA is simply racist. Its simply bigotry. It's simply misogynistic. It's homophobic. It's simply christian nationalist. It's simply white american nationalist.

Fat piggy hates the transgender community and thinks they are all pedophiles and groomers. This is bigotry. Growls and mttiger have often posted things about how the reason black communities experience more crime is because its a cultural thing in the black community. This is simply racist.

It just is. And we call it that- but like, why do you care? Yall believe those things. To liberals? Thats a problem. But to yall? you don't care. You believe it. So why not own it?

I truly believe the black community should receive reparations from Jim Crow, slavery, and segregation. This makes me lose respect with almost everyone as thats far past the overton window on both sides. But I don't care, cuz I actually believe it. I don't care AT ALL about undocumented immigrants and think they should be able to come here. That's far past the overton window on both sides, but I own it.

I'm not scared of being called reparations boi or open boarders boi, why are you so scared of being called racist/nazi? Just own it.

 

[m.knox]

Here's the difference- I really do (at least attempt to at the least) understand how you feel. And I get that you feel the draconian efforts of liberals and democrats have been counter to you, hurt you, and have oppressed you. I get that you think that the Democrats don't care about you, don't want to help anyone who acts/believes like you do. And that their dogma, progressive ideals, etc. have hurt America. I also understand that you think Dems/the left are brainwashed, have a victim ideology, and have extreme amounts of white guilt which are all unwarranted.

I've lived in the deep south almost my whole life. My whole family is conservative, evangelical, and deeply republican/southern. I wasn't the kid who rebelled against that, I was great at living that life. I didn't "turn" or think differently out of rebellion. For me it was simply real life experiences.

I say this to say, I empathize. I get where you're coming from. I know it deeply. But often, things said on this board and by MAGA is simply racist. Its simply bigotry. It's simply misogynistic. It's homophobic. It's simply christian nationalist. It's simply white american nationalist.

Fat piggy hates the transgender community and thinks they are all pedophiles and groomers. This is bigotry. Growls and mttiger have often posted things about how the reason black communities experience more crime is because its a cultural thing in the black community. This is simply racist.

It just is. And we call it that- but like, why do you care? Yall believe those things. To liberals? Thats a problem. But to yall? you don't care. You believe it. So why not own it?

I truly believe the black community should receive reparations from Jim Crow, slavery, and segregation. This makes me lose respect with almost everyone as thats far past the overton window on both sides. But I don't care, cuz I actually believe it. I don't care AT ALL about undocumented immigrants and think they should be able to come here. That's far past the overton window on both sides, but I own it.

I'm not scared of being called reparations boi or open boarders boi, why are you so scared of being called racist/nazi? Just own it.

First off, it's not about "me", it's about a civil society. There are individuals here proclaiming that it cannot be civil because America elected Trump. Let's let that stand where it is as well as your entire first paragraph.

Second, you are trying to dehumanize an entire segment of our society with your comments about MAGA (whatever that is - I believe it to be a construct of the left to dehumanize those they HATE).

I don't know fat piggy well enough to judge him, but if you espouse the belief that we should save every single life from misery, the Zulock boys took a giant **** on that idea.

I don't believe that reparations are appropriate. They would be spent, gone and nothing further would be accomplished. I think a better approach would be to educate everyone equally, but unfortunately, not all families appreciate education.

You can call me NAZI, RACIST and FASCIST all you like. It's laughable. Sorry. It's been 10 years and counting. It's a joke now. Do you really think anyone else cares about anyone's emotional outbursts any more? Admittedly though, I do like to point it out.

 

[tigres88]

First off, it's not about "me", it's about a civil society. There are individuals here proclaiming that it cannot be civil because America elected Trump. Let's let that stand where it is as well as your entire first paragraph.

Second, you are trying to dehumanize an entire segment of our society with your comments about MAGA (whatever that is - I believe it to be a construct of the left to dehumanize those they HATE).

I don't know fat piggy well enough to judge him, but if you espouse the belief that we should save every single life from misery, the Zulock boys took a giant **** on that idea.

I don't believe that reparations are appropriate. They would be spent, gone and nothing further would be accomplished. I think a better approach would be to educate everyone equally, but unfortunately, not all families appreciate education.

You can call me NAZI, RACIST and FASCIST all you like. It's laughable. Sorry. It's been 10 years and counting. It's a joke now. Do you really think anyone else cares about anyone's emotional outbursts any more? Admittedly though, I do like to point it out.

I'm simply stating the truth. Dems/liberals call "racist!, Nazi!, Facist!" all the time. sometimes if not often, undeservedly. I understand to you that because of this, its lost its meaning.

But that doesn't mean its lost its meaning. Or that what you deem "ok" isn't actually racist, fascist, or bigotrous. My only point is, own it. I've seen you multiple times being ok with racist and bigotrous comments on this board, if not applaud them. You may not think those things are, but by definition, they are. And it DOES hurt people. Does it hurt enough to make a difference? Maybe not. Does it hurt enough people that the dems/liberals should focus on it as much as they should? Debatable at best.

But just own your **** dude. If you believe trans people shouldn't exist/aren't real/are mentally ill/are groomers by nature, its bigotry, by definition. Own it. If you think Black people are more violent/lazy as a culture and people, its racist by definition. But just own it. If you think women should stay home and raise families and not work, its misogynistic by definition. But just own it.

You're showing your obsession with how liberals view you by denying those things. I don't obsess with how MAGA/conservatives/republicans (including your pot shots in this thread) about how I feel about reparations, women, black people, immigrants, or open boarders. I own it. And I'm doing so with a far right extremist administration in power and who is completely against my own way of viewing the world.

Wanna know why? Cuz I'm not a lil b!tch and stand by what I believe. Own your **** dude and quit reacting to how other people paint you to be. Just own it.

 

[dpic73]

First off, it's not about "me", it's about a civil society. There are individuals here proclaiming that it cannot be civil because America elected Trump. Let's let that stand where it is as well as your entire first paragraph.

Second, you are trying to dehumanize an entire segment of our society with your comments about MAGA (whatever that is - I believe it to be a construct of the left to dehumanize those they HATE).

I don't know fat piggy well enough to judge him, but if you espouse the belief that we should save every single life from misery, the Zulock boys took a giant **** on that idea.

I don't believe that reparations are appropriate. They would be spent, gone and nothing further would be accomplished. I think a better approach would be to educate everyone equally, but unfortunately, not all families appreciate education.

You can call me NAZI, RACIST and FASCIST all you like. It's laughable. Sorry. It's been 10 years and counting. It's a joke now. Do you really think anyone else cares about anyone's emotional outbursts any more? Admittedly though, I do like to point it out.

Welp, @tigres88 you gave it a hell of a try and I commend you for it but this isn't a rational person who can follow a logical train of thought you're dealing with. Now he expects you to play whack-a-mole with a bunch of random charges about things you weren't even discussing lol. More power to you if you can keep your calm.

 

[m.knox]

Welp, @tigres88 you gave it a hell of a try and I commend you for it but this isn't a rational person who can follow a logical train of thought you're dealing with. Now he expects you to play whack-a-mole with a bunch of random charges about things you weren't even discussing lol. More power to you if you can keep your calm.

You and @tigres88 clearly don't want a civil society. You'd rather be self absorbed in your own worldview instead of striving for something better.

Low moral ground. Sad.

 

[dpic73]

You and @tigres88 clearly don't want a civil society. You'd rather be self absorbed in your own worldview instead of striving for something better.

Low moral ground. Sad.

LMAO, au contraire, we are desperately striving for something better because this aint it and we ALL deserve better than this. You don't become a more civil society by installing the most uncivil @sshole in the history of this country so until YOU demand better of him, don't you dare come and point your finger at us. Don't you dare....

Low moral ground is accepting without question the depravity and abject corruption of this sinister administration because you get all gooey inside when he makes the liberals cry. That's the definition of the low moral ground, but that's who you are, so like @tigres88 told you, just own your sh*t man. It's you that you should be concerned about, not us.

 

[m.knox]

LMAO, au contraire, we are desperately striving for something better because this aint it and we ALL deserve better than this. You don't become a more civil society by installing the most uncivil @sshole in the history of this country so until YOU demand better of him, don't you dare come and point your finger at us. Don't you dare....

Low moral ground is accepting without question the depravity and abject corruption of this sinister administration because you get all gooey inside when he makes the liberals cry. That's the definition of the low moral ground, but that's who you are, so like @tigres88 told you, just own your sh*t man. It's you that you should be concerned about, not us.

Low moral ground.... So sad America has come to this........

You really do hate democracy.

 

[dpic73]

Low moral ground.... So sad America has come to this........

You really do hate democracy.

 

[Moogy]

Sometimes today people walk down the street and say something like, "F off you NAZI FASCIST C-SUCKING PERVERT."

No doubt you get that said to you multiple times a day.

Just means they are angry and lack impulse control.

Like when you feel compelled to troll the board, and then try to justify your compulsion by saying it's the greatest thing ever and you are so happy.

 

[Moogy]

So you decided to answer with a whataboutism. Shocked I say! Everything Trump does is fine as long as you can point to some random thing that you don't like and claim I support it. Ridiculous....

Well that's where you got me all wrong. I do care about those things, a lot in fact. I strongly support law enforcement and approve of them cracking down on crime. I also support our military and believe in giving them all the tools they need, including at the border. So let's put your made-up accusation to bed - you're wrong.

You see, I'm not wedded to one terrible man so I can freely call out my side when they're wrong and if one candidate sucks, I'll vote for a different one, just like I did in the Democratic primary in 2020. And if a democratic president did the same things that Trump did, I would be disgusted and would strongly support his impeachment because my country is more important to me than one awful human being. You can't say that.

Why are you trying to reason with this guy? He's not interested, nor is he capable.

You know the expression that it's like banging your head against a wall? It's an expression for a reason ... and it's true here. You think maybe you can have a discussion and exchange ideas, and get to understand him and have him understand you ... you can't. It's like a computer program coded only to respond a certain way. It can't "break character" and start being normal. It can't give you the discussion you're after - the exchange of ideas, answering of questions, etc.

He can't/won't answer questions, account for actions on "his side" of things, or any of that, because he knows it would break the troll cycle and expose him for what he is. It's never going to happen. No matter how hard you try and reason with him. It's just not there. Thing is, this villain has an origin story ... he was once a normal(ish) poster ... then someone made fun of him to the point where he snapped. Ever since then, he's been stuck as this troll character.

His existence is only good for mocking. That's it. Point at him and laugh.

 

[dpic73]

Why are you trying to reason with this guy? He's not interested, nor is he capable.

You know the expression that it's like banging your head against a wall? It's an expression for a reason ... and it's true here. You think maybe you can have a discussion and exchange ideas, and get to understand him and have him understand you ... you can't. It's like a computer program coded only to respond a certain way. It can't "break character" and start being normal. It can't give you the discussion you're after - the exchange of ideas, answering of questions, etc.

He can't/won't answer questions, account for actions on "his side" of things, or any of that, because he knows it would break the troll cycle and expose him for what he is. It's never going to happen. No matter how hard you try and reason with him. It's just not there. Thing is, this villain has an origin story ... he was once a normal(ish) poster ... then someone made fun of him to the point where he snapped. Ever since then, he's been stuck as this troll character.

His existence is only good for mocking. That's it. Point at him and laugh.

Here, here, you're absolutely right but I just can't help myself sometimes. He's definitely had some glitchy hardware installed that causes him flood the board with utter nonsense about "violent Dems" keying Teslas and such that I feel the need to challenge him lest there are low IQ lurkers reading the board that might be influenced by him. But you're right, I'll never understand him lol.

 

[Moogy]

Here, here, you're absolutely right but I just can't help myself sometimes. He's definitely had some glitchy hardware installed that causes him flood the board with utter nonsense about "violent Dems" keying Teslas and such that I feel the need to challenge him lest there are low IQ lurkers reading the board that might be influenced by him. But you're right, I'll never understand him lol.

Once upon a time he was your normal insecure con … like some on this board … you know the type that try to bully folks, use homophobic references to do so, and so on. But he’d still try to go back and forth with ideas, and respond directly to what you were saying. Then someone stood up to him during one of his attempted bullying sessions, and the more he tried to fight back, the worse it got for him. He ended up with all sorts of emasculating nicknames (ask @LafayetteBear about that), and was just broken. He cried and peed. Now he trolls relentlessly, and either avoids counterpoints entirely and just keeps repeating himself, or he goes full whataboutism.

It’s sad to see. When was just so fragile under that wannabe tough guy exterior.

 

[baltimorened]

Why are you trying to reason with this guy? He's not interested, nor is he capable.

You know the expression that it's like banging your head against a wall? It's an expression for a reason ... and it's true here. You think maybe you can have a discussion and exchange ideas, and get to understand him and have him understand you ... you can't. It's like a computer program coded only to respond a certain way. It can't "break character" and start being normal. It can't give you the discussion you're after - the exchange of ideas, answering of questions, etc.

He can't/won't answer questions, account for actions on "his side" of things, or any of that, because he knows it would break the troll cycle and expose him for what he is. It's never going to happen. No matter how hard you try and reason with him. It's just not there. Thing is, this villain has an origin story ... he was once a normal(ish) poster ... then someone made fun of him to the point where he snapped. Ever since then, he's been stuck as this troll character.

His existence is only good for mocking. That's it. Point at him and laugh.

I had to chuckle a little at this post. I could have written almost this exact thing about you and your "discussion and exchange ideas" concept. "just answer yes or no" "it's not complicated"

 

[m.knox]

No doubt you get that said to you multiple times a day.




Like when you feel compelled to troll the board, and then try to justify your compulsion by saying it's the greatest thing ever and you are so happy.

SimplyComplicated.... lmfao....

 

[m.knox]

Here, here, you're absolutely right but I just can't help myself sometimes. He's definitely had some glitchy hardware installed that causes him flood the board with utter nonsense about "violent Dems" keying Teslas and such that I feel the need to challenge him lest there are low IQ lurkers reading the board that might be influenced by him. But you're right, I'll never understand him lol.

You can't help yourself at all.