What would you think if Wanny was up for the job?
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Wanny was a little like Franklin - great recruiting, but subpar coaching. He always seemed to bring in great classes, but then they never seemed to do that great. Part of that was Hafley, for sure - but I don't think I'd mind 3 years of great recruiting and subpar coaching if we could then bring in a coach that could do something with that talent.
I'm not a big wanny guy. But this is a message board where multiple said they wouldn't want les miles so nobody is good enough for RU
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Would hire him in a heartbeat. Guy really has done nothing but win. Was 42-31 with the Dolphins. His last three years at Pitt he was 9-4, 10-3 and 7-5 and he gets fired? Like him on the B1G networks. Seems fun and engaging. We could do a lot worse.
The key to this thread will be to see how many people who think Schiano would be a great hire will instantly dismiss Wannstadt, despite Wannstadt being better at Pitt during his six years than Schiano was at Rutgers in the same six years.
Im not saying I would love the hire - but right now we need someone to build the talent back up. He had Pitt as a top 30 team in computer rankings in the last three years he was there. The question is - could he do it again - after being out of the game for several years.
YE Massey ratings for Pitt under Wanny
2005: 62
2006: 55
2007: 64
2008: 18
2009: 16
2010: 32
I'd want Schiano based on his familiarity with how retarded RU is.. I would take Wanny though. Anybody that was an NFL coach i'd take because in the B1G you need to have some credibility and cache. They still won't win a majority of the battles with guys like Meyer, Dantonio or Harbaugh, but they will hold their own against Franklin and the rest in of the league also rans.
Yep. Recruiting rankings:
2005: 38
2006: 21
2007: 26
2008: 28
2009: 47
2010: 33
Still never finished better than 5-2 in the Big East, and went just 42-31 during his time at Pitt (26-12 over his last 3 years).
Even in 2009, with a 16 massey rating, Pitt managed to finish third in the conference including a loss to 5-7 NC State, and ended up in the Meineke Car Care bowl
He could bring in talent, he just never seemed to get all the pieces going the right way on the field.
At this point, I'd take that in a heartbeat. Bring in the talent, have the decent seasons with head-scratchers, and then bring in the next guy in 3-4 years when Wanny is ready to retire. Still, though, I think a lot of that recruiting prowess fell to Hafley, who was with him from 2006-2010.
I once asked both Tom and Corey of all the coaches that came to see them at O'Hara, who was the guy who had the biggest presence about him. They both said Wannstadt. He would definitely be able to go head to head on the recruiting trail with the B1G boys.
would take him over many of the names that being bandied about on this board.
Now ? I think I'd pass. However, he was my first choice to replace Schiano. We had a title team on board and needed an experienced coach at that time.
Compared to Flood, heck yeah. Instant legitimacy. At least I can picture Wanny shaking hands with Urban Meyer and Jim Harbaugh.
I agree...watching Fludd whisper in the opposing coaches ear after every loss is getting frustrating.
Any Coach would be an automatic upgrade over Fudd.
Wanny would be huge in terms of proven success and attracting top talent.
Probably not even in my Top 10 - ****, I hadn't even thought about him until this thread - BUT:
- not Flood
- recruiting would be great
- is he a pro-set O guy
- not Flood
- recruiting would be great
- is he a pro-set O guy
Not as HC as DC definitely. Would rather Schiano himself if we are looking at the tree he came from.
Funny how smart Wannstedt and DiNardo sound now that have been
fired a couple of times.
Maybe we could get all three Wanny ,Dinardo and Mason they could alternate being head coach each week. Wanny could be head coach when they "play in the parking lot".lol. I know they all were pretty good coaches but I think they are very good on BIG network.
I'll pass. He always comes off as kind of scatter brained on tv. I wonder if that personality and jumpiness is why he never was able to win the BE. Also if you look at all those 5-2 BE teams, the 2 losses were always to the other top finishers in the league for a given year. So if he couldn't do it then, I wouldn't expect him to compete any better against the top teams in the B10 East.
I think he'd be great...his staff had NNJ on lockdown recruiting wise until he was dumbly canned....solid coach great organizer...he'll make Pitt look dumb if he latches on here...GS,DW....then maybe AG.
I don't think they were dumb to let him go. Looked to me like he was trending back down and like I said his losses in those 5-2 conference years were against the other top competitors in those given years. Brian Kelly, Rich Rod had already left in a couple of them too. So he lost to the top competitors in those years and couldn't take advantage of a couple of the better coaches leaving the conference.
How much did they suffer. Not much if you ask me. They hovered around .500, made a bowl in all the years after and now in their 5th they're having a really good season just about the same time Wanny did. Maybe a slight back slide but nothing too bad and they gave it a shot. I can't say for sure Wanny would have done much better.
Wanny's records 5-6 (4-3), 6-6 (2-5), 5-7 (3-4), 9-4 (5-2),10-3 (5-2), 7-5 (5-2)
Records of replacements 6-6 (4-3), 6-7 (3-4), 7-6 (3-5), 6-6 (4-4), 8-3 (6-1)
How much did they suffer. Not much if you ask me. They hovered around .500, made a bowl in all the years after and now in their 5th they're having a really good season just about the same time Wanny did. Maybe a slight back slide but nothing too bad and they gave it a shot. I can't say for sure Wanny would have done much better.
Wanny's records 5-6 (4-3), 6-6 (2-5), 5-7 (3-4), 9-4 (5-2),10-3 (5-2), 7-5 (5-2)
Records of replacements 6-6 (4-3), 6-7 (3-4), 7-6 (3-5), 6-6 (4-4), 8-3 (6-1)