WHC week 11

[Mitchell county mountie]

Only 2 more games to go before post season action begins. Last week, we had a couple good games. Polk and Avery slugged it out in Newland in a controversial game, Mitchell scored 69 points in about 20 offensive plays against Madison, and Mountain Heritage needed a miracle and some fresh drawers to hold off Owen. Some more good games await us this week.

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Mitchell (8-1)(2-1) @ Polk (8-1)(2-1)

This game is for 2nd place in the conference, and the #1 seed for the playoffs. Both teams enter with identical records, with Mitchell's lone loss coming to Mountain Heritage, and Polk's coming to Owen, a team Mitchell beat handily. Fireworks should ensue, as these two almost always play each other down to the wire. Polk's home field should be an advantage, but will it be enough to lock down on Mitchell's high flying offense?
Mitchell 28
Polk 27

Owen (4-4)(1-2) @ Avery (5-4)(1-2)

Owen and Avery both need a quality win this week, for one, to avoid 5th place, and two, to bolster their playoff resume. Owen has been playing much better after taking a shellacking from Mitchell, while Avery has played well also, coming up just short. Owen's d has struggled covering the pass, and that's all Avery does. Likewise, Avery has allowed alot of yards on the ground, and Owen's rush is pretty good. Could be a wild night.

Avery 55
Owen 50

Mountain Heritage (7-1)(3-0) @ Madison (0-9)(0-3)

Running clock slaughter.

 

[Owen Stampede]

Mountie you do know if Owen wins vs Avery and Madison, You lose to Polk and Polk loses to Heritage then it will be a 3 way tie for 2nd? The fact is Owen is starting to play like they should unlike the night we played Mitchell. We were without one of, if not our best linemen vs Mitchell and we played terrible. I dont see 50 points being scored by either team Friday between Owen and Avery. I expect a good game. It's hard to play at Avery but we will see. 2nd place isnt sown up though. Truthfully I dont think Polk beats you but I know Ollis and he will play yall like Heritage. Keep away and 4th down conversions. Who knows what happens.

I say...
Owen by 10
Mitchell by 3
Heritage by 60

 

[Owen Stampede]

Owen is 4-4 not 4-5. We only play 10 games

 

[Mitchell county mountie]

Mountie you do know if Owen wins vs Avery and Madison, You lose to Polk and Polk loses to Heritage then it will be a 3 way tie for 2nd? The fact is Owen is starting to play like they should unlike the night we played Mitchell. We were without one of, if not our best linemen vs Mitchell and we played terrible. I dont see 50 points being scored by either team Friday between Owen and Avery. I expect a good game. It's hard to play at Avery but we will see. 2nd place isnt sown up though. Truthfully I dont think Polk beats you but I know Ollis and he will play yall like Heritage. Keep away and 4th down conversions. Who knows what happens.

I say...
Owen by 10
Mitchell by 3
Heritage by 60

Well aware. When I referred to the places in conference, I was meaning for this week, not over all. I'm giving Owen the credit they deserve right now. I said the other day that Mitchell woke them up, and if that game were played again it would be much closer.

 

[Mitchell county mountie]

Owen is 4-4 not 4-5. We only play 10 games

Fixed it.

 

[Owen Stampede]

Our pass d is not bad. When you game plan for a running team you give up the pass to try and stop the run. When you game plan for the pass you let up on the run a bit. I personally believe we are gonna be a terrible matchup for Avery. I think we can go with a 3 man front and still be able to hold down the run then use our linebackers in coverage. Our 3 d linemen will average somewhere around 300 and around 6'2. I feel that MItchell will also be that bad matchup for much the same reason. Last year the qb was running for his life and I expect the same this year. It is a bunch of teenagers so who knows what you will get.

 

[Rocketman101]

Mountie you do know if Owen wins vs Avery and Madison, You lose to Polk and Polk loses to Heritage then it will be a 3 way tie for 2nd? The fact is Owen is starting to play like they should unlike the night we played Mitchell. We were without one of, if not our best linemen vs Mitchell and we played terrible. I dont see 50 points being scored by either team Friday between Owen and Avery. I expect a good game. It's hard to play at Avery but we will see. 2nd place isnt sown up though. Truthfully I dont think Polk beats you but I know Ollis and he will play yall like Heritage. Keep away and 4th down conversions. Who knows what happens.

I say...
Owen by 10
Mitchell by 3
Heritage by 60

You know if mitchell ties for 2nd place, with all the hype mountaineers came into the season with will be lot unhappy fans.

 

[Owen Stampede]

There definitely was and in some ways still is alot of hype with Mitchell. So that would have to be a disappointment. I think Mitchell has a very good team as do I think Heritage does but the bragging done by both fan bases is a little overboard. Luckily for Heritage is they have been able to back it up till this point. Should have lost last Friday though but there kids wouldn't quit. I'm still proud of the way the Horses played and are playing the last couple weeks.

 

[Mhsneer]

No. We will be happy with these kids. They’ve played hard. They will go out as the winningest senior class in Mitchell history I think

 

[Appvol]

Here is the projections

 

[Heritage 84]

I like Appvols projection with the Polk and Mitchell game being a toss up in my mind.

I do doubt we score 60 points as our offense usually establishes long drives and does not score quickly. Anything around 40 point victory is probably closer to reality. Also Joey will mos tlinely rest all the guys for about a quarter and a half Friday.

 

[Mitchell county mountie]

I like Appvols projection with the Polk and Mitchell game being a toss up in my mind.

I do doubt we score 60 points as our offense usually establishes long drives and does not score quickly. Anything around 40 point victory is probably closer to reality. Also Joey will mos tlinely rest all the guys for about a quarter and a half Friday.

Have you not seen Madison this year? Mitchell's starters were out midway thru the 1st quarter. Long sustaining drives are not a thing against the Pats defense...

 

[Appvol]

I like Appvols projection with the Polk and Mitchell game being a toss up in my mind.

I do doubt we score 60 points as our offense usually establishes long drives and does not score quickly. Anything around 40 point victory is probably closer to reality. Also Joey will mos tlinely rest all the guys for about a quarter and a half Friday.

Not my predictions. I got it off Calpreps. I just like seeing how close it is. It predicted my sons team to get beat 21-19 last week and my sons team won 46-0.

 

[Old Mountaineer]

You know if mitchell ties for 2nd place, with all the hype mountaineers came into the season with will be lot unhappy fans.

Personally I didn't have a lot hype about Mitchell coming into this year. I wasn't sure what kind of team to expect, while I knew there was good players returning but some good players like the starting RB and the best defensive tackle . Plus you never know what the other teams are going to be like , look how much better Polk is from last year, and I'm expecting a close game. And I personally don't take a lot stock in the Mtn Heritage game as far as how Mitchell will play in other games , the year Mitchell went to the state championship they lost two games , Wallace Rose and Mtn Heritage, that year Mitchell and MH both beat Polk by one point, MH beat Mitchell 41-27, Mitchell the last years just never plays well against MH, it's mental block they can't seem to over come.

 

[Yosef1381]

Mitchell 49 Polk 35
Avery 42 Owen 27
Heritage 35 Madison 0

 

[Old Mountaineer]

Mitchell by 7 but win or lose Polk has thier best gate sales of the year.
Owen I think maybe. Which Owen shows up the last week's or the one I saw against Mitchell. Owen to me on D thier strength is thier secondary those tall receivers become good DB's they've had an int against Mitchell, Polk and Mtn Heritage, thier two TDs against MH came off an int and a long pass. While Mitchell did throw for one TD against them they had much more success running on them, but as said Avery's main thing is the pass. Owen by 7 something like 28-21.
Mtn Heritage by whatever they want. Maybe those Madison freshman if they stick with it will get revenge on everyone in when thier junior or seniors but I give those kids props for not just giving up and quitting.

 

[WNCfbbbfan]

Personally I didn't have a lot hype about Mitchell coming into this year. I wasn't sure what kind of team to expect, while I knew there was good players returning but some good players like the starting RB and the best defensive tackle . Plus you never know what the other teams are going to be like , look how much better Polk is from last year, and I'm expecting a close game. And I personally don't take a lot stock in the Mtn Heritage game as far as how Mitchell will play in other games , the year Mitchell went to the state championship they lost two games , Wallace Rose and Mtn Heritage, that year Mitchell and MH both beat Polk by one point, MH beat Mitchell 41-27, Mitchell the last years just never plays well against MH, it's mental block they can't seem to over come.

It amazes me that MH players never have anything to do with Mitchell losing to MH. It’s always the mental block excuse from you guys. Keep believing that stink if it makes you feel better. Personally, I think it’s the work put in the weight room by our guys that makes the difference.

 

[Rocketman101]

It amazes me that MH players never have anything to do with Mitchell losing to MH. It’s always the mental block excuse from you guys. Keep believing that stink if it makes you feel better. Personally, I think it’s the work put in the weight room by our guys that makes the difference.

Always a excuse lol

 

[Old Mountaineer]

It amazes me that MH players never have anything to do with Mitchell losing to MH. It’s always the mental block excuse from you guys. Keep believing that stink if it makes you feel better. Personally, I think it’s the work put in the weight room by our guys that makes the difference.

Well I'm not knocking Mtn Heritage they have have a really good coach and players. Just saying in that match up if you have a game were talent is equal or or even tilted toward Mitchell, Mitchell will go into that game well I hope we will win and Mtn Heritage is like I wonder what we will win by. And if you have a game were the teams are equally matched and the other team is in the others head that means a lot and Joey is in their head and that's just good coaching. You take as an insult and I mean it as a complement. Winning a game by good coaching and players playing more aggressive is as good as any other reason for winning a game

 

[WNCfbbbfan]

Well I'm not knocking Mtn Heritage they have have a really good coach and players. Just saying in that match up if you have a game were talent is equal or or even tilted toward Mitchell, Mitchell will go into that game well I hope we will win and Mtn Heritage is like I wonder what we will win by. And if you have a game were the teams are equally matched and the other team is in the others head that means a lot and Joey is in their head and that's just good coaching. You take as an insult and I mean it as a complement.

Lol! Who, besides you homers, said the talent was equal or tilted towards Mitchell? MH has beat you 5 times in a row and 12 out of the last 14, if I remember correctly. I’m sorry, but I think I would come up with a new excuse. Maybe you’re not equal every year! 12 out of 14 would make me look a little deeper. That equates to about an 86% win rate. That’s pretty darn good for a team that is in your head. I think if the truth be known the adults in Mitchell County remember the years in the past when Mitchell had the upper hand on Heritage but the youth of Mitchell County only remembers that MH has beaten them 86% of the times they’ve played in the past 14 years and they are used to losing to MH. They don’t know anything different. Your seniors only remember losing to MH. They’ve never beat them. Your juniors have lost to them three years in a row and they probably expect to lose to them again next year with what MH has returning and the a$$ kicking your JV’s took to MH’s JV’s twice this season. That’s REALITY not a mind game!!! It’s kind of like when Owen dominated the conference in the 80’s, 90’s and early 00’s. Most teams didn’t expect to win against Owen back in the day. We’ve been blessed to have a nice little spell but that too will change with time. It always does with smaller schools. We will enjoy while it lasts though and hopefully we won’t live on excuses when it does.

 

[Mitchell county mountie]

I wasnt aware that Mitchell and Mountain Heritage played this week...

 

[Old Mountaineer]

Lol! Who, besides you homers, said the talent was equal or tilted towards Mitchell? MH has beat you 5 times in a row and 12 out of the last 14, if I remember correctly. I’m sorry, but I think I would come up with a new excuse. Maybe you’re not equal every year! 12 out of 14 would make me look a little deeper. That equates to about an 86% win rate. That’s pretty darn good for a team that is in your head. I think if the truth be known the adults in Mitchell County remember the years in the past when Mitchell had the upper hand on Heritage but the youth of Mitchell County only remembers that MH has beaten them 86% of the times they’ve played in the past 14 years and they are used to losing to MH. They don’t know anything different. Your seniors only remember losing to MH. They’ve never beat them. Your juniors have lost to them three years in a row and they probably expect to lose to them again next year with what MH has returning and the a$$ kicking your JV’s took to MH’s JV’s twice this season. That’s REALITY not a mind game!!! It’s kind of like when Owen dominated the conference in the 80’s, 90’s and early 00’s. Most teams didn’t expect to win against Owen back in the day. We’ve been blessed to have a nice little spell but that too will change with time. It always does with smaller schools. We will enjoy while it lasts though and hopefully we won’t live on excuses when it does.

Well whatever. If you read my comment more carefully you'll noticed that I wrote "if" you had a game were they equal or tilted that Joey would still have them better prepared for that game. I could never understand why if a team wins a game because of more talent is one thing but if a team wins a game because its better prepared and coached for a game it's an excuse. Sorry Mountie didn't know it would get into this back and forth, that's the last I say about it.

 

[Toad27]

Our pass d is not bad. When you game plan for a running team you give up the pass to try and stop the run. When you game plan for the pass you let up on the run a bit. I personally believe we are gonna be a terrible matchup for Avery. I think we can go with a 3 man front and still be able to hold down the run then use our linebackers in coverage. Our 3 d linemen will average somewhere around 300 and around 6'2. I feel that MItchell will also be that bad matchup for much the same reason. Last year the qb was running for his life and I expect the same this year. It is a bunch of teenagers so who knows what you will get.

That is what Mountain Heritage did but they did not get any pressure but had 6 interceptions. Polk changed between 3 and 4 man fronts and got a lot pressure but no interceptions (dropped two). Not sure what to expect this Friday. On the games I saw Polk got the most pressure on our QB. All the other games he has had all day.

 

[Heritage 84]

I think Heritage knew they had the athletes to cover the receivers so chose to only rush 3 for much of the game. There are 2 ways to play a passing team and sounds like Polk and Heritage went about it in different ways. Both being successful in the end. I would think Owen will mix it up a little more.

 

[polklife87]

did it ever cross anyone's mind that a quality 2a team has the advantage over a quality 1a team almost every time even if it's a rivalry , heritage 2a against 1a Polk and Mitchell heritage should have the advantage most of the time , but to me that's not much to crow about heritage ,Mitchell time will come and Polk already has the lead on the series we were 2a for a while because of early college numbers but those kids don't play sports we will see how it's gonna play out this year

 

[wormyone42]

did it ever cross anyone's mind that a quality 2a team has the advantage over a quality 1a team almost every time even if it's a rivalry , heritage 2a against 1a Polk and Mitchell heritage should have the advantage most of the time , but to me that's not much to crow about heritage ,Mitchell time will come and Polk already has the lead on the series we were 2a for a while because of early college numbers but those kids don't play sports we will see how it's gonna play out this year

Don't be making you're excuses ahead of time for your future loss to gang green

As for this week's games:
Owen 28 Avery 27
Heritage 54 Madison 0
Mitchell 30 Polk 20

 

[WNCfbbbfan]

Well whatever. If you read my comment more carefully you'll noticed that I wrote "if" you had a game were they equal or tilted that Joey would still have them better prepared for that game. I could never understand why if a team wins a game because of more talent is one thing but if a team wins a game because its better prepared and coached for a game it's an excuse. Sorry Mountie didn't know it would get into this back and forth, that's the last I say about it.

I struggle with how anybody could have watched those two teams play the other night and say that Mitchell was the more talented of the two. If you were to line the teams up side by side at every position I don’t think it would be close based off of how they played against each other the other night. There is no doubt that I think our team was better prepared than yours but I will say this with the upmost respect for your team, as a whole. If you can hold #7 and #10 in check for Mitchell, then Mitchell becomes very beatable. And for the past two years, MH has held them in check compared to their stats against other teams they’ve played during the season. IMHO, I would only replace two of MH’s defensive starters with starters on Mitchell’s D.

 

[WHChoops]

You know if mitchell ties for 2nd place, with all the hype mountaineers came into the season with will be lot unhappy fans.

Jeez dude, youre such a homer. Mitchell in 2nd makes Mitchell the #1 in A split 2/1 a conference. Get over yourself.

 

[WHChoops]

did it ever cross anyone's mind that a quality 2a team has the advantage over a quality 1a team almost every time even if it's a rivalry , heritage 2a against 1a Polk and Mitchell heritage should have the advantage most of the time , but to me that's not much to crow about heritage ,Mitchell time will come and Polk already has the lead on the series we were 2a for a while because of early college numbers but those kids don't play sports we will see how it's gonna play out this year[/QUOTE
That’s exactly what this is. A split 1/2 a conference. And we compete at the 1a, 1aa, and 2a level. We go at each other then we go at everyone else.

 

[Mitchell county mountie]

Safe travels and good luck to all tonight!

 

[hunt&chase]

Here is the projections

Well the computer got the MH score about right but not the other 2 games on scores but got the winner right.